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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: python on March 14, 2008, 20:39:38
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hi all, well i have finally bit the bullet and ordered my new springs and shock from mm4x4. anyone else used them? its procomp es9000 shocks and heavy duty springs with a 2" lift. will i need anything else before i start ripping the truck apart to fit them? im a bit nervous as its the biggest job im having to do on the truck so far. :) any advice will be great. jon..
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The only other thing i would fit asap is extended brake lines
Drive the car after you've lifted it, it'll soon tell you if it wants any other parts
I didn't change props or radius arms on my first disco
You dont always need to fit castor correction
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i dont know how anyone can bear HD springs, just taken them out of my 90 because they rattled my spine out! mind you standard disco ones are pretty soft i suppose.
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Possibly new front turret retaining rings, as you might snap a couple of bolts when you undo them (if you decided to take the turrets off that is) it ruins your day when you snap something and cant finish the job.
these rings, and 4 nuts
(http://www.4x4wire.com/rover/disco/tech/ome/outerretainingnuts.gif)
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hi, theres rings and bolts in the kit. thanks for all the quick replys guys. will look into extended brake lines asap. :D
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Get a set retainer rings and a set of nut splitters (£4)for the bottom damper nuts on the front cause it's quicker and easyer to split them off than try and wind them off as they are in a very confined space and usually stuck, also have a small bottle jack to put between the axle and the chassie, jack it up and drop in the spring (don't like spring depresors Had one go off ,not nice [-X)...
(http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/a8/85/334d_1.JPG)
I have the same setup on my Disco and it works really well on and off road :D
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He's right about the damper nuts, I drilled 2 holes in each one then used a sharp cold chisel and BFH to split them, you can't always get a nut splitter over the end of the damper bolt.
Once it's done see what you think to the handling, then let us know ;) If you're not happy we'll be more than willing to help you spend more money :D
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and dont use a ratchet spanner when tightnening up the shocker bottom bolt - theres no way to get it out when you've done!
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My first lift (the LR equiverlant to riding your first bike I supose) was the same (or very similar) kit from MM4x4, unless other wises stated expect the procomps to be standard length. For recreational off road this hasn't been much of a problem and it means that a number of items like bump stops and brake lines can remain standard with no risk of damage. The kit I bought came with turret rings included.
On a RRC I found the on road handling transphormed, the first time on the road with the HD lift it had a roof rack loaded with tyres as well and round round abouts the body roll was less than before without the roof rack. Having said that a standard disco generally has stiffer springs than RRC to start with. Off road you have the lift increasing clearances, though stiffer springs do hinder traction.
from mm4x4. anyone else used them?
As long as they supply the right parts to you at the right time then they are fine. From bitter experiance though their customer service can unfortunately be some what lacking at times.
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i had this kit on my old disco from mm4x4 really helpfull as a ordered a 2" lift and when it came i wanted more so phoned them up and they changed it 2 a 3" at no extra cost cant fault that :dance:
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The only thing with standard bump stops is that you are unlikey to ever use them with a 2" lift, the springs are just to stiff.
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i fitted the extended stops cos of my tyre size, not the lift.
my tyres kept fouling the tub under articulation with the standard ones on it
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guys, cheers for all the advice, will change things as i need to i think, im using the truck on road mostly for now with a green lane once a month or so. im getting the hocky sticks and cranked rear arms when money allows me. will look into the brake lines and bump stops though. :D
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i had the set from them, including the bump stops and extended brake hoses, (still not got round to fitting the hoses) service was great. the kit had no boots for the shocks, a call to them and i got them next day, cant fault them.
the only problem i have now, is that the back end of my Disco seem to have dropped, and i now need about another inch on the rear to level it out.
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Mine too, I', going to try new springs as they could have gone saggy.
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i am going to try a pair of wizards spacers, if i ever get round to ordering them :?
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big a, rrb, how long have you guys had your springs fitted.?
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Oh they were on when we got it, so 5 or 6 years I guess. The LPG tank is heavy too plus I carry my winch in the boot, quite far back because of the LPG tank.
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If you have got the long reach shocks you might find you need dislocation cones for the rear. Have just lifted mine and on the 1st outing noticed the rear springs had come out and where fouling on the tyre :( put some cones on and was fine today aprt from the occasional bang when they located themselves :)
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I had the exact same kit...search my previous posts for my experiences of fitting it.
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big a, rrb, how long have you guys had your springs fitted.?
I thought it was 2 years ago, but the wife informs me it was Febuary last year ?? :doh:
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I have th other problem, I think something was last year and it turns out it was 2 or 3 years ago :oops:
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so you guys would recomend them?
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i would recomend them, they provided a good service, and the kit had everything i needed.
Range Rover Blues, it must be a sign of our age, as i never know how long ago things were these days :lol:
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Range Rover Blues, it must be a sign of our age, as i never know how long ago things were these days :lol:
You know what they say, when you get over the hill you gather speed :lol:
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hi guys, well my spring kit was here when i got home from work :). everything was present and correct too, which was nice. guess what im doing tomorrow on my day off? :grin:
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hi guys, well my spring kit was here when i got home from work :). everything was present and correct too, which was nice.
Thats good to hear.
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well its fitted now. happy with the front except the axle seems to be at a funny angle. or is that just me? the back is not as high as the front is either but its definetly an improvment. thanks for all the advice and the comments guys. :)
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Lets see some pictures then ;)
:D
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was trying to avoid this, guess who forgot his camera? :oops: will take some as it sits now and i have some of the truck before. :oops: :oops:
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hi all, subject to my rear being lower than my front, :oops: ahem,,, im now looking for rear spring spacers and a kit to lower the top shock mount. where can i get my hands on these items.? :roll: its never ending. :doh:
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Are you 100% that you have the fronts on the front and the rears on the rear?
That could be part of the problem
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eh? i hope so. that all depends on if the taller springs go on the front or rear. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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I cant speak for the kit you have but on Old Man Emu the thicker, slightly taller springs are the front ones and in most case's, labelled A (drivers side) B (passenger side)
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eh? i hope so. that all depends on if the taller springs go on the front or rear. :oops: :oops: :oops:
Which springs did you get?
Manufacturer and part numbers for the springs should be on the boxs they came in.
Some kits have longer springs on the front and some have them on the rear, there is no hard and fast rules covering all lift springs.
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ok, getting a little worried now. i used the old rule of assumption. and put the tallet ones on the front. the boxes were not well labeled. or maybe i was too excited to look right, will go into the garage and look at them. properly. :oops: there was no labels or writing on the springs so need to look at the boxes. if you go onto mm4x4's site you will see the kit.
http://www.mm-4x4.com/spring-lift-kit---2-inch-lift---includes-free-delivery-within-mainland-uk-2201-p.asp <this is what i bought. as the car sits the front is well high and the rear does'nt look as its lifted at all.
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They are on the wrong way round. The taller ones go on the back. Kiteman0 had a kit from there and i rang them too ask which way round they went. They said taller ones to the front ( it looked like a 747 taking off). Swapped around and it was bang on and looked great.
Taller springs too the back. Smaller to the front you will find if you measure the front coils they will be larger in diameter towards the rear
Hope that helps ;)
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Assuming they are britpart springs as shown in the picture then longer ones on the rear is far more likely.
The boxs my britpart springs came in had a sticker on them with the part number on.
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oh well, its something to laugh at now. :oops: :shock: now i have to figure out how to swap them over, again. cheers guys.
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oh well, its something to laugh at now. :oops: :shock: now i have to figure out how to swap them
over, again. cheers guys.
I did a side at a time when i swapped kiteman0 over. Little tip for you when you do the front push the shocker right up and get a stiff bit of wire tie it around the bottom of the front shocker and tie it to the top of the turret. Them just slide the spring and put the other one in
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well guys, tuesday is the day, im swapping them over so will post piccies. im having trouble uploading though, how do i downsize an image.
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i have got it done. im so happy now i can take the car back out the drive. :oops: it only took an hour or so to do the swap. pics to follow. :dance: :clap:
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Good work
Looking forward to seeing it
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PICS!!
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PICS!!
Ditto!!!
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hi guys, im having a bit of trouble uploading. :oops: will figure it out and post some pics, promise. :roll:
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update time guy's. just got to take new pics then ill post them here, been putting a winch and things on the truck and its keeping me busy. think i have figured out how to post up pictures. :oops: so ill take some in the morning and pop them up. sorry for the delay. :dance:
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http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1plIgLh6Gc45Xt3zu10Mgap5cg8kh906RbdL4FT1QjbccpLUbekxr4DYfbRXpyXKM-6u-OxlrG1SC9BUpxWTL-JobGksjD01-7 this is the truck as i bought it. isn't it shiney. not anymore. :twisted: this was when i had the psrings on back to front :oops:. http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1plIgLh6Gc45UyCsk5Aae778frA8pG3oEXlFc208qr0r6FLXTgFF6ANYjwhodPKKbdCxFRaAbQRTbaGOgVMhN2YbhnvBOSxnHg
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Your link just leads to a hotmail sign in page fella.
Stu.
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:oops: sorry, how do i post piccies then?
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uploading piccies to photbucket, hopefully that will work. hate bloomin computer. :huh: (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/marsh4376/off%20roadpics/DSC00877.jpg)
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(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/marsh4376/off%20roadpics/DSC00876.jpg)
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(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/marsh4376/glen%20shira/DSC00802.jpg?t=1209815229) this is how it used to look, :grin:
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Excellent
Looks good
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cheers mate. just have to get some swivel eyes for the winch bumper. get some spotlights fitted again and some little jobs and im done.. :grin: oh and paint the car as i dont like white, going for a home designed cammo paint job, as soon as i get the courage up to do it. [-o<