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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: muddymart on March 24, 2007, 17:18:56
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I currently have a 'm' 300tdi disco , and i like it very much , but for me the defender 90 is more pleasing to me and wish i had bought one first,
could i have a few opinions from defender owners on towing weights, seating and etc.... we have 3 children so seating would be important,
and what the chance of swapping with cash for one :wink: :wink:
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buy a defender. fit seats in the back, job sorted. towing wise, they'll pull the same as a discovery... although i'd feel more confident towing with a defender, but ours is a 110. bit more stable
if i had the choice between the two (which we did.. obviously) i'd buy a defender every time. theres some real nice discovery's out there, but they're not for me.
stuck driving my mothers at the moment if we need to go out as we have work in the pipeline for the 110 so its off the road... i just dont like driving the disco.
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i was looking on ebay, im not bothered about age as long as its been serviced etc...do 90's have bench seats in the back??
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some do, some dont... just depends what someone's wanted or used it for really. if you want them you can fit them... .some have proper side facing seats in the rear rather than benches........ its all easy work anyway if you do or dont want them
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your talking me into faster than i wanted, :lol: :lol: mmm thinking of putting 12 months mot on the disco and putting it up for swap with cash , before i start doing any mods on it,
will it tow the same weight as the disco ,our c/van is 1500kgs
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you know its a good idea ;) it will tow the same, although in theory it should be happier towing it and in reality tow more, as defenders are usually lower geared..... either way, it will laugh at 1500kg
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Well lets just say i would give my disco to anybody who would want to swap it for a nice 110 csw. think they just rock loads of room inside and easy to fix :wink:
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easy to fix :wink:
you gonna be giving us a hand when ours is in bits then? :D;)
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easy to fix :wink:
you gonna be giving us a hand when ours is in bits then? :D;)
Just give me a shout i shout hear you from your back door :wink: And i will pop around and give you a hand no worries
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hah nice one ;) will do!
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right you lot,
decision made, not going to spend my hard earned on the disco mods, going to get a defender !
:lol: will be putting it throught mot next week, so watch the wanted forum !!
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good choice! you know its sensible ;)
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Good on you, hope you get yourself a good un. and have loads of fun with her :wink:
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Well sorry to be the odd one out here but i have both and i like the disco better. How these two are set up the disco is much better off road too.
Now dont get me wrong here the 90 is brill and i love it, Just like the disco more :wink:
Much more comfort in the disco but if it was for winch challange then the 90 but set up different,, Ie softer more travel on the springs.
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Well sorry to be the odd one out here but i have both and i like the disco better. How these two are set up the disco is much better off road too.
Now dont get me wrong here the 90 is brill and i love it, Just like the disco more :wink:
Much more comfort in the disco but if it was for winch challange then the 90 but set up different,, Ie softer more travel on the springs.
yours is one of my "nice disco's out there" examples :) lol
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i know where your 'e coming from Dave, the 90/110's are more eye pleasing for me for some reason,
for ride comfort i'd really have to go in a defender and see for myself, :idea:
ive heard that seating is tighter in the front, im not saying im a big lad, but im a tall 'en and like my space,
as above, must try before i buy :idea:
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Same here i love the boxy shape of the 90/110.
The biggest smile is from the series 3 but i could not live with it every day.
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ive heard that seating is tighter in the front, im not saying im a big lad, but im a tall 'en and like my space
im much more comfortable in the 110 to be honest... i find i have to have the seat right back in the discovery cos the steering wheel gets in the road.
to be honest i much prefer the ride in the 110 too... i find it much more predictable although that said, i reckon the discovery has had [!Expletive Deleted!] coils fitted on it... needs to go back to alldrive, what you reckon dave? :D
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ive noticed in my disco , the seat doesnt go back enough for me and sometimes can be uncomfortable, not like swmbo's car where im practically sat in the rear
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it might be just cos im awkward... although like keri just said (to me in person this is) for passengers and most people in general the discovery does have more "room"
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Well a standard 90/110 will be better than a standard disco offroad but if you are modding them up, it the kit you choose that make the motor.
As you say you are tall not good in a defender or a disco. So as you say try one or two out first at the end of the day it all personal choice :wink: .
Good look with that choice.
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yep best way to do it!
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yep i'd deff get a standard one then , buy the stuff as i go along as thats the most fun !!
i think best thing to do is go and test drive a few at some garages, and see for myself,
do they come in tdi and standard diesel?
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3.5 V8, 2.5NA, 2.5TD (generally avoid this one if poss), 200tdi, 300tdi, td5
those are the usuals :) you often find them fitted with others though, mazda turbo's and the likes
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i know where your 'e coming from Dave, the 90/110's are more eye pleasing for me for some reason,
for ride comfort i'd really have to go in a defender and see for myself, :idea:
ive heard that seating is tighter in the front, im not saying im a big lad, but im a tall 'en and like my space,
as above, must try before i buy :idea:
had a 110 - went mad for 1 - then after about 6 weeks my knees cried 'enough' you can alter the seating position - but then sacrifice rear room.. i am now back with a discovery, and my knee doesnt ache 1/2 as much (have the start of arthritis) i drive about 75000 miles a year in my hgv - which isnt as bad as it seems as I have room to stretch my leg - but in the 110 it was stuck in 1 position..
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im same bezzabsa drive works 7.5 t every day with plenty of room. disco seating i can tolerate, but different people have said the seating in 90/110 is tight
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There again I am totaly the opposite. I can drive a defender all day (and have done) whilst I have yet to find another car where I can drive for more than an hour.
Drove an astra I had once for 2 hours and couldnt get out of the car when we stopped :shock: (well, I crawled out as it happens)
I have driven my 90 from dudley to Carlisle with no stops (200 miles) and in the summer I drove our 110 450 miles through france in one day. In both cases no cramp or sore bum.
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I'm 6ft 2 and have no problem getting comfy in the Disco . The driving position feels very trucklike but thats ok.
Tried a couple of 90's and 110's etc and found the driving position terrible !
You are sat with your shoulder wedged against the door and pillar . While that may hold you firmly when offroad it's bloody uncomfortable.
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The Defender 90 is the dogs do das but after 60 miles my left leg would start to loose feeling,i had my 90 knicked before christmas but am looking to get another shortly,forget swaping the disco,you will need to stump up serious cash for a nice 300tdi 90 which is the best option in my opinion.
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this has come up in so many conversations ive had with people over the last couple of weeks when ive been chatting to them, you can tell im a local driver :?
You are sat with your shoulder wedged against the door and pillar . While that may hold you firmly when offroad it's bloody uncomfortable.
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I to prefer defenders but you metion you have 3 kids, if any of them require a booster seat then you will either need a 110csw=mega money or exmoor trim forward facing seats=again flippin expensive and take up a fair bit of room. if i had kids i'm not sure whether i would be hapy with them traveling on bench seats.
just something to bear in mind when thinking about it. i think that with some 235/85 muds and trim your arches and you have a very good motor that will follow a similer equiped 90 most places.
will.
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true, youngest is 3 and thats a good point,
our kids safety is paramount and although i like the look of the 90's, maybe its not about having the cake and eating it, and 90% of the defenders ive looked at have bench seats, maybe the law (im not sure) would be leanient with me, with the kids on bench seats?
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I dont think the law would be too please and just think about the consequences in the event of an accident :shock: i would not want to be in the back and i'm 6'4 so could brace myself ect, i think the only place for a 3yr old is the front passenger or second row (110 etc).
Just my 2p worth.
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vaild point though...Muddy,
thinking about it twice ,or spending over budget which i dont want to do :!:
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TBH your only option with 3 young kids is a 110 CSW :( as I dont think it is possable to get 3 forward facing seats in the rear of a 90.
One option would to fit RR rear bench seat in the front of a 90 (seen it on a thread in the defender section) allowing 3 in the front of the 90 including the youngest in a booster seat.
TD arn't too bad if they have had regular oil changes and such and you could always fit a disco 200Tdi later when funds allow. I think that option would be a cheaper step than buying a factory 200Tdi
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I agree with the comment about TD's.. my 110 had one fited and it ran like a swiss watch, quiet and surprisingly smooth - not the quickest thing off the lights but once on the motorway then 70 mph cruising was possible - hapier at 60 - 65 though!
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Me and my wife are new to landrovers .She drives our 110 station wagon to work every day and we use it for camping and day trips etc.
My wife was the one who did'nt want a disco as i said it might be a better choice being that she would be driving to work everyday but she loves the defender and said if we were having a 4x4 thats what we were getting.
Glad i did i love it .It may not be as comfortable as a disco but you get used to it.90's are not big enough if you have a family and some discos are to nice inside for off roading unlike defenders which you can pressure wash out [only joking]