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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: TEMPER593 on September 19, 2008, 08:40:42

Title: Engine upgrade.
Post by: TEMPER593 on September 19, 2008, 08:40:42: Hi everyone.

Now then got a question for you all.

Im thinking of geting a 300tdi engine block and rebuilding it from scratch.
I want to fit new pistons,uprated cam, bigger turbo,big intercooler,head,manifold the lot then get it all tuned up.
Its all going to get changed for heavy duty stuff or performance parts cos i want as much grunt as possable.
Would it all be worth it?
Your thoughts and ideas on this would be greatfully received.

Thanks for your time.
Temp
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: ChrisW70 on September 19, 2008, 12:34:10: Rebuild would be worth it for peace of mind, don't think you can get an uprated camshaft tho.
Only real performance upgrades you can do on a 300Tdi are bigger intercooler, uprated turbo and tweak the injection pump to suit.
There is some talk about modifying the waste gate but I think this applies more to 200's rather than 300's although after the bigger intercooler and uprated turbo it would be advisable to fit a boost guage to check you are getting maximum boost at the intake plenum.

If you're going to all that expense what about considering an International 2.8Tdi (the next generation of 300).
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: Eeyore on September 19, 2008, 12:39:12: There's all kinds of porting can be done, plus water cooled or hybrid turbos, however the most you'll get is about 165-170hp before seriously life-compromising the engine.
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: TEMPER593 on September 19, 2008, 15:09:36: Thanks alot.

Chris any idea the work involved in fittin the 2.8 how much and where from???

Thanks very much.
TEMP
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: ChrisW70 on September 19, 2008, 16:28:52: As far as I know there's only one UK agent for the engines - MD Engineering near Sleaford.
Website is here http://www.mdengineering.co.uk/
It's not cheap tho :shock:
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: TEMPER593 on September 20, 2008, 10:02:37: Â£4345+VAT :'(

Now where did i put that bank robbers outfit...................................... :twisted:
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 20, 2008, 10:03:39: Quote from: Eeyore on September 19, 2008, 12:39:12
There's all kinds of porting can be done, plus water cooled or hybrid turbos, however the most you'll get is about 165-170hp before seriously life-compromising the engine.

170+ can be achieved quite easily from a 300 without to much work, certinally keeping the standard turbo & running standard boost,

or fit an LS1 :lol:
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: TEMPER593 on September 20, 2008, 17:01:09: And how would u go about that? :)
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: Sharpshooter on September 20, 2008, 17:37:10: Ive got a 200Tdi with full width Alisport intercooler and turbo tweaked. I havnt played with the fuel but im more than happy with mine. Very grunty and better fuel economy too. :)
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: MudPlugger on September 21, 2008, 21:42:17: Sorry to hijack the thread but isn't there a way to up the boost on a 200TDI as well?

Would like to know as I'd like a little bit more power!
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 22, 2008, 12:46:15: Quote from: TEMPER593 on September 20, 2008, 17:01:09
And how would u go about that? :)

uprated injection pump with matched injectors,
gas flowed & ported head
FMIC
FUll big bore exhaust & a proper set up
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: TEMPER593 on September 22, 2008, 15:07:36: Does gettin rid of the mid box and cat do much for power gains?
Title: Re: Engine upgrade.
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 23, 2008, 18:11:17: Quote from: TEMPER593 on September 22, 2008, 15:07:36
Does gettin rid of the mid box and cat do much for power gains?

not really, it does help the turbo spool up a bit quicker & more responsive but doesnt make much odds to the overal figures