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Title: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: henryandlesley on July 14, 2008, 18:05:27
 hi all do everyone know what the proper speed limits are for car and hgv's so here goes

Motorway  is it 70 mph or 80 mph for cars

Motorway is it 70 mph or 60 mph for lorries

duel carrigeways 70 mph or 60 mph for cars

duel carrige ways 60 mph or 50 mph for lorries

single roads  is it 70 mph or 60 mph for cars

single carrige ways 60 mph or 40 mph for lorries.

I will pm you with the correct answer to each one if you cant get it right these are the correct speed limits for the uk but why do people get in their cars and think it dont apply to them I personally think if you are caught them a max fine of £1000 and banned for 12 mths then if you want to break the law then you should pay the price if you get caught
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Wireless on July 14, 2008, 18:28:21
Motorway 70mph for cars, LGV's 60mph, but are speed limited to 56mph anyway
Dual Carriage-ways 70mph for cars, LGV's 50mph
Single Carriage-ways 60mph for cars, LGV's 40mph

Ok, this is a difficult one, what are the speed limits on the same type of roads for non-emergency journeys made by an Ambulance?  I'm not referring to Service Operational Instructions, just the Law.

Anyone?
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: strapping young lad on July 14, 2008, 18:32:51
rule 124

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070304
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: gtomo2 on July 14, 2008, 18:40:16
iirc duel carrigeways 70 mph or 60 mph for cars. Most duel carrigewys are 60mph but some with hard shoulder and centre barriers are 70mph. so both could apply.
Just to add to the quiz if you don't mind.
Have a think and tell me what is the "fast lane" on a motorway ?
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: MudRat on July 14, 2008, 18:46:47
iirc duel carrigeways 70 mph or 60 mph for cars. Most duel carrigewys are 60mph but some with hard shoulder and centre barriers are 70mph. so both could apply.
Just to add to the quiz if you don't mind.
Have a think and tell me what is the "fast lane" on a motorway ?

There isnt one!

Heres one for you, which road sign has 3 EQUAL length arrows all going in the same direction, and nothing else on the sign??  ;)
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: 666 on July 14, 2008, 18:52:35
iirc duel carrigeways 70 mph or 60 mph for cars. Most duel carrigewys are 60mph but some with hard shoulder and centre barriers are 70mph. so both could apply.
Just to add to the quiz if you don't mind.
Have a think and tell me what is the "fast lane" on a motorway ?

There isnt one!

Heres one for you, which road sign has 3 EQUAL length arrows all going in the same direction, and nothing else on the sign??  ;)

Would that be the traffic island sign ;)

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Disco Matt on July 14, 2008, 19:42:33
Isn't that the chevron sign used to warn of a sharp bend? Arrows are all pointing in the direction of the bend.
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Discopoo on July 14, 2008, 19:47:46
All hgv's are limited to 40 on single carrigeways and 56 on motorways and dual carrigeways where natinal speed limit applies, coaches are resricted to 60 on single carrige and 63 in all other circumstances.
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Yoshi on July 14, 2008, 21:13:35
Would be nice to see a coach only doing 63!!

And graeme is correct, dual carriageway is 70mph only if there is a central barrier.
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: beast5680 on July 14, 2008, 21:39:28
(http://www.theopenroad.co.uk/images/UK%20Speed%20Limits.jpg)
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: freelanderpx54 on July 14, 2008, 22:17:56
Is the use of Duel instead of dual a freudian slip?

Driving these days seems to be a bit like a duelling match :)
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Eeyore on July 15, 2008, 08:41:07

they have missed out that all post 2003 7.5 trucks have been limited down to 56 mph and should not use the 3rd lane of the motorway

.....and the all important words - 'unless signed otherwise or conditions dictate'.  ;)
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Wireless on July 15, 2008, 14:20:59
...and so far nobody has answered the Ambulance question.
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Mr Bump on July 15, 2008, 15:12:32
(http://www.theopenroad.co.uk/images/UK%20Speed%20Limits.jpg)


eeeek

bottom of the poster:

"if articulated or towing the maximum speed limit is 80mph"


 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: SEDDEY on July 15, 2008, 15:40:51
...and so far nobody has answered the Ambulance question.


Isn't it whatever speed the road is.

3rd lane, I was told recently on a feild trip from school that mini buses can't use it. Is that try for all buses?
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Mr Bump on July 15, 2008, 16:03:32
From the link
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070304

Cars & motorcycles
(including car-derived vans up to 2 tonnes maximum laden weight)

Are allowed to do 60 single lane and 70 dual carriage-ways but what about Solihulls finest creations?  My 110 has a MGW of 3500 kgs (with HD springs) am I only allowed to do 50 on single lane roads and 60 on the motorway? or is this a case of the law being a donkey?



Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Wireless on July 15, 2008, 17:41:34
...and so far nobody has answered the Ambulance question.


Isn't it whatever speed the road is.

3rd lane, I was told recently on a feild trip from school that mini buses can't use it. Is that try for all buses?


Ambulance Single 50mph Dual 50mph Motorway 70mph.

Most Ambulance Services also have Operational Instructions that may state 40mph as a maximum speed on single carriage-ways with a patient on board if the journey is not an emergency.

As far as I know, there's not a restriction on minibuses using the third (or more) lane on a Motorway, not sure about Buses, but Coaches seem to use those lanes.  Unless a Bus driver in here knows different.

Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: lambert on July 15, 2008, 17:50:13
Given what has been said elsewhere should the answer not be 'whatever speed is appropriate to the prevailing conditions.' Also didn't someone go on record saying 'rules are for the guidance of the wise and the blind obedience of fools.'
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Wireless on July 15, 2008, 17:50:46
From the link
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070304

Cars & motorcycles
(including car-derived vans up to 2 tonnes maximum laden weight)

Are allowed to do 60 single lane and 70 dual carriage-ways but what about Solihulls finest creations?  My 110 has a MGW of 3500 kgs (with HD springs) am I only allowed to do 50 on single lane roads and 60 on the motorway? or is this a case of the law being a donkey?



A 110 isn't a car-derived van.

If you have a commercial 110, and it's not PLG Taxation Class on your V5, then the Goods Vehicle Speed Limits (up to 7.5 tonnes) apply.  Single 50mph, Dual 60mph, Motorway 70mph.

I can't see your 110 weighing over 7.5 tonnes.
Title: Re: lets see who is right about speed
Post by: Mr Bump on July 15, 2008, 18:27:33
From my rather battered memory  :evil: lol  the V5 says Light Goods Vehicle, but I do a yearly battle with MoT testers who insist it's class 7 commercial when in fact according to VOSA it's Dual Purpose class 4... 110 Hardtop by the way...


The last place I tried to have it tested at said too heavy for the ramps - 50 kilos too heavy, when laden - ramps were only rated for 3000 kgs  :| ho hum.  In the end I went to a more sensible tester a bit further away who will get all my (MoT) business from now on...who put in on 2000 kilo ramps   :shock:



I like the quote above;   'rules are for the guidance of the wise and the blind obedience of fools.'  :lol: :lol:   :shock:
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