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Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Biodiesel-Bev on August 19, 2007, 22:46:37: How many 4x4's have you owned?
I'm on my 7th as listed below:-

1) Range Rover, B reg,2.5 petrol, blue

2) Shogun SWB, C reg, 2.5 petrol, blue

3) Land Rover LWB pick-up, ? reg, 2.5 petrol, ex Granada TV vehicle, bought at a farm auction

4) Discovery N reg, rioja red, 2.5 diesel

5) Discovery 04 reg, black, 2.5 diesel

6) Nissan Navara D22 Sport Pick-up, 54 reg, black, 2.5 diesel

7) Mercedez Benz ML270 CDi, 54 reg, black, 2.7 diesel (current vehicle)

Guess I like my 4x4's, but rarely keep them for more than 18 months, very fickle, like to try something different. :wink:
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Post by: MudRat on August 19, 2007, 22:55:29: In the last 4 years:

90
109 series 3
Light weight
Range Rover
Series 1 hybrid
Disco
Series 2 hybrid
Range rover bobtail
100 hybrid
110 csw (current)

I guess i love my Landrovers!
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: martha focker on August 19, 2007, 23:00:32: maveric

shogun

90

patrol

disco

can't remember anymore 8)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Dave on August 19, 2007, 23:07:18: 2 discos
1 90
1 series 3
All stuck on my blxxxy drive now :wink: :lol:

O yes and my new toy Skyline :D
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: William on August 19, 2007, 23:11:35: Ive already ahd two and ive only been driving 10 months!

90 naturally aspirated, navy blue C reg

O2 reg TD5 green 90!
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Thrasher on August 19, 2007, 23:24:48: hmmmm 4x4's

R Reg Ford Explorer (ok ok I know)
M Reg Land Rover 88"
S Reg Land Rover 109" (Military)
A Reg Land Rover Stage One V8
P Reg Discovery ES V8i
S Reg Freelander Xe 1.8
Y Reg Freelander GS V6
54 Reg Range Rover 4.4 Vogue
06 Reg Range Rover 4.2 Vogue SE Supercharged
Y Reg Mitsubishi Shogun Pinin Vivo
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Discohugh on August 19, 2007, 23:25:29: I have had.....
1 Jeep Cherokee Sport

1 Discovery 1994 V8

1 Land Rover 90 CSW

2 300 TDi Discoverys
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: simdeb on August 19, 2007, 23:37:20: series 2 1964 , 2A h reg, 1970 k reg rr, lada niva, series 3 lwb, series 1, series 2, then get married, series 1, series 3 lwb, 2a 6 cylinder lwb, series 2a safari, series2a/rr hybrid, v8 rrc, 2 swb Suzuki jeeps, lwb suzuki jeep, still going, 200tdi discovery, vm rrc,

Simon works ones
td4 commercial freelander 51 plate, td4 commercial 55 plate

still got
1 swb suziki, 1 lwb Suzuki, 1 200tdi disco 1 300 tdi chassis, all sorned, only one on road is vm rrc!!!! and of course his freelander

i think thats all :roll:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: v8kenny on August 19, 2007, 23:39:52: Range Rover classic 3.9 V8
110CSW 3.9 V8
Disco 1 3.9 V8 lpg
90 2.8 TD (Isuzu engine)
110 CSW 3.5 V8 lpg
Series lla 2.5 petrol (90 engine)
Range Rover classic 3.9 V8 (another one )
Disco ll TD5 (Yeuch ! )
110 pick up 3.5 V8
Range Rover P38a 4.6 V8
90 CSW 200 tdi

Loved them all except for the Disco ll - a big fairy of a car
Only have the last two on the list now and hope to keep them for a while
Feel the need for another series motor mind !
:wink:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 19, 2007, 23:45:53: Quote from: "v8kenny"
Range Rover classic 3.9 V8
110CSW 3.9 V8
Disco 1 3.9 V8 lpg
90 2.8 TD (Isuzu engine)
110 CSW 3.5 V8 lpg
Series lla 2.5 petrol (90 engine)
Range Rover classic 3.9 V8 (another one )
Disco ll TD5 (Yeuch ! )
110 pick up 3.5 V8
Range Rover P38a 4.6 V8
90 CSW 200 tdi

Loved them all except for the Disco ll - a big fairy of a car
Only have the last two on the list now and hope to keep them for a while
Feel the need for another series motor mind !
:wink:

Yep, your certainly a V8 person :shock: 8) :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Duckhunter on August 20, 2007, 01:00:26: As it says below.............

I had the Fronty for four years, but after being made redundant and getting a much lower paid job it had to go!! Especially as distance to work became twenty miles instead of two!!

Now got another job that pays a bit better, hence the Disco.

Clive
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: UKJeeper on August 20, 2007, 01:33:42: '89 Wrangler
'94 Ford Explorer
'98 Ford Explorer
'91 Wrangler
'02 Chevy Tahoe
'94 Cherokee
'79 2 door Full Size Cherokee
'79 4 door Full Size Cherokee
'79 2 door Full Size Cherokee
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: murph on August 20, 2007, 01:34:48: Series 2A V8 :lol:

Series 1,

95 Disco 3.9 V8 LPG

89 Disco V8 ( turning into a bobtail pickup slowly)

RR P38a 4.6 V8 :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: edy on August 20, 2007, 01:44:00: just the two so far

109' series 3

88' series 2A

:D
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: dreadnought110 on August 20, 2007, 07:35:02: I've had land rover's since i passed my test 16 years ago and never been without one but that still only amount's to 2 land rovers (don't change very often!!!) And they are/where series 2a 1967 and for the last 12 years my 1988 110 2.5td of which i have almost done 200,000 in!! 8) 8)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: gtomo2 on August 20, 2007, 07:38:20: Just the two oned for me

Range rover 3.0 ltr diesel
disco v8 lpg
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: landroverkeith on August 20, 2007, 08:08:35: 300 tdi disco
1.8 freelander
series 3 2.5d
series 2a v8 :twisted:

not including the scooby i had for a few years
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: karlo on August 20, 2007, 08:34:15: Just 2 for me as well!

96 Kia Sportage 2.0 16v Executive

95 Disco 300TDI ES Auto.

Sportage is a Cracking little motor just a bit light for towing (that's the only reason the disco was purchased), 5 Sp with part time 4wd and a lsd in the rear, its on the drive & need to get around to selling it really!
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Jake on August 20, 2007, 08:41:54: I've owned...
Vauxhall Frontera Sport
Land Rover Series 3 88"
Land Rover Discovery V8
Land Rover Series 3 88"
Suzuki SJ 410
Land Rover Series 3 88"
Land Rover Discovery Tdi

Thats it for now :wink:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: JumboBeef on August 20, 2007, 08:49:31: 1991 110 CSW V8
1996 Disco ES V8
2003 90 Diesel
2004 Disco Diesel
1994 RRC LSE V8
1963 IIa V8
1963 IIa petrol
1965 IIa petrol
1958 IIa petrol

.....currently looking for my next IIa.
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Bunnie on August 20, 2007, 08:49:52: Personally ive only had the one and thats the Zuki Vit and only had that for 18months.

mum and dad have had:

Disco

50th 90 v8

and currently a defender black on 52 plate.
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Lord Shagg-Pyle on August 20, 2007, 11:47:26: A Long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Sorry wrong time!

I have owned the following:

A Series 2a 109 diesel
A 110 Diesel
Disco 200tdi (current vehicle)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: SHERMAN TANK on August 20, 2007, 12:13:24: 91 Disco
06 Navara
96 Disco
73 S3
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 20, 2007, 14:33:09: Just the one for me so far!!

1970 Series 2a 2.25 89in truck cab

iam only 16 so theres many more to come
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 20, 2007, 14:43:07: Quote from: "The Landy Guy"
Just the one for me so far!!

1970 Series 2a 2.25 89in truck cab

iam only 16 so theres many more to come

Cool, what does an 89" look like then Paul, :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 20, 2007, 14:47:11: lol i wondered who would notice that!!

The landy was an old 109 cut down and i measured it the other week and its a 89 instead of a 88inch, but somebody did a good job in cutting it down except the fact that when you go to put a 88 exhaust in, it doesnt fit!!!!!!!!!!! don't know what to do there, i need to the exhaust in before october!!

well there you go steven a nice story for ya
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 20, 2007, 14:50:07: Quote from: "The Landy Guy"
lol i wondered who would notice that!!

The landy was an old 109 cut down and i measured it the other week and its a 89 instead of a 88inch, but somebody did a good job in cutting it down except the fact that when you go to put a 88 exhaust in, it doesnt fit!!!!!!!!!!! don't know what to do there, i need to the exhaust in before october!!

well there you go steven a nice story for ya

Oh I thought you accidentally pressed 9 as its just after 8 on your key board, well, ok then thats cool. :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 20, 2007, 14:54:17: lol no, well really its 89.5 give or take
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Lucy1978 on August 20, 2007, 15:50:01: I've got

101 Camper - trans-africa veteran, off to morrocco in her in about 6 weeks time - enshallah
101 Ambi stripped ou,t used by a quarry as site transport, full external roll cage, just got an engine for it.
Series 3 88" with a 2.5 transit diesel
101 Vampire, blown up at bunsfield, I bought the wreck for parts for the second 101 above
Series 3 88" broken for parts
Series 3 109" waiting for me to finish building its gearbox before being mot'd and possibly sold on.

need to clear some off the drive to make way for what ever turns up next, got a hankering for a V8 88"
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Boddle on August 20, 2007, 16:04:40: Quote from: "The Landy Guy"
lol i wondered who would notice that!!

The landy was an old 109 cut down and i measured it the other week and its a 89 instead of a 88inch, but somebody did a good job in cutting it down except the fact that when you go to put a 88 exhaust in, it doesnt fit!!!!!!!!!!! don't know what to do there, i need to the exhaust in before october!!

well there you go steven a nice story for ya

Cut and shut a 109" exhaust!!!

Strange Rover
Ex MOD 3/4 ton series 3 2 1/2 petrol 1973
later bobtailed and converted to 3.5 V8
http://www.boddle.me.uk/strangeroverorg/index.htm

Deranged Rover (It was on the MOT Slip when I bought it)
Bobtailed Range Rover 1974
http://www.boddle.me.uk/derangedrovercom/Index.htm

From Sept 2001
The Tombrover
110 Tomb-raider Limited Edition Defender TD5
Well thats what it started life as anyway
http://www.tombrover.co.uk
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: hobbit on August 20, 2007, 16:32:40: One stretch disco
2 x standard lightweights
2 x hybrid lightweight
1 x 88" s3 hard top

1 x Sankey trailer
1 x 88" tub trailer
1 x car trailer for the ones that are not on the road

plus a Vauxhall Meriva for running my father about

These are what I currently own, apart from headaches from the other half :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Welshbreed on August 20, 2007, 16:40:00: till on my first, second and third.

1974 Series 3 - straight 4 Petrol (gained on feb 2nd 07)
1980 Series 3 - straight 4 diesel (gained on aug 8 07)
1980 Range Rover - 3.5 carbs v8 (gained on aug 8 07)

The last two I've nicked off my dad, but have been playing about with them for some time. Petrol S3 under budget rebuild, Diesel S3 under full rebuild and Range Rover may be bobed but will remain off road for a long time. I cant afford fuel at the moment.
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: lambert on August 20, 2007, 17:12:12: many(5+) subaru brat pickups(best cars ever made!)

1 maverick (best car ever made!)

1 john deere 9520 (not actually mine but, best car(tractor) ever made!)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 20, 2007, 17:12:30: Quote from: "Boddle"
Cut and shut a 109" exhaust!!!

what you mean by that?
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: scotifreelander on August 20, 2007, 17:26:28: :cry: ive owned just the 2

A '95 N reg 3 door discovery

and a '52 reg freelander witch i currently drive !!!!!

:sobsob: feel a bit left out !!!!!
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: SWEETY on August 20, 2007, 17:31:32: This is my first 4x4 a Terrano TDI & am loving it (had it 10 months now) I will not be going back to belly scrubbing hot hatches any more as I probs getting onto the drive & over the very large speed bumps in the road outside the house :evil:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on August 20, 2007, 17:36:21: Blue was the first
The came Red, which I sold to my sister
I had another blue one that was stolen
The came chuggaboom, that belongs to the wife
shortly afterwards came the LSE
this year I bought another LSE to break for parts
and finally a '93 SE that's for sale, I bought on a whim.

My sister now has a soft-dash, but that only comes here when it's broken, so almost never.

So we have 5, plus one that's just a memory. All RRCs if you needed to ask.
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: GREENI on August 20, 2007, 17:48:31: Here we go... in no particular order
ARC COMP MOTOR 88 COILER NATIONAL WINNER EX PETE ROBERTS
ARC COMP MOTOR 88 COILER NATIONAL WINNER EX IAN ROBERTS
ARC QT 88 COILER
ARC 80 BOWLER COILER BUILT BY ME
TD 90
300 TDI 90 CHALLENGE SPEC
300 TDI 90 CHALLENGE SPEC
100 INCH 6.2 GMC
100 INCH COMP RACER
5.7 OVERFINCH RANGE ROVER
6.5 GMC RANGE ROVER
3 DISCO'S
110 CAMEL
sj410
AND A MK11 ASTRA I TOOK AROUND TRENTHAM COMP COURSE AT EASTER A FEW YEARS AGO !!!
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: dazliss on August 20, 2007, 18:51:03: Just the two for me so far,

K plate Fronty,

X plate Disco II that is slowly bleeding me dry, but I still love the old girl
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on August 20, 2007, 19:41:54: 1969 2A Light-Weight
1994 Defender 110 Hard-Top (300Tdi)
1989 90V8-CSW
1998 Discovery '50th Anniversary' (300Tdi/manual)
1999 Defender 110 'Heritage'
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: J B on August 20, 2007, 20:25:24: J plate mitsubishi pajero 2.5tdi - total dog
M plate landrover discovery 3 door - wrote off
M plate landrover discovery 5 door - total joy 8)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: POTASH on August 20, 2007, 20:39:35: 1966 2a petrol
m reg lada cossack4x4
1992 disco tdi
1991 disco tdi
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: blueboar on August 20, 2007, 20:41:09: Suzuki Samuri soft top J reg
LRo 88 h/t X reg
lro 109 h/t X reg
Series 3 stage 1 Carawagon W reg
Discovery 300tdi auto N reg
Curent vehicle TD5 disco 2001
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Lincs niva on August 20, 2007, 20:57:58: Y reg swb series 3

P reg lada niva hussar..

Cheers Gav
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: hobbit on August 20, 2007, 21:01:09: Quote from: "The Landy Guy"
Quote from: "Boddle"
Cut and shut a 109" exhaust!!!

what you mean by that?

Cut down a 109" exhaust system to fit, then gas weld it back together or sleeve and clamp it :wink:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 20, 2007, 21:05:56: ah i see

good plan, dam i just brought the 88inch exhaust a few months back
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Boggert on August 20, 2007, 22:05:30: 05 Suzuki GV
P reg Suzuki Vitara
Y reg Terrano II
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: L90OOK on August 20, 2007, 22:39:04: 1x Series 3
2x RRC's
3x 110's
2x 90's
:roll:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: zacspeed on August 20, 2007, 22:56:24: First:
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p139/zacspeedforum/suzukivitara007Small.jpg)

Then came:
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p139/zacspeedforum/DSC_5473Small.jpg)

Then:
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p139/zacspeedforum/DSC_5639Small2.jpg)

:twisted:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Big Rich on August 20, 2007, 22:58:24: J reg 200 Disco
G reg series 2b forward control
? 1956 Series 1
J reg Range Rover
At the moment.......

Rich
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: BigSi on August 20, 2007, 23:06:20: 88 Suzuki SJ410
94 Suzuki Vitara JLX
95 Landrover Discovery V8 ES
94 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 ltr
86 Landrover 90 V8 Truck cab
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: sleeplessparadise on August 21, 2007, 08:19:03: '69 H reg 88inch 2A ldv 2 1/2 diesel
'80 V reg 109 station wagon 2 1/4 petrol *
'90 H reg discovery 200tdi
'01 Y reg defender 90 hard top Td5
'68 G 109 station wagon now with 200tdi
'96 M reg discovery 300tdi
'99 T reg discovery Td5

and of the above we still own all the ones without a little star :wink:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Boddle on August 21, 2007, 09:20:45: Quote from: "The Landy Guy"
Quote from: "Boddle"
Cut and shut a 109" exhaust!!!

what you mean by that?

Well if you have 109 which has been cut down then sure you need to do the same with the exhaust, You need to cut 19.5" (look for a straight part of exhaust pipe) from the section between rear of gearbox to silencer and weld it back together.
You may be able to extend the 88 in a similar way but you would need to a couple of inches from beyond the silencer and add it in the section as above from memory pipe diameter is the same.

You may want to look at the possibility adjusting the chassis mount (hammer) you may be able to adjust them to be able to get and 88 to fit bare in mind most exhausts are hung on rubber mount
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 21, 2007, 11:04:09: ok well at the moment i have an 88 exhaust that i was going to link up with some flexi pipe but like you said they arnt chassis mounts in the right places, can i weld some on, or would it just be easier to buy a 109 exhaust and "cut n shut" it?
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Smego on August 21, 2007, 14:30:24: two lada's
three suzukis
a kia and a RRC
other half owned a honda
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Hightower on August 21, 2007, 15:14:11: Just the one . . . . . :?

Although I am looking for another :twisted:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: martha focker on August 22, 2007, 00:00:39: mitsubishi gto 3ltr twin turbo.

yes im sorry, but it does have 4 wheel drive :D
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 22, 2007, 00:14:34: Quote from: "martha focker"
mitsubishi gto 3ltr twin turbo.

yes im sorry, but it does have 4 wheel drive :D

No no no, we're talking about proper 4x4's here Greg mate :lol: :wink: :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: martha focker on August 22, 2007, 00:22:38: haha, i have to cause trouble somewhere mate 8)

its a good job i own a proper one now :D
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: The Landy Guy on August 22, 2007, 00:23:13: lol
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Ja1983 on August 22, 2007, 00:31:40: First was this, following a few incidents with a speed camera!
M 95 Daihatsu Fourtrak 2.8TD (Jeffry)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/yorkshirecruise/Jeffry/DSCF0061.jpg)

Owned this twice in between comuting west yorks/durham, and moving up here
H reg VW Taro (Hilux) 2.4D (Hobo)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/yorkshirecruise/Pic019a.jpg)

in between owning HOBO F plate 2.5TD 90 (Rosy rotbox)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/yorkshirecruise/LR.jpg)

and current
J Plate 200TDI Disco (Pavarotti)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/yorkshirecruise/pavarotti/108.jpg)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 22, 2007, 00:34:27: Cool, the last two vehicles you saw the light. (Land Rover :) )
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: martha focker on August 22, 2007, 00:36:47: im with you there stevo :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Ja1983 on August 22, 2007, 00:37:10: ....and its the last two that saw the spanner the most!! :lol:

fingers crossed most of this one will be sorted as part of the sale agreement!

....landrovers are the best 4x4 for the environment, they spend more time stood in a garage! :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: martha focker on August 22, 2007, 00:38:45: thats why we love them :D
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 22, 2007, 00:40:33: Quote from: "Ja1983"
....and its the last two that saw the spanner the most!! :lol:

fingers crossed most of this one will be sorted as part of the sale agreement!

....landrovers are the best 4x4 for the environment, they spend more time stood in a garage! :lol:

Others must of been boring then if you had to never do anything to them... :?

:lol: :wink: :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Ja1983 on August 22, 2007, 00:45:00: the fourtrak was probably the most interesting, all i`m saying is 20mins, a bleed valve, and lots of nice black fog.....

clutch lasted a week after, but that was one hell of a week!! :twisted: :twisted:

..shame it was as good as a bmw 5 series offroad......

pickup was my favourite (i owned it twice!) but needed something a bit more person friendly, and probably more versatile offroad.

defender just happened to be a duff one unfortunatley, TDi all the way in future!! :lol:
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: muddyman on August 22, 2007, 00:45:53: 1984 3;5 carb rangie:- 1987 3;5 efi rangie:- 1988 3;5 efi rangie:- 1996 3;9 efi Disco.:- and soon to be going back to a rangie
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: Steven on August 22, 2007, 01:00:15: Quote from: "muddyman"
1984 3;5 carb rangie:- 1987 3;5 efi rangie:- 1988 3;5 efi rangie:- 1996 3;9 efi Disco.:- and soon to be going back to a rangie

Another V8 lover! 8)
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: muddyman on August 22, 2007, 02:58:52: Oh yes, before the land rovers I had a 400ci about 6.6liter yank,
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: GORDY 1 on August 22, 2007, 09:22:48: Last 4 years

suzuki vitara swb "still got"
suzuki grand vitara swb soft top "gone"
Land rover 101 Gs "gone big mistake"
Shogun 3.0L swb "still got"
Jeep Cherokee 4.0L "Still got"
Title: How many 4x4's have you owned?
Post by: martha focker on August 22, 2007, 19:18:52: nice selection, what was the best, yank jap or british :D