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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: BigA on November 14, 2009, 14:44:50

Title: No steering (what now)
Post by: BigA on November 14, 2009, 14:44:50

i was driving along this morning, luckily not far from home as i was only warming the gearbox up fro an oil change, and all of a sudden, with no warning, the steering became almost impossible to turn.

I have undo the bleed screw on the steering box, and oil coming out, with no air, so i presume the pump is ok, i jacked up the front, and the wheels are very difficult to turn (steering wise). I cant find anything looking odd, so is this my steering box?

i have a spare box in the garage, but before i swap it over, i thought i would check with you wise people to see if it may be anything else?

Cheers

Andy

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: bogie on November 14, 2009, 15:12:05

Disconnect the steering arms from the swivels and turn the wheels by hand,could be a swivel ceased?

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: crazymac on November 14, 2009, 15:12:47

Has the belt that runs the PUMP snapped?

It sounds to me that there is no hydraulic fluid being pumped so I would suggest the belt has snapped?

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: Bobtail on November 14, 2009, 16:19:41

Also check the steering damper

That may be u/s

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: BigA on November 14, 2009, 17:59:06

I checked the damper, took it off and still stiff.

First thing i checked was the belt, and all OK.

Swivel, never thought of that, and hope its not  :(

Hopefully better weather tomorrow so i can get under and get to the bottom of it.

cheers so far.

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: Little-Green-Machine on November 14, 2009, 18:20:36

It may be the pump, i have seen the insides just suddenly break and kill the hydraulic side of the the steering, the pump doesnt look any different untill you take it apart :oops:

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 15, 2009, 01:21:22

Witht he wheels off the floor you should be able to move the steering without the PAS, so drop a balljoint off and try it by hand.

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: BigA on November 15, 2009, 13:34:41

Looks like it may be the pump.

Jacked it up and checked everything today, all looks ok and steering turns fine, even with ignition off. Changed Steering box anyway just to be sure, and still the same after. Also when i tried to bleed the replacement box, no fluid came out of the bleed nipple (bloody did on old box).

So looks like a new pump needed.  :(

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: beast5680 on November 15, 2009, 13:47:04

I had a steering pump shear the shaft inside the pump, everything looks normal from the outside but the pump is not driving internally

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: BigA on November 18, 2009, 16:25:55

Quote from: Little-Green-Machine on November 14, 2009, 18:20:36

It may be the pump, i have seen the insides just suddenly break and kill the hydraulic side of the the steering, the pump doesnt look any different untill you take it apart :oops:

it was the same here, shaft had sheared apart when i took the old one to bits.

Cheers all.

Title: Re: No steering (what now)
Post by: Little-Green-Machine on November 18, 2009, 19:46:57

good you got it sorted :thumbup: