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« on: July 09, 2005, 18:24:04 »
Thinking of getting a set of jackable side sills for the disco.

I'm finding with the bigger tyres in certain possitions that they can catch on the plastic ones - my rear arches have been trimmed a little to cope but they are not catching on the sills themselves.

Can anyone tell me, if you've bough a set of jackable sills, are they any shorter than the original items, if so how much by and which ones?

TIA

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2005, 18:29:01 »
Take a tape measure around Billing would be my advice.

Also, have a chat to Richard @ Mill Services... he has Discovery sills in production now... if you wanted a set an inch or so shorter, I'm sure he'd oblige.   He's a couple of stands along from us by the river.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2005, 18:53:47 »
Rebel 4x4 will make them to order too.
Give them the dimensions and they'll knock you up a pair
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2005, 19:03:34 »
I think it was Rebel I tried to email but never got a reply - will try them again as they were quite cheap.

Some of the ones I've seen had a plate that covered the original sill - any ideas if rebels ones do this?  At £178 they aren't too bad either :-)

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2005, 19:04:41 »
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Take a tape measure around Billing would be my advice.
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I forgot about billing - hmm best not go as 've not much money left at the moment :-(

Talking of buying stuff.. oh I'll post you a pm..

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2005, 19:07:30 »
I take it your not coming to Billing then Matt?
Shame
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2005, 19:16:20 »
I wouldn't mind goingand may well do, but perhaps leave the wallet at home, saying that I don't think apart from side sills that there is anything I need so probably wont spend anyu money.

Saying that I could do with some extended brake pipes, but I've ben toying with a few ideas

1) disattach the brakets then weld them 1" at each side closer to each other bending the exisiting copper pipes to match

2) making up a copper extension piece (it seems to only need a standard male and female with a short section of pipe)

3) buy new pipes

4) totally modify the brakes so that the front pipes run back along the body then back up the radius arms (with an appropraite flexible section in between)

and my thoughts on those are:-

1) is easy and bodge and I wont need to bleed the brakes... however I'll probably snap a pipe when rebending as the two callipers I've taken off so far have done exactly that.

2) can't think of any reason not to try this - will have to bleed the brakes

3) will have to bleed the brakes

4) as 3

I hate bleeding brakes by the way!

Matthew

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2005, 19:25:22 »
I had my side bar made to measure by W&H Wheelcarriers, who will be a Billing, I gave them the length I wanted and they adjusted the bars to suit. I got the ones with the tree bars instead of the jackable ones, acts as a side step if nothing else!!  :wink:
They a galvi'ed and sprayed over the top with galvi' fittings.  :D

This is the only photo I have to hand of them, it's not very good but you can just about see them.   :?  

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2005, 19:55:07 »
ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?

Matthew

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2005, 20:06:14 »
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Some of the ones I've seen had a plate that covered the original sill - any ideas if rebels ones do this?  At £178 they aren't too bad either :-)


I must admit, I've not seen the Mill Services ones first hand yet, so I'm not sure how they attach.  I do know they are £158 inc delivery.... so they are cheaper even than the Rebels ones...  good quality too.

There you go... I just saved you the cost of your entry ticket to Billing...  no reason not to come now  8)
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2005, 20:07:03 »
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?

Matthew


They look like the Devon 4x4 arches to me.
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2005, 20:09:25 »
have just emailed them.. sounds like a small company that make their own, I therefore hope that means he takes more pride than your average service drone and we'll get good quality and service - will call on monday if no reply :-)

I thought it was free to walk into billing....  Last year I parked in the pub :-) The snorkel and high lift jack was a bit heavy carrying it though!

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2005, 20:09:51 »
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?

Matthew


They look like the Devon 4x4 arches to me.


The expensive ones then :-(

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2005, 20:18:58 »
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?

Matthew


They look like the Devon 4x4 arches to me.


The expensive ones then :-(


Thats the ones
I want them too
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2005, 20:22:43 »
I'd like some, however being expensive and made of GRP (i.e. glass fibre) I'd be too worried about breaking them).. Whilst glass fibre is pretty strong if it gets a whack in the right place it tends to badly craze then crack - my kit car is a GRP monocoque with the only steel in the side sills!

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2005, 21:25:23 »
Yep, they're the Rangie Spares arches from Oz that Devon 4x4 sell.  :D
Nope, they weren't cheep!  :(  (Budgie joke there, sorry!)

Not had any problems with them cracking, mind you, we don't have many trees on the island so that could be a factor!!  :-k

Still if they stand up to the Outback & Rain Forest Challenges then they're good enough for me.  :wink:

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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2005, 21:32:30 »
Oh, I found another photo of the bars, that I did for Mace I think, with the dimentions on. :wink:

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2005, 23:42:12 »
sweet photo budgie, looks nice.
 I have broken a devon arch, replacement cost 50 quid from devon! :cry:  trying to avoid hitting anything else.
The ones from paddock are cheap(sills) but you may have to shorten them by quite a bit- so if you are reasonable with the old welder you could save some brass.....i think they are about 100 quid.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2005, 13:45:23 »
I'm after a new set for my 300 tdi too. The last set I bought didn't fit and I wasn't too pleased. So far I've only found Scorpion or WH as an alternative source for Tree-Bar clad sliders. Anyone else got any ideas?
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2005, 14:04:59 »
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Anyone else got any ideas?

Discoparts? http://www.discoparts.com/Products/Protection/Rock_Sliders/rock_sliders.html
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2005, 15:45:16 »
Simon, errr see my post above !
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2005, 15:52:30 »
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Simon, errr see my post above !

What, this post?
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I'm after a new set for my 300 tdi too. The last set I bought didn't fit and I wasn't too pleased. So far I've only found Scorpion or WH as an alternative source for Tree-Bar clad sliders. Anyone else got any ideas?

Am I to assume then that the ones that didn't fit were Discoparts?  If so, then maybe not those  :wink:   Although my ones from there are very good.
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2005, 16:08:08 »
I ordered them 3 weeks prior to WWW, fingers crossed my refund will be in the post today. :evil:  I just can't bring myself to pay £375 from Scorpion.  :twisted:
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2005, 20:16:31 »
Well on the recommendation of muddyweb I've spoken to Mill services.. He has standard and 2" shorter off the shelf as it were... I'm getting a set of galvanised with tree sliders for £195.. He'll powder coat them if you prefer also.. However I wanted mine for billing so I'm just going to have the galvanised 2" shorter ones then I'l paint them myself.

I'll let you all know what they are like on sunday or early next week

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2005, 20:28:40 »
just buy a set of jackable sidesills

put them on and mark the amount to be removed

then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends

thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2005, 20:33:48 »
If Rebel 4x4 dont have the side steps i ordered (a month ago, still no response from e-mail) at Billing then i will be making my own.
If this happens i'll stick it in thread that i'll be starting soon after Billing.
 :D
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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2005, 20:48:01 »
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just buy a set of jackable sidesills

put them on and mark the amount to be removed

then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends

thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell

The one's I got from W&H were the same price as the normal size. They just cut it to the length I asked for, before welding the tree bars on. They are also Galvi'ed and coated, though not as cheap as £195!!  :wink:

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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2005, 20:50:36 »
Ps
Cheers budgie for the dimensions of your sills you sent me
We'll see if Rebel come through!
 :?
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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2005, 21:02:00 »
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Quote from: "chuggaman"
just buy a set of jackable sidesills

put them on and mark the amount to be removed

then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends

thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell

The one's I got from W&H were the same price as the normal size. They just cut it to the length I asked for, before welding the tree bars on. They are also Galvi'ed and coated, though not as cheap as £195!!  :wink:


nothing is cheap mate

thats why ive started to get things made

like a custom built small ground anchor

and rear wing protection

also your vehicle develops to your taste and your own personal needs

yours by the way is looking very good

have you fitted those rear twin shocks yet ????

i will be doing that too as soon as my bits arrive
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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2005, 21:33:00 »
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Ps
Cheers budgie for the dimensions of your sills you sent me
We'll see if Rebel come through!
 :?
Ah, so twas yourself, sorry Jake forgot who I sent them too!  :roll:

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yours by the way is looking very good

have you fitted those rear twin shocks yet ????

i will be doing that too as soon as my bits arrive

No, Still not got round to it yet. Too much else to get done, CV joints, rear prop, Rangie brakes etc etc.........
I'll get round to it soon, still got to get a pair of +2" ES9000's before I fit the mountings!  :wink:

 






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