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Title: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Gromitt on April 24, 2010, 11:47:05
Do these actually work and has anyone on here recieved a fine generated by one ?

I was driving about a month ago in a motorway 50 zone and because I was having a barny with the missus I passed 2 cameras doing about 65mph. Over a month has passed and still no fine notification so it seems I have got away with it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm guilty as charged but it looks as if I have beaten the system.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: V8MoneyPit on April 24, 2010, 12:59:46
Maybe we all have these cameras wrong and they do exercise judgement rather than just handing out inflexible fines..... they saw you getting an earbashing and took pity  :lol:
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Mutz on April 25, 2010, 11:11:55
Yes they do work!!!

And i got a fine, posted out to me; 36 in a 30.

Then was given option pay £60 fine or £70 for "speed awareness" course, with no points on licence ;).

I think you would have heard by now if they was going to send you a fine, i believe they let you know in 2 weeks.

Must admit, thought easy way out of points on licence, but it is very informative and i have been very aware of my speed ever since course; everyone should take this course.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: zebidee on April 25, 2010, 11:40:40
Must admit, thought easy way out of points on licence, but it is very informative and i have been very aware of my speed ever since course; everyone should take this course.

I've always said the training & testing for getting a license should be stricter - people who haven't been affected by an accident caused by speed always think it's a victimless offence.

Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: muddyjames on April 25, 2010, 11:48:33
you can normally tell if they are turned on or not by looking for the red laser beam as you pass underneath and look into the camera. Well, the ones I pass through on a tuesday have the red light on sometimes and not others and they aren't in road works either.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: kizz81 on April 25, 2010, 19:45:09
i dont think the m1 cams are on, not that i speed, but on the odd occasion i go down th m1 following a friend who goes at warp speed i know for a fact he was over 60 /70 in the cam zone and he  got nothing but then its almost finnsihed now so perhaps theyve turned them off ready to turn on the new ones on the gang ways  :huh:
in an old landy you should be awarded a medal for speeding and not a fine  :lol:
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Sider on April 25, 2010, 20:29:26
Those 65 mph were speedo mph or real mph?

With those tyres and the speedo a wee bit off, you could well have been traveling at about 54-55 and your speedo say 65.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Saffy on April 26, 2010, 07:09:27
Yes they do work!!!

And i got a fine, posted out to me; 36 in a 30.

Then was given option pay £60 fine or £70 for "speed awareness" course, with no points on licence ;).

I think you would have heard by now if they was going to send you a fine, i believe they let you know in 2 weeks.

Must admit, thought easy way out of points on licence, but it is very informative and i have been very aware of my speed ever since course; everyone should take this course.
Don't seem to be able to get the option of doing the speed awareness course if caught speeding over 10mph beyond limit.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: dxmedia on April 26, 2010, 09:12:28
I've been on the course.

I wish I took the points.

I've never had to listed to soooo much rubbish in an afternoon as what was coming out of the instructors mouth as on that course!  He tried to redefine simple physics a few times!  That car which locks up on the front wheels before it hits the kid?  That video which used to be on TV?  No one there questioned why it locked up the front with the rear not...  lots of miss information like that.


Speed had NEVER killed anyone.   Stopping has though ;)
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Gromitt on April 26, 2010, 17:50:44
Those 65 mph were speedo mph or real mph?

With those tyres and the speedo a wee bit off, you could well have been traveling at about 54-55 and your speedo say 65.

Just an idea.

I was in my Focus not the Suzuki.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Mutz on April 26, 2010, 19:31:53
I've been on the course.

I wish I took the points.

I've never had to listed to soooo much rubbish in an afternoon as what was coming out of the instructors mouth as on that course!  He tried to redefine simple physics a few times!  That car which locks up on the front wheels before it hits the kid?  That video which used to be on TV?  No one there questioned why it locked up the front with the rear not...  lots of miss information like that.


Speed had NEVER killed anyone.   Stopping has though ;)

Must be different styles from instructors on the course, ours used it as an example where ABS would have been useful, to be able to steer round the child!! Not the fact the car was speeding in the first place!!
Also they try to make you aware of the speed you are actually doing; as "We" are not always aware of it.

So I say again; " everyone should go on this course"

And hats off to the Norfolk instuctors they made it a very pleasurable 4Hrs.
And I for 1 am quite aware of the speeds i am doing now, thanks to the course.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Drift on April 26, 2010, 19:35:28
Speed does kill and it doesnt matter what speed your doing when the unexpected happens.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: dxmedia on April 26, 2010, 20:34:35
Speed does kill and it doesnt matter what speed your doing when the unexpected happens.


lol, you missed the point. Speed NEVER kills. Stopping does.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: les baty on April 26, 2010, 20:51:14
as in its not the fall that hurts, its the landing, ha ha!
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Drift on April 26, 2010, 21:00:45
Speed does kill and it doesnt matter what speed your doing when the unexpected happens.


lol, you missed the point. Speed NEVER kills. Stopping does.



Depends on the incident.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: dxmedia on April 26, 2010, 21:37:59
nope, never. Go as fast as you want anywhere you want in anything you want. You'll never get hurt doing it.

Stopping you want to be more careful with though.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Saffy on April 26, 2010, 21:44:47
nope, never. Go as fast as you want anywhere you want in anything you want. You'll never get hurt doing it.

Stopping you want to be more careful with though.

fatal heart attack from the excitement ?
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Drift on April 26, 2010, 21:57:36
Pedestrian running out on you  :roll:
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: dxmedia on April 26, 2010, 22:05:22
Pedestrian running out on you  :roll:

And it's their abrupt halt which causes the problems.  Speed has never killed anyone (I'm sure that there's probably some really obscure cases where it has).


Stopping is the killer.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Drift on April 26, 2010, 22:12:29
I dont think you understand when a pedestrian runs out they are going one direction a vehicle hitting them changes that direction(being pedantic you may claim they instantaneously stop for a micro second before changing direction, but thats splitting hairs and is subject to variables) , an inquest is an eye opener ;)
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: dxmedia on April 26, 2010, 22:32:55
I dont think you understand when a pedestrian runs out they are going one direction a vehicle hitting them changes that direction(being pedantic you may claim they instantaneously stop for a micro second before changing direction, but thats splitting hairs and is subject to variables) , an inquest is an eye opener ;)


As I said above, your missing the point ;)


Stopping is a killer. Going from 100 - 0 in 0.00000000000005th of a second might cause a few problems with regards to where your face used to be and where it is now.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: Drift on April 26, 2010, 22:37:16
(being pedantic you may claim they instantaneously stop for a micro second before changing direction, but thats splitting hairs and is subject to variables)

Seems I was correct, Ive no wish to proceed and I fear this has veered off topic enough.
Title: Re: Average speed cameras ?
Post by: MuddyMike on April 27, 2010, 11:09:32
Yes they do work!!!

And i got a fine, posted out to me; 36 in a 30.

Then was given option pay £60 fine or £70 for "speed awareness" course, with no points on licence ;).

I think you would have heard by now if they was going to send you a fine, i believe they let you know in 2 weeks.

Must admit, thought easy way out of points on licence, but it is very informative and i have been very aware of my speed ever since course; everyone should take this course.

I was stopped for doing 42  in a 30 through a local village a couple of years ago. I claimed I was distracted by the vintage Rolls Royce I was following which made the bobby laugh (he stopped the Rolls as well). We were both given a choice of a fine and points or an "on the spot" speed awareness  presentation. I considered this for a nanosecond before opting for the presentation which included a braking reaction time test given in a tent at the side of the road.

Mike
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