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« on: September 05, 2005, 11:47:13 »
Since the 2nd birthday bash I have been subjected to a really annoying noise coming from the rear of the car.

It sounds like a heat shield (or summat similar) rattling, and happens whenever the rear axle goes over a bump in the road.  However, I have been under the car bashing various bits and pieces, all to no avail.

Anyone got any ideas, apart from coating the whole lot in mud again so nothing rattles under there  :wink:

Any ideas would be most appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2005, 12:09:24 »
Thin disc shield maybe?

Rusted away.

Or maybe one of the rear splash panels under the back of the arches
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2005, 12:14:17 »
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Since the 2nd birthday bash I have been subjected to a really annoying noise coming from the rear of the car.


It wasn't me!!!!  :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2005, 12:46:34 »
Is it your rear diff guard, if you have one?  I had a Southdown one which rattled like a bag of spanners, and eventually fell off, several times.  (I now have a nicely-fitting QT Services one...)
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2005, 12:49:04 »
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Since the 2nd birthday bash I have been subjected to a really annoying noise coming from the rear of the car.

i had an annoying rattle coming from the back of my car
it turned out to be my 3 year old son :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2005, 12:50:00 »
Quote from: "Hightower"
Since the 2nd birthday bash I have been subjected to a really annoying noise coming from the rear of the car.


i had an annoying whine coming from the back of my car
it turned out to be the wife :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2005, 12:56:15 »
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Quote from: "Hightower"
Since the 2nd birthday bash I have been subjected to a really annoying noise coming from the rear of the car.


i had an annoying whine coming from the back of my car
it turned out to be the wife :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Maybe you should let her sit up front :roll:  :wink:

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2005, 12:57:41 »
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and happens whenever the rear axle goes over a bump in the road.

Does it only happen as you go over the bump, or does it carry on for a bit afterwards?

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2005, 13:23:58 »
Baffle come loose in an exhaust box possibly?

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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2005, 13:26:21 »
I just read (somewhere!?) that the mud guard on the diff can come loose and rattle. If I find the web site again I'll post a link as it had a handy picture showing the offending item :roll:

found it ... here's a picture http://www.difflock.com/servicing/tdi-6k-service/Drive-Flange-Mudshield.jpg

It's on this page http://www.difflock.com/servicing/tdi-6k-service/tdi-6k-1.shtml

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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2005, 13:35:25 »
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Thin disc shield maybe?

Both disc shields removed, so can't be them.

Quote from: "thermidorthelobster"
Is it your rear diff guard

No, nice QT one as well, with all the bolts nice and tight.

Quote from: "ChrisW70"
Baffle come loose in an exhaust box possibly

Haven't got a centre box anymore, and the rear one doesn't seem to make any noise when I thump it.

Quote from: "gords"
Does it only happen as you go over the bump, or does it carry on for a bit afterwards

Only as the axle hits the bump.

Thanks for the replies chaps.  Will be out there again this evening checking splash panels as suggested and thumping other bits that may look like they could work their way loose
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2005, 13:47:00 »
Simon,

What about the exhaust downpipe flexi joint - is it rattling and the noise is being transmitted down the pipe towards the back end ??

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2005, 14:13:51 »
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What about the exhaust downpipe flexi joint - is it rattling

Jim, no problem with the downpipe since you sold me the replacement  :wink:
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2005, 16:11:17 »
Have you looked around the body panels to see if they have rusted away somewhere, if you have mud flaps they are swines for attracting rust

Another thought might be the shock absorber outer shields
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2005, 16:25:26 »
shock absorber mount?
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2005, 16:42:50 »
Exhaust coming into contact with the chassis / body ?

The tractor engine ?   :twisted:

Oh, you said back not front... sorry :-)
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2005, 17:57:24 »
Try checking the brake lines etc - they may have moved / bent slightly, enough so that when the axle bangs over a hump, they knock against the casing ...
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2005, 18:46:18 »
Brakes pads try going over some rough ground with the brakes on slightly if this stops the rattle its most likely the pads moving in the caliper.
 
Cause retainer loose or missing, or caliper pistons seized.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2005, 19:43:14 »
check the front shock bottom bushes as they are really common for goin & letting the shock moove n clunk about,also need a 15 ton press to remove them  :evil:
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2005, 06:59:17 »
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check the front shock bottom bushes as they are really common for goin & letting the shock move n clunk about,also need a 15 ton press to remove them  :evil:

I've got this problem on mine.  The 'knocking' is noticeable, but definitely comes from the front axle, so I doubt that this is what's annoying Simon so much ...

Lift kit & new shocks is next on my shopping list, which should fix the knocking permanently!!
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2005, 18:02:01 »
That's a nice motor you have spooky,can't wait to see it lifted and the big tyres you plan on fitting.
What size are you going for by the way?
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2005, 19:41:02 »
Nothing too rediculous, Tony - 265/75-16 MTs ... :wink:
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2005, 21:09:41 »
Well, it's not the exhaust hitting anything,  there doesn't seem to be a mud shield on the rear diff and the brake lines seem okay.
However, I did notice that the bottom of the rear 1/4 panel no the nearside was a little distorted (don't know how that happened  :wink:  ) and when it was knocked it touched a panel behind it.  The offside didn't do this.
Only prob is that I didn't have time to test it out, before I'd finished a rather large JD & coke.  Will report tomorrow.

Oh, and Tim, it's not the engine, 'cos that's new and rattles in a completely different way  :tongue:
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2005, 21:44:07 »
If it's more of a knock than a rattle, it could be the rear A frame ball joint.
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2005, 21:46:34 »
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If it's more of a knock than a rattle, it could be the rear A frame ball joint.


He hasn't got one of them ;-)
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2005, 21:47:23 »
doesnt have a rear a frame,has a watts linkage & replaced all the bushes on 1 before & the bill just for parts was over £200,what about the ARB d bushes
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2005, 21:58:30 »
I knew that.... :oops: ....well it should have, then we wouldn't all be in this mess :?
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2005, 20:05:08 »
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Lift kit & new shocks is next on my shopping list, which should fix the knocking permanently!![/quote


HA....THAT'S WOT I THOUGHT!  :shock:  :(
TIME TO ATTACK THE A-FRAME BUSHES/ BALL JOINT THEN?????? :roll:
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2005, 20:22:12 »
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TIME TO ATTACK THE A-FRAME BUSHES/ BALL JOINT THEN?????? Rolling Eyes

A disco 2 doesnt have an A frame on the rear,it has a watts linkage ala Gp4 Mk2 s'cort & init it contain 2 bearings & 3 alloy/rubber bushes which are a runt to change & a fortune to buy,see my other post ,so far have yet to see one wear the linkages to cause a knocking noise,more likely the ARB D bushes thats causing the knock,took 1 day to find the first set away on a car then 5 min there after
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2005, 20:31:57 »
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TIME TO ATTACK THE A-FRAME BUSHES/ BALL JOINT THEN?????? Rolling Eyes

A disco 2 doesnt have an A frame on the rear.......


I WAS REFERRING TO MY MOTOR,TO WHICH I'VE JUST FITTED SPRINGS AND DAMPERS HOPING THAT IT WOULD STOP THE ANNOYING KNOCK FROM THE ARSE END. :?
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