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Vehicle & Technical => Mitsubishi => Topic started by: Mudlark on January 08, 2007, 19:44:41

Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Mudlark on January 08, 2007, 19:44:41
Yesterday on my way to a off-roading spree in Wales I came to a steaming halt on the M5 eventually being transported home on the back of a big yellow truck with yellow flashing lights :(  

Well I spent most of today - about 5 or 6 hours - taking the head off my Shogun to find:


(http://team.mudlark.info/images/IM07001087.jpg)


(http://team.mudlark.info/images/IM07001090.jpg)


I had a premonition about it being a piston :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:


Question is now - or rather tomorrow after pricing parts - is what do I do

The options as far as I can see are:

Replace piston and rebuild

Get replacement short engine (engine ex head) I should be able to source a 2.5 replacement here

Get replacement full engine - again I should be able to source a 2.5

A replacement car either SWB or LWB

All of these could well be around the same sort of price each obviously has it's own problem



Decisions decisions  #-o  #-o  #-o  #-o


And NO a Land-Rover product is not an option!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Jas278 on January 08, 2007, 19:46:54
OUCH
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: wheeler on January 08, 2007, 19:55:33
i had same prob 6 months ago but i snaped a valve
nackered head and piston i see by the pics the head is damaged cyclone diesel aint it
any how i priced it up and to do all the work my self it would cost about 1000 quid
engine parts very expensive and how far do you go
pistons 80 od quid each might as well do all for
new valves 12 and 8 quid each
if you put pistons in do you do big ends  etc as its apart
cam belt ballance shaft belt head gasket set was quiet dear
and how muck to repair head or even second hand one
your cheapest option is 2nd hand engine
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Mudlark on January 08, 2007, 20:05:47
Quote from: "wheeler"
i see by the pics the head is damaged cyclone diesel aint it



That is melted piston you see on the head

However there may be a possibility of the head now having a crack in it :roll:
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: bezzabsa on January 08, 2007, 20:16:11
buy another shogun - nick the engine - then sell the rest on, looks like the best option.....or buy a landy :D:D:D:D:D:D
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: wheeler on January 08, 2007, 20:19:01
looking on ebay id buy another one and break yours or save it for parts
but there is a new head on there for 270 quid
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Shogun-Pajero-2-5-CYLINDER-HEAD-BARE_W0QQitemZ270077224376QQihZ017QQcategoryZ10400QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
but engines are never the same once rebult  :roll:
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: rollazuki on January 08, 2007, 20:39:42
Id find out what the cause was?

Was it a dead injector?

lack of water?

be sure before throwing new parts at the old motor and doing it again.

Dont forget you can melt/crack/overheat a piston if an injector is leaking/spraying incorrectly
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Onan The Barbarian on January 08, 2007, 22:01:45
Gutted for you, Julian!  :shock:  :cry:

With the potential cost to repair yours... never mind the time and grief... I think I'd be looking on eBay for another Pajero!  No good now, I know, but there was a lovely SWB Mk.I on there a couple of weeks ago that went for about £500... so they're out there, Mate!  :wink:

Hope you get sorted soon!  :roll:
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: UDTrev on January 08, 2007, 22:37:08
Make the transplant worth the agro - fit the bigger 2.8 intercooled lump :)
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 08, 2007, 22:40:03
Quote from: "rollazuki"
Id find out what the cause was?

Was it a dead injector?

lack of water?

be sure before throwing new parts at the old motor and doing it again.

Dont forget you can melt/crack/overheat a piston if an injector is leaking/spraying incorrectly


Absolutely, I'd say second hand long engine too, that head has suffered.

Or stick in a Rover V8  :wink:

Or go Rover V8 and leave the Disco bolted to it :wink:

Real sorry to hear that though mate, let us know if you find the cause.


P.S. petrol or diesel?
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Mudlark on January 08, 2007, 23:06:40
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

P.S. petrol or diesel?


Diesel

Like the sound of a V8 but not the thought of a disco


Quote from: "rollazuki"
Id find out what the cause was?


Dont forget you can melt/crack/overheat a piston if an injector is leaking/spraying incorrectly


I wasn't aware of that so will get them checked if I use them again
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Devon-Rover on January 09, 2007, 01:21:50
Ouch that looks nasty.

I don't like the look of the scoring on the bore of the cylinder next to that one either!

IMHO another engine is the way to go unless you can rebuild that one cheaply and rectify what went wrong.

It only cost me about 50 quid to put new rings in and also one new piston, holne the bores, change the valve stem oil seals and a headgasket on the landy.

As the pajs are far better it should be far cheaper  :wink:

I know of a chap near new who has a zook with a hole in the piston. It'll cost 40 quid just for a replacement.  :shock:

Honestly good luck with getting it back on the road.
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Bulli on January 09, 2007, 10:07:23
double bum!

life is never straightforward. Rolla is spot on(dont get a BIGGER head)

I wouldnt chance that head as a replacement engine would no doubt cost less than having the head checked out!

hope you get it sorted.
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Evilgoat on January 09, 2007, 10:44:30
I'd be thinking about the engine dude. The damage on the next cylinder is on the same side as the serious damage to that piston. Maybe a cooling failure or its boiled the water away and nuked the other piston too. If I was doing ti myself I'd be having both pistons out before going further.
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Boggert on January 09, 2007, 12:49:52
Go for a recon or Second hand engine, as long as the rest of the car is worth it, which I suspect it it.
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: paul_humphreys on January 09, 2007, 21:50:24
PM on its way I found someone with a engine they want rid of, well compleat car.

Paul
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: davidlandy on January 09, 2007, 22:08:58
Mudlark

I think that you must have tempted fate with your endless posts about how reliable and brilliant Jap stuff is.

welcome to the real world!

 :wink:
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: Mudlark on January 09, 2007, 22:21:37
Quote from: "davidlandy"
Mudlark

I think that you must have tempted fate with your endless posts about how reliable and brilliant Jap stuff is.

welcome to the real world!

 :wink:



One engine in 4 years is not quite the same as endless diffs week after week :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Very Poorly Shogun
Post by: CJ on January 09, 2007, 23:51:28
Hey Mudlark, thats bad with your engine mate, dont know if your interested but...  weve just got back from exeter car auctions, we bought two old L200s but there was loads of mitsis up there, we bought the twp l200s for 450 squid, both are a ok, just need mot work...  

might be a cheep way to get a new motor if you know what your looking for...  

was also a jeep cherokee 4.something V8 for 280squid...
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