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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: winchman on February 23, 2007, 14:49:17

Title: Front hub things
Post by: winchman on February 23, 2007, 14:49:17
Just replaced the discs and pads on my 300TDi.
As I had to undo the top king pin bolts to remove the caliper ( fantastic bit of design) the oil started to leak out of the swivel housing.
I know its EP90, and how to put it in but how much do I put in?
Title: Front hub things
Post by: floyd fan on February 23, 2007, 15:23:41
Undo the square plug at the top, thats where you put it in. Undo the smaller plug about 2" further down, when the oil comes out of the lower hole its full.
Title: Front hub things
Post by: winchman on February 23, 2007, 16:35:54
Thanks didnt see the level plug  :oops:
Title: Front hub things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 24, 2007, 12:05:12
As a tip, I always put a spare trolley jack under the bottom of the swivel housing (knuckle) to keep the oil seal incontact.
Title: Front hub things
Post by: winchman on February 24, 2007, 15:44:46
Good idea, managed to do the other side with out undoing the king pin bolts.
Did find a bit of play but cant decide if its king pin or bearings
Title: Front hub things
Post by: solihull-mick on February 25, 2007, 16:50:56
Just a tip, dont use ep 90, go for one shot grease, come in a tube, one per side,  :D
Title: Front hub things
Post by: winchman on February 25, 2007, 18:20:35
Where do I get that from?
Title: Front hub things
Post by: solihull-mick on February 25, 2007, 18:22:28
Any good landrover agent, or craddocks, paddocks, can post you some if you like :lol:
Title: Front hub things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 26, 2007, 18:33:43
But drop the EP90 first or you will have too much oil in the swivel, guaranteed to leak then.
Title: Front hub things
Post by: solihull-mick on February 26, 2007, 18:42:55
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
But drop the EP90 first or you will have too much oil in the swivel, guaranteed to leak then.


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Title: Front hub things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 26, 2007, 18:47:01
The one-shot grease either comes in big tubes or in measured sachets with just enough ofr one hub.  If you don't drop the EP90 out first then the grease gets thinned out and you will have too much oil/grease in the hub.
Title: Front hub things
Post by: solihull-mick on February 26, 2007, 18:48:56
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
The one-shot grease either comes in big tubes or in measured sachets with just enough ofr one hub.  If you don't drop the EP90 out first then the grease gets thinned out and you will have too much oil/grease in the hub.


Strange, out of the thousands ive done, never had that problem, thats the whole point of one shot you dont use ep 90 :roll:
Title: Front hub things
Post by: solihull-mick on February 26, 2007, 18:50:28
sorry miss read the post, you must drop out the ep 90 first
Title: Front hub things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on February 26, 2007, 18:50:51
Ah, see what you mean now.  Whilst the one-shot does mix with EP90, it stinks.  After about a year it's not much thicker than EP90 either but still doens't leak as badly.

I tried using that Lucas hub oil with stabiliser but as my end-caps are leaking on the LSE all I can report is that it's a b*****d to get off your wheels :roll:
Title: Front hub things
Post by: random_badger on February 28, 2007, 17:12:50
Looking at putting one shot in, have been recommended to use "normal" CV grease, an MS2  type grease, as this is the same or as good as land rover stuff, any one know quantities to use? manual says 250ml of ep 90, should i go one for one with the grease?.  

Also this may be useful, was told to put some in via the stub shaft cover as this will get into the cv joint as a good starter.  This makes sense to me but just wondered if anyone else has tried this, or can recommend a better solution?
Title: Front hub things
Post by: solihull-mick on February 28, 2007, 17:29:05
The one shot grease looks like normal molly grease to me, just that it comes in a nice tube
Title: Front hub things
Post by: random_badger on February 28, 2007, 17:39:14
Just been looking around and seen a mix of ep90 and cv grease, heard of this before but i've no idea of ratios
Title: Front hub things
Post by: electricbluebadger on February 28, 2007, 18:29:49
saw the 'didnt know if kingpin or bearing', if you mean wheel bearing then that will give you top/bottom/left/right play in the wheel when jacked clear of the ground, kingpin will give top/bottom free play only

Cheers Steve
Title: Front hub things
Post by: winchman on February 28, 2007, 22:04:05
Thanks Badger didnt think of that common sense approach! :lol:
Title: Front hub things
Post by: Range Rover Blues on March 01, 2007, 12:29:56
Quote from: "random_badger"
Looking at putting one shot in, have been recommended to use "normal" CV grease, an MS2  type grease, as this is the same or as good as land rover stuff, any one know quantities to use? manual says 250ml of ep 90, should i go one for one with the grease?.  

Also this may be useful, was told to put some in via the stub shaft cover as this will get into the cv joint as a good starter.  This makes sense to me but just wondered if anyone else has tried this, or can recommend a better solution?


The one-shot grease contains molybdenum dysulphide, same as CV grease but because it needs to get into bearings as well it's runnier and stickier than CV grease, which is a very very high pressure grease.

Personally I'd stick with the one-shot and yes, I put it in through the CV joint/ driveshaft too.  For anyone rebuilding a swivel I recomend coating the top swivel bearinng in either grease or one-shot whilst assembling.

IIRC the manual says fill the back of the wiper seal with MD grease anyway.
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