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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: old joe on March 16, 2007, 15:49:12

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: old joe on March 16, 2007, 15:49:12

Hi all a study in japan about CPR

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6454013.stm

Resus in the uk is goved by the Resuscitation Council

http://www.resus.org.uk/

all thoughts appreciated

Dazza

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: Llanigraham on March 16, 2007, 17:24:21

I heard this on the news this morning, and as an instructor with Heartstart Wales (the Welsh arm of the BHF) was interested. However, this was only one doctors research and needs more investigation first.
We teach that to be MOST effective you should give CPR and breathes at a ratio of 30:2, but that if you are put off or unable to give the breathes then don't worry and just do continuous compressions.
I have found that a lot of people are unable to do successful mouth to mouth because their own mouths are not big enough (won't apply to MudPluggers!!!) so we teach mouth to nose, and have a much greater success rate. This is very true when teaching women.
There is also the fact that there is often less "mess" around the nose than the mouth.

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: ben_haynes on March 16, 2007, 20:36:34

In my opinion aslong as the person performing the CPR has been taught properly then there is not a problem with it

i have been trained by a Qualifyed Paramedic with in the Scout Assosiation, i also train Scouts to do CPR and they are all competent in it

i have had to perform it in real and yes i saved some ones life doing it, and i would not think twice about doing it again

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: Boggert on March 16, 2007, 21:44:09

I have been taught 2 breaths to 15 chest compressions. We have been told the breaths are going out. They are not using them in the USA.

I have only had reason to do it once and the guy died, as long as you are doing something they have a chance... something is better than nothing.

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: ben_haynes on March 16, 2007, 21:54:45

Quote from: "Boggert"

as long as you are doing something they have a chance... something is better than nothing.

exactly :!: thats why we teach the young people how to do it properly

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: Llanigraham on March 16, 2007, 23:18:45

Current British Resusitiation Council advice is for 30 compressions to 2 breaths, and this is what is taught by St John, Red Cross, British Heart Foundation, Ambulance Services, and all other bodies in the UK, at the moment.

As my next door neighbour runs one of the largest Health & Safety Training companies in Wales, and therefore gets any changes before they are made public, I shall ask him to let me know if anything changes.

I would encourage EVERYONE to go on a training course, and learn basic CPR as soon as possible.

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: SimonHarwood on March 18, 2007, 10:54:43

Hands up all those who could manage to continuously do 100 (specified in the article) chest compressions a minute for the, say, 5 to 10 minutes that it takes an ambulance or fast-response car to arrive.

Title: Drop 'kiss of life'
Post by: Llanigraham on March 18, 2007, 11:52:20

Yes, I can and have. It is amazing how powerful adrenalin is!!!!!

And you are lucky if you get an ambulance in 5 to 10 mins. Around here it can be 30 mins!