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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: pas on May 02, 2007, 15:45:20

Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: pas on May 02, 2007, 15:45:20
Helllo one and all

I'm in the process of buying a 110 Hicap 2.5 NA Deisel  and planning on shrinking it to 90

has anyone done this and if so anyone got any tips??

I'm also thinking of doing an LPG enrichment on the engine so has anyone heard of this on the 2.5 NA (I know its been done on the TDI with great success)


cheers

Paul
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Eeyore on May 02, 2007, 16:36:52
Erm, gonna sound daft I know, but I'm sure it's cheaper to buy a 90 and not shrink it. Gonna be a lotta work for not a lotta gain. Moving fuel tanks, chopping chassis, shortening props, cropping cross members and rear overhang etc etc.

As for LPG on 2.5na - should work, but a turbo engine supplies more air for combustion. There will be gains, but not as large as on a TD engine. I'd also watch for the bottom end (crank etc) shuffling about under load, the na engines didn't have the stiffest bottom-ends in the world.

Try contactcing Allisport or IP Fuels for details.

HTH
cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: pas on May 02, 2007, 16:50:10
but its a challenge  :twisted: and i'm getting the 110 for £450 with recent recon box and engine (now everyone is gonna say i'm paying toomuch :? ) and i don't fancy the silly money you pay for a 90 (already got a rear tub lined up for £50)

thanks for the engine info , will follow that up

Paul
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: redhand on May 02, 2007, 17:23:44
What do you want to shorten it for 110's handle better on the road then a 90 does and have twice the storage capacity and unless you're into extreme challenge events will go anywhere a 90 will go.
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Porny on May 02, 2007, 17:33:52
Above all the work...

You'd also have the joys of a SVA - as you will be modifying the chassis away from standard specification.  At best, you will be able to keep the existing ID - at worse it would end up on a Q plate.


Ian
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Eeyore on May 02, 2007, 17:34:40
£450! If it's not a rot-box, then you've snagged a bargain!

How about a compromise then - 100"?  :wink:

Cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: 90sam on May 02, 2007, 17:43:12
Why dont you buy a 90 Galvanised Chassis then thats lss to chop up nad will last! And with no Dvla issues i think?
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: pas on May 02, 2007, 21:20:22
thinking of trialling/CCV/comp safari  as my disco (however modified) is a bit big for that  :) plus I might not manage to blow a salisbury diff as easily as I have the disco ones

and the only rot is on the rear cross member (and it comes with a replacement) and a bit on the bulk head so not too bad really

Paul
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: davidlandy on May 02, 2007, 21:54:18
go for it - chop it up

it will be a great experience.

it can be much different from chopping a range rover chassis down to make a 90 out of it. we did one a couple of years ago - see my galleries..a 4x4 is born
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Porny on May 02, 2007, 22:40:53
Quote from: "90sam"
Why dont you buy a 90 Galvanised Chassis then thats lss to chop up nad will last! And with no Dvla issues i think?


Apart from the fact the Land Rover will be registered as a 110 - but on a 90 chassis.  So the chassis is no longer to original specification  :wink:
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Ben on May 02, 2007, 23:07:25
Why not tidy up the 110 a bit, sell it on for a bit of a profit, and put that towards a pukka 90?

Just a thought :shock:

Ben
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: sas pinkie on May 03, 2007, 07:05:06
If you do go for it I could know someone that would be VERY interested in buying the rear bulk head, rear body and all the mountings off of it, least that would give you some funds to put back into it. 8)
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Priglet on May 03, 2007, 10:05:15
You could leave the wheelbase the same and bobtail it.
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: Magnum335 on May 03, 2007, 11:18:42
I was under the impression the propane needed a turbo...
Title: converting a 110 to 90
Post by: pas on May 03, 2007, 13:54:49
Quote from: "sas pinkie"
If you do go for it I could know someone that would be VERY interested in buying the rear bulk head, rear body and all the mountings off of it, least that would give you some funds to put back into it. 8)


I already have a request for the tub and fittings from the guy i'm borrowing the trailler from but may have the bulkhead as I think the 90 tub I have lined up comes with seat boxes (is that the same???, iv'e not worked on defenders before only disco's so i don't know)

cheers

Paul
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