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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: TechnoTurkey on October 25, 2007, 13:37:35
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Hi,
I'm going to have to whip the anti roll bar off the 110 to swap the petrol tank (which I've been putting off for 6 months!), question is should I bother fitting it back on?
Don't use the 110 that much, maybe once a week for a potter around and after that maybe a few off road trips each year.
Any thoughts?
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It'll have to go back on for the MOT test, but it's common practice to remove it - especially if you have altered the suspension set-up.
Les.
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hi youcan take it off and leave it off if its not on for mot it can not be tested. items such as those are only mot able if on car, i am a mot tester/mechanic
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I took a Disco for the MOT and it failed because the roll bar was missing. The tester said it was fitted when new, so should be there for the test - failed under suspension rules.
Les.
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Thats what I heard too, if it was fitted when new it must be fitted. Just makes a mockery of it all when some vehicles didn't have one fitted.
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hi youcan take it off and leave it off if its not on for mot it can not be tested. items such as those are only mot able if on car, i am a mot tester/mechanic
I asked my mate who is trainer/QC guy for a local garage and MOT place, he is in agreement.
If it's fitted it must work, if it's not fitted it can't be tested. Anyone who says otherwise needs to learn their job.
You must tell your insurance, who probably won't care as it'll make you slow down :)
There is no code on the new MOT system for "anti roll bar removed and not replaced", bit of a giveaway really.
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MOT test book clearly states that an antiroll bar must be fitted to the vehicle if it was original spec.
Although the problem for the MOT center, is proving you had one in the first place.
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agreed.............if the roll bar was fitted as standard on your model it must be present and servicable when presented for an MOT
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when idid my course things like that i was told are a pass but advise
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I was at an MOT station today and asked the owner/tester about this. He said that if an anti-roll bar was fitted at the factory then it has to be present at the MOT test. If it's not there then it will fail under the 'unable to test' rule.
Les.
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If that were the case then any modification would also result in a fail.
If the vehicle has been re-engineered to not require the ARB then it doesn't need it.
It took LR 21 years to feel the nned to slap one on, and even then it's an afterthought.
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MOT test book clearly states that an antiroll bar must be fitted to the vehicle if it was original spec.
Although the problem for the MOT center, is proving you had one in the first place.
I have just pulled my MOT book out and this is exactly the case.
Section 2.4 'Suspension - General' states method of inspection as:
"Check that an anti-roll bar is fitted to an axle on which it is standard"
The reason for rejection is:
"An anti-roll bar not fitted to an axle on which it is standard"
As said before though, how does an MOT tester know whether it was standard or not?
I believe the rear anti-roll bar was an option on 110's. I have removed mine, but the brackets are still on the chassis. It passed it's last 2 MOT's like this. So, not only does an MOT tester need to know if it was fitted in the first place, but also whether it was an option. In the case of the latter, it cannot be deemed 'fitted as standard'.
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ehen i did my test we was given examoles of the flaws in it all example passenger seat belt worn if you remove belt and the seat then it passes as there is no seat for belt to act on ther is a lot of grey areas in it
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when idid my course things like that i was told are a pass but advise
Mine failed for not having a rear anti roll bar.
Now gets fitted just for MOT testing. As there is no a legal requirement to retain it fitted to the vehicle (from DVLA).
It might just be me, but that seems to contradict the need to have it fitted for the test.
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I am stuck on this as well, just put a 2" lift on my 1986 110 and the ARB looks as if it's holding it down. If taking it off what is the road holding going to be like if it dousn't sound too stupid?
Sabo
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I'm back. MOT - I took my Leveller of years ago and it's never failed an MOT?
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I am stuck on this as well, just put a 2" lift on my 1986 110 and the ARB looks as if it's holding it down. If taking it off what is the road holding going to be like if it dousn't sound too stupid?
Sabo
I really had no problems at all, but it will depend on the springs/dampers you are using. If the springs are a low rate you may find it rolls too much. Mine has OME springs which are fine. Hardly noticed the difference after removing the ARB.
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Rear anti roll is an option on 110. Hard top often do not have them where as a CSW often does, both will have the same brackets ready for fitting. I removed it on a CSW and no issue with MOT or with insurance as a mod.
As for the ride after removal, the difference is indeed noticeable but driving style soon adjusts. Have to throw the truck around roundabouts more sedately as it the body starts to roll like normal THEN suddenly rolls/pitches a lot more faster, but as said you adjust driving to it.