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Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: lambert on October 19, 2007, 19:08:27: Is it worth removing just one or is it better to bin both?

If only one what effect will leaving the front in have on on road manners ie under steer or over steer?
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: J B on October 19, 2007, 19:45:39: ive kept the front one on mine 8)
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: L90OOK on October 19, 2007, 19:53:29: You will need to put them back on for an MOT.
I'd remove them then road test it...will probably have to tell the insurance company you have removed them...unless they were an optional extra??
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Post by: MudRat on October 19, 2007, 19:56:45: Here we go again, :wink: on my disco when i gave it a lift, i took the rear off, slight more rol on roundabouts but nothing serious. It will not fail an MOT on them as if they are not on it, they won't check them. You can use spacers, but TBH its not worth the hassle. Cheers
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Terranosaurus on October 19, 2007, 20:59:59: Lambert

I've run my mav without th rear connected and it helps articulation and reduces oversteer, wouldn't say it makes a mav understeer but it gives you a bit more rear end bite. Spoke to you before about em and it does make em feel a bit strange to start with but youy get ued to it

Since I saw you last I've removed both front and rear altogether. TBH the front end articulation isn't much improved, its still rubbish but it is much more unwieldy on the road. Combined it with a 60mm body lift now too so theres a fair bit of roll, but you can still hustle along quite quickly just got to think a bit more about what you're doing.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: SWEETY on October 19, 2007, 21:18:20: Sptb

The other weekend when I was out with you, on the road I did'nt realy notice much more body roll on your's when I was following you or trying to keep up with you :lol: :lol: :lol: But off road you looked as if you were having a much smoother ride tham us :roll:
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Lincs niva on October 19, 2007, 21:40:27: My niva passed a recent MOT with out the anti rollbar shouldnt be any problem's..

Cheers Gav
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: skip on October 19, 2007, 22:02:45: Lose the rear and make some disconnects for the front, as it's the biggest it restricts articulation the most.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: laser_jock99 on October 19, 2007, 22:08:44: What ever you do tell your insurance company- pound-to-a-penny if you ever crash (we pray you don't) it will invalidate your insurance if there are any mods you haven't told them about.....
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Range Rover Blues on October 20, 2007, 00:56:20: And it's one of those things that down to taste.

Take them off, drive it, see how you like it.

Persobally I have 3 on Blue, I like to get round conrners.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Terranosaurus on October 20, 2007, 01:01:45: Quote from: "skip"
Lose the rear and make some disconnects for the front, as it's the biggest it restricts articulation the most.

Can't do disconnects on a Maverick/Terrano as the ARB sits between the wishbone and the drveshaft/CV, it would bang the hell out of them and still work to a point so its all or nothing on the front end. At theback of a T2 or Mav its really easy to pop the ball joint, I used to do it before I just junked em completely.

Sweety, you should sit in it. On road leans a bit but you get used to that, off road its way better, body sit still suspension is allowed to do what its supposed to, especially the front being independent it works great on the rough stuff with no ARB.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: lambert on October 20, 2007, 20:04:26: Been thinking...

What if on the front bar you were to cut it on the straight section at the front and weld a sleeve over the cut but only one side, then on the other side drill a hole and put a big R pin through to secure it. All in heavy guage steel.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Terranosaurus on October 20, 2007, 20:19:32: Should work but it may snap the pin on the road (I've seen you drive) if not of the correct grade. If pin too big snap bar instead.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: SWEETY on October 20, 2007, 21:19:49: Quote from: sptb
Quote from: "skip"
Sweety, you should sit in it. On road leans a bit but you get used to that, off road its way better, body sit still suspension is allowed to do what its supposed to, especially the front being independent it works great on the rough stuff with no ARB.

Oh so on the road it'll be like a standard disco then :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: hairyasswelder on October 20, 2007, 22:03:28: Dont now bout a Maverick but early RR Classics didnt have any :shock:
Mine is an '88 and has none :shock:

Steve
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Terranosaurus on October 20, 2007, 23:46:59: Quote from: SWEETY
Quote from: "sptb"
Quote from: "skip"
Sweety, you should sit in it. On road leans a bit but you get used to that, off road its way better, body sit still suspension is allowed to do what its supposed to, especially the front being independent it works great on the rough stuff with no ARB.

Oh so on the road it'll be like a standard disco then :lol: :lol: :lol:

Like an early one yes, they got better as they went along.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Range Rover Blues on October 21, 2007, 02:31:22: You can't weld anything tot he ARB, it's tempered spring steel, or should be, and the shear strain on the pin would be far too great.

I'm told some Jeeps and Japanese SUVs can disconnect their rear ARB on the move, anyone know for sure which car I need to stick my head under as I'm trying to design one.
Title: Anti roll bars
Post by: Terranosaurus on October 21, 2007, 07:49:24: Try a late model patrol, they can be disconnected on the fly and even reconnect automatically above a certain speed.