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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: 90sam on July 12, 2007, 15:10:09
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hey all,
Was loooking for a bit of advice, my 90 has finished the engine conversion and is about ready to be mot'd and taxed. I was just wondering could i drive to the garage which is only about a mile away or will i have to tow it? Seems silly trying to get another person to tow it when it can drive etc.
Anyone know?
Cheers
Sam
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You can drive to an mot but it has to be pre booked in with the mot place and of course has to be insured ect.
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You are legal to drive it to and from the MOT station as long as you can have the garage confirm you have booked your vehicle in for test. HTH
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Agreed with above, just make sure they have the registration number in their bookings book
But dont park it on the public road when you get there, get it in their yard, they should have marked spaces for mot vehicles, and make sure you tell them its not taxed
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You can drive a vehicle with an expired or failed MOT, to and from the test station or the garage where remedial work is to be carried out.
But all journeys have to be direct, and all work has to be have been prebooked.
You will still be required to have tax and insurance for the vehicle.
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Ring Garage. Get it booked in. Drive to MOT station, pass MOT. Drive home.
Do not stop to get tax.
Go get tax in other car or walk/tax online.
Drive vehicle :)
That's what I did :)
The only thing I had to do slightly different was stop for fuel on the way as it only had 2 litres in it... and it's a 4.6!
You will need insurance.
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Haha i hope its as simple as just "pass mot" it should be okay then! we have insurance just no mot and tax! Do i have to notify the dvla of the new engine even though it's still a 2.5 diesel?
Kind Regards
Sam
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You can try ... I tried 4 times to get my new engine number on .... and each time they sent me a new V5 with nothing changed. Then I went down to the DVLA place and *EVENTUALLY* got one with engine size 4600cc ... but STILL with my 3.9 engine no......
Gave up :)
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You can drive a vehicle with an expired or failed MOT, to and from the test station or the garage where remedial work is to be carried out.
But all journeys have to be direct, and all work has to be have been prebooked.
You will still be required to have tax and insurance for the vehicle.
You do not need tax.. for a start you cant get it without a valid MOT???
Cheers Steve
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Haha i hope its as simple as just "pass mot" it should be okay then! we have insurance just no mot and tax! Do i have to notify the dvla of the new engine even though it's still a 2.5 diesel?
Kind Regards
Sam
my log book says diesel heavy oil,2.5 litres
if they want to be anal i can prove back to the 2.5 N/a that my Tdi is an evolution of it
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Ring Garage. Get it booked in. Drive to MOT station, pass MOT. Drive home.
Do not stop to get tax.
Go get tax in other car or walk/tax online.
Drive vehicle :)
That's what I did :)
The only thing I had to do slightly different was stop for fuel on the way as it only had 2 litres in it... and it's a 4.6!
You will need insurance.
Fully agree, know someone who had insurance, drove direct to garage, passed MOT, then drove to town to get tax, but was stopped by those double camera bobbies, Had his car impounded
Double whammy, had to pay to get it back £120, plus £12 per day, then fined £80 and ordered to pay 2 months back tax dispite not having a mot.
Some garages now offer a service and allow you to tax it "online" at there premisies (slight fee) if you take the v5 with you.
Thing is i think by law you still have to display the disc, fined if not, since it take 5 days to come (longer now) then best to drive home direct , and get it at the PO.
Also seen written by a local brief in a local rag, that you can still be done and taken to court, although no one i know done yet, its up to you to use the pre-book in your defence, some plod forces will let you off if you can prove it (pre-booked) and within reasonable distance of the mot station from home and within the time scale, so no driving hundreds of miles.
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You can drive a vehicle with an expired or failed MOT, to and from the test station or the garage where remedial work is to be carried out.
But all journeys have to be direct, and all work has to be have been prebooked.
You will still be required to have tax and insurance for the vehicle.
You do not need tax.. for a start you cant get it without a valid MOT???
Cheers Steve
Don't know.
But the back of a failed MOT cert specifies the requirement for road tax and insurance before taking the vehicle onto the road, to get it retest or if test has expired.
As they right the rules, then that's what we have to follow. Didn't say they were sensible or helpful.
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That's a failed MOT cert. For vehicle's that have been SORNED, this cannot apply, as it is not possible to get tax without the MOT :)
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A vehicle that is SORN registered can not be driven/parked on public highway under any circumstances. To do so is a breech of the SORN rules.
If the vehicle has no valid road fund leicense, then it has to be trailled to the test center, until a valid MOT and tax have been issued.
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Nope ... the DVLA site clearly states if it has a prebooked MOT it can be driven to and from the centre as long as it is insured.
"Getting a vehicle covered by a SORN to an MOT testing station
It might be helpful if I explain that there is an exemption from Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) under Part 2, Section 22 of the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act (VERA) 1994 for a vehicle to travel to and from a testing station for the purpose of a pre-arranged MOT test. This exemption is only afforded whilst a vehicle is in use for the purpose of testing, and does not apply if it is merely kept on the road."
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If a vehicle is on SORN, it can be trailered, or pre-booked for an mot and has insurance cover can be driven as stated above, also it could be driven legally on trade plates
Normally if the vehicle is not taxed a garage will put trade plates on the vehicle for a brake test (4wd have to be tested with a tapli meter)
But be careful on parking it on a public road on trade plates, they are not necessarily covered under the plates to be done like this
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:( Just a point if you go for an MOT and the vehicle details don't tally with the DVLA details you may be refused an MOT. The garage have to log on to the DVLA and confirm that all the details are correct between the vehicle and DVLA before they start.
So if you have'nt got the log book changed for a replacement engine then it won't tally, so they can't do a valid emissions check as a Tdi will have different criteria to a normal aspirated diesel. Maybe you need to check with garage first ?
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Mine was fine ... and all done with new computerised system. But then...it's a V8 and my V5 states 4600cc as opposed to the 3.9 ... but the engine number is still incorrect :(
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A vehicle that is SORN registered can not be driven/parked on public highway under any circumstances. To do so is a breech of the SORN rules.
If the vehicle has no valid road fund leicense, then it has to be trailled to the test center, until a valid MOT and tax have been issued.
No it doesnt as many have now pointed out..... a pre booked MOT covers you for no tax disc as long as Insured and driving to the test station directly..
Cheers Steev
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Your car, your choice.
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Your car, your choice.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_4022058
Try reading this.
When can an untaxed vehicle be used on a public road?
An untaxed vehicle cannot be used or kept on a public road.
There is one exception:
You can drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road to and from a pre-arranged:
MOT testing station
VIC testing station
an approved vehicle weight testing station which covers design weight certificate or plated revenue weight
reduced pollution test
provided that adequate insurance cover for your use of that vehicle is in place
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Just had a thought whilst reading this thread:
Most of the time, the small print on the insurance states that the vehicle must have a valid MOT, or the insurance will be invalid.
Anyone familiar with the small print know if there is an exception for cover whilst going for your (pre-booked) MOT?
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Just had a thought whilst reading this thread:
Most of the time, the small print on the insurance states that the vehicle must have a valid MOT, or the insurance will be invalid.
Anyone familiar with the small print know if there is an exception for cover whilst going for your (pre-booked) MOT?
Its probably down to the individual insurance companies. :roll:
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Just had a thought whilst reading this thread:
Most of the time, the small print on the insurance states that the vehicle must have a valid MOT, or the insurance will be invalid.
Anyone familiar with the small print know if there is an exception for cover whilst going for your (pre-booked) MOT?
I cannot be sure about this but once did check with an insurance company bloke on the end of a phone.
he told me that with his company must only be driven to and from, if you had a accident because the vechicle might be deemed to be unsafe on the way, there company would only pay out 3rd party.
I asked what if it passed, he said the same as no valid tax unless you went by other means to get the tax from the PO
These were in the days before online appilcations rules might of changed but have since been told that if you have insurance and tax but no MOT then the tax & insurance becomes invalid if you are caught, unless its just to get an MOT
Now assume then you cannot keep a vechicle on the road once the MOT expires since your insurance & tax is invalid, but if kept on private property the insurance will cover non RTA events.
It seem they are all related no doubt this anti car government will remove this guideline and make it harder to get a MOT meaning loads of work for recovery trucks.
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provided that adequate insurance cover for your use of that vehicle is in place
I'd stress caution.
I asked my insurance company to transfer my insurance over to Snorkley (the Disco) because I wanted to take him in for an MOT.
They refused saying that they would not insure a vehicle to go for an MOT and that it had to be trailered.
Needless to say that they won't be my insurance company when the present cover runs out next week.
What a load of tosh.
Ed