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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Brian the Sn@il on September 11, 2009, 17:39:56
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I have Two Sankey trailers, ones a Cooks outfit and the other is a Racal.
The cooks one has been modified to fit a normal 50mm ball, whicle the racal one has the NATO ring.
If i put a HATO hitch on the back of the Sankey cooks trailer, could i add the racal traler and tow that as well ?
Has anyone done this and not been pulled over for questions ?
Il post up pics of the modified Cooks trailer after the weekend, its been a 1 weeks project, and will be cooking burgers for family and friends this weekend at Sandringham.
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I don't know about the legal side of it, but reversing would be interesting!
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Its quite common in South Africa to tow two trailers but for some reason i think its illigal in the UK.
wizard
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but what about in WALES? :-.
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Its quite common in South Africa to tow two trailers but for some reason i think its illegal in the UK.
wizard
So how do the fairground people get round towing two trailers or sometimes three
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So how do the fairground people get round towing two trailers or sometimes three
Dunno about that but try and take a caravan and a trailer down the motorway and see if the Dibble pull you over.
I dont recall ever seeing fairground folk towing more than one trailer even in Wales where they are a lot more open minded than other places !!
If it was legal dont you think it would be common place to see something along the lines of Australian road trains....
wizard :twisted:
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It isnt illegal as far as i know, regularly tow 2 14t beet trailers behiend my tractor, never had a problem.
Even towed 2 ifor livestock trailers behiend the 90.
Reversing is easy with twin trailers, you just have to think about it a bit more than reversing with a single trailer, it is just practice lol
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I have searched the net and havent found much info
You can tow more than one trailer with a tractor upto a total weight of 24 tonnes, the only other info i found was dated 2007
Towing more than one trailer used to the only requirement in Uk regulations that stated the vehicle must be LHD.If the towing vehicle had only a driver,it had to be LHD.If RHD it had to have an observer as well-this was presumably to avoid pedestrians being caught up by one of the latter trailers.You still see fairs/circuses towing these trailers
wizard
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It's the same in effect as towing a 4 wheel trailer with a bogey front axle isn't it?
Both trailers would need to have operational brakes due to the weight of 2 sankeys being over 750 (or bloody close too)
You might need long vehicle signs, but a call to the dvla or vosa is probably worth it.
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i think you will find that you can only pull more than one trailer under showmans rules.
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Well, im not a showman and have never been stopped for it.
Been past plenty of police men with two trailers behiend the 90.
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Can also be done on an Agriculural Licence, ie, with a tractor.
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How difficult would it be to make a couple of sockets under eash trailer front and back and slide some 50x50 box and pin it in place. Take off the front wheels and have a rod which operates the rear trailers brakes. Would be ugly as sin, but technically it would only be 1 trailer.
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Well, im still not sure, Both the Sankey trailers are braked, total length would not be any longer than a large car transporter.
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So how do the fairground people get round towing two trailers or sometimes three
Dunno about that but try and take a caravan and a trailer down the motorway and see if the Dibble pull you over.
I dont recall ever seeing fairground folk towing more than one trailer even in Wales where they are a lot more open minded than other places !!
If it was legal dont you think it would be common place to see something along the lines of Australian road trains....
wizard :twisted:
they have diffrent rights cos there are examped and can tow more they ,dont run on tockos eather
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ido that you cant tow two tralers from the back off your land rover you will get nicked as we wernt aloud in the army and thats where i got tort to pull a trailer[sankkey] and my hgv1
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if i rember right the tow jour on back off them was for recovey when off road :-k cos i know that you can tow a land rover 110 if its got stuck and you got the swanky on you dont need to unhich to pull it out but you cant do it on road , outher time we towed in tamdom [2 swankys] was to shunt around yard and thats fun :-# :-#
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Sankeys, like many military trailers are set up to allow tandem towing. However, this is only done in a tactical situation (i.e. the plod have all run away!) where the only guys in uniforms different from Tommy Squaddie are the bad guys!
Don't think it's legeal on the public highway. If it was legel, you'd see far more caravan users who's car has died, towed behind a bog standard recovery vehicle. Instead... the car is on a flatbed towing the caravan.
Skibum
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heres a pic of the Sankey
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8324_150600951672_670426672_3077089_7981811_n.jpg)
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs216.snc1/8324_150590636672_670426672_3076657_5818386_n.jpg)
Shows the end BBq conversion :lol: and the front end Drop nose conversion.
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Right, that does it.... you are now officially head chef at all of next years Norfolk meets :lol:
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I would say it is illegal except if you have a showmans license like a circus, or a farmer on an agrcultural license or a recovery driver recovering an artic lorry.
I dont think you can come under any of these unless you class selling burgers as showmans? Ya never know! :lol: ;)
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Looks like youll have to buy a twin wheel trailer and put both sankey's on that :-k
Or get the Misses a 4x4 and go in convoy :clap:
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Right, that does it.... you are now officially head chef at all of next years Norfolk meets :lol:
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If i can make it i will !! im allready been booked for the norfolk military group for bacon rolls at their meets in 2010 !
I just cant believe how well these sankeys tow !
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definitely illegal to tow more than one trailer on the public road unless you are a showman.
even if you have driven passed police cars/police persons and not been stopped it doesn't make it legal!
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by rights farmers are only meant to tow multiple trailers if both are empty or one is an implement and the other is not.
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hi mate trailer looks great, if showmen can do it why cant anyone else they dont have special privleges, they a normal working person,
i just been to look at a sankey trailer and it has a nato hitch on the back of it so i recon you could tow behind another trailer
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I met a bloke at a sodbury sortout that was towing two sankeys full of bits and he told me you can pull two trailers at the same time as long as you dont exceed 30mph. Not 100% sure of the legalities but MOD definately tow two at a time in vehicle depots because i have done it myself at Ashchurch.
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Can tow 20 at a time if you want to in a depot. It's private land.
<love to see someone reverse them thought ;) >
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Thanks for that, genius. :-k
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It really isnt hard to reverse two trailers together, i do it all the time at the farm :dance:
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Right, that does it.... you are now officially head chef at all of next years Norfolk meets :lol:
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If i can make it i will !! im allready been booked for the norfolk military group for bacon rolls at their meets in 2010 !
I just cant believe how well these sankeys tow !
There suprisingly stable and easy to tow offroad too! will pretty much go anywhere your 4x4 will (but not so well on it's own).
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still illegal to tow on the road as more than one, unless as previously said, you are either a showman or have an agricultural licence.
you can reverse up to 6 together, anymore than that and it starts getting difficult!
the onlt way i, as a recovery driver, can recover more than one vehicle is if i put one on the front and one on the back. technically my wrecker is classed as a train in that situation... :roll:
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Its quite common in South Africa to tow two trailers but for some reason i think its illegal in the UK.
wizard
So how do the fairground people get round towing two trailers or sometimes three
Its called Showmans haulage, they have a special exemption to several things, towing weights off road access, towing multipul trailers, and road tax is buttons for them as they have there own class that fits in to Special vehicles
Quote from DVLA
Special Vehicles Mobile crane, mobile pump, digging machine, works truck, road roller, showman’s HGV, showman’s haulage, special trailer (for showman’s rigid goods vehicles over 12,000kg pulling laden trailers over 4,000kg).
Road tax is £165 for the following
Special vehicles
Tax Class 14 (weighing over 3,500kg)
Showman's goods,
showman's haulage,
works trucks, digging machines,
road rollers, mobile cranes and pumps
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I cant find the two trailer bit but its to allow living wagons ( caravans to us) to be towed behind an artic or as originally done with a Ballast tractor, towing a draw bar trailer towing a living wagon, ore some loads would not fit on one trailer Dogems are often on two trailers.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Atkinson_Ballast_Tractor_-_fairground_livery_lookalike.jpg/180px-Atkinson_Ballast_Tractor_-_fairground_livery_lookalike.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballast_tractor&usg=__jMcZmN_lrasNMZMPIS8l1WaZ420=&h=120&w=180&sz=8&hl=en&start=46&um=1&tbnid=nCnIJf9WAWWrPM:&tbnh=67&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dscammell%2Btowing%2Bfair%2Bride%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-gb:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7GGLL_en%26sa%3DN%26start%3D40%26um%3D1
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It is illegal to tow 2 trailers unless you are a showman, farmer or member of HM armed forces. They are exempt under various acts and both tractors and amry vehicles are subject to different speed restrictions.
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It is illegal to tow 2 trailers unless you are a showman, farmer or member of HM armed forces. They are exempt under various acts and both tractors and amry vehicles are subject to different speed restrictions.
Well thats summed it up :) many thanf RRB :)
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im pretty sure i said that before apart from the fact the military are not exempt as we do not have crown exemption anymore. we still have to abide by the same rules as everyone else on the road.
in a depot is a totally different matter.
on the back of the trailer it should have a sticker that says for 'depot use only' and something along the lines of no more than two at a time. cannot remember exactly.