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Vehicle & Technical => Not Anything Listed Above.... => Topic started by: Nige on February 21, 2005, 19:16:25

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: Nige on February 21, 2005, 19:16:25

Due to the size of my baby - 3 tonnes empty it says - I need a beefy winch. Thinking hydraulic. BUT I understand most are powered by the power assisted steering box.

Mine's manual...Any suggestions how to power a hydraulic winch up without the additional expense of fitting power steering?

Reckon I need a 10000kg winch - i.e. 3 times weight or am I being too over the top? (Don't remind me of the cost!!!)

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 21, 2005, 19:28:45

They only run of the PAS pump to save the cost of another pump, and the downside is that if you turn the steering the winch might stop!  Fit a S/H self-contained PAS pump from a scrapper, look at a Big Granada or early Transit for one with the reservoir on the pump itself.
Alternatively you need a PTO point and an adapter kit.

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: muddyweb on February 21, 2005, 19:48:18

a) Get a power steering pump from a car and power it with a big motor
b) Get a taillift pump off something like a transit Luton (12v)

You'll need to check flow rates / pressure to see how it will run of course

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: Nige on February 21, 2005, 19:56:48

Great. Thanks guys - off to a scrappie later this week

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: karloss on February 21, 2005, 20:20:33

Small tippers are a good source too, loads of scrap builders transits about.

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: winchman on March 31, 2005, 22:06:16

I dont think a power steering pump will supply enough flow or pressure or hold enough oil to power a 10 tonne winch, you need a dedicated PTO or gear box driven pump.
Hydraulics are the best for regular use but aint cheap the last one I was involved in was 4 tonne on a Ford Explorer and met all relivent legislation and safety law cost £6000 fitted.

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: winchman on March 31, 2005, 22:07:59

I almost forgot. Ask your insurance company about connecting in to the existing power steering pump, you wont like the answer.

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: jalopy joe on April 01, 2005, 10:33:02

And dont skimp on the hoses and fittings, jubilee clips wont work here.  I know that sounds obvious but we`ve had stuff back under warranty where people have tried to replace the hoses with heater hose and jubilee clips :!:

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: Nige on April 01, 2005, 21:03:46

Thanks Guys

Phew...and there's me thinking it was easy!

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: trustyrusty on April 08, 2005, 21:21:57

what's it for ? if landy 90/ 100 i've got a pto  :D

Title: Hydraulic winch - with no hydraulics?
Post by: davidlandy on April 08, 2005, 21:45:58

get a pas pump off of a citroen saxo - i think that they are electric so u cant mount it anywhere.