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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: marjan on December 02, 2006, 19:44:32
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Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
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dont forget to hang onto your hat
80mph winds as well :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
Isnt that a bit of a silly thing to be saying. Whilst i appreciate rain make pay and play more interesting, surely green lanes shouldnt be driven in such conditions as it leaves permenant damage and only serves to provide ammunition to the cause against us.
Your own signature reads that lanes should be treated wiht care and presumably as a member of Glass you respect their "code"?
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I'm off to Woodlandsin the morning, the rain should make it interesting to say the least!
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Rain is a natural part of our environment and its going to happen if we like it or not. Green laning is not about ripping up the lane but driving it with care and respect what ever the conditions. So a bit of mud on a lane is going to be inevitable. I think we only had a couple of months this year where the ground was as solid a concrete, the rest of the time it going to be soft and muddy at some point.
Now I’m going out laning tomorrow morning just like Mark and many others and I like a puddle or two, I’ll drive to the conditions and follow the Green lane code as do all Green Lane members. Remember the roads are there to be driven what ever the conditions, as long as you drive them in the correct manner. :wink:
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Just what I want, RAIN. :( Doing a classic car run in the Lakes tomorrow in the Spitfire. :roll: I must say smo has a point. Just tread lightly. :wink:
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Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
We have another member that appears to use the public highway as a playground.
If the lanes are that wet they shouldn't be driven.
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Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
We have another member that appears to use the public highway as a playground.
If the lanes are that wet they shouldn't be driven.
You are joking right?
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Complete rubbish, there are 2 lanes that are to be avoided in the dales if it is wet for a long period. 2 or 3 days rain wont have him ripping ruts up them. Most are hard based anyway.
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I think you guys need to lighten up a little, it can be worrying for an innocent bystander such as myself :lol:
Anyways, you should see the damage a logging kit does on a damp day :lol:
You should see the damage a herd of cows do on a wet day and a couple of tossers on horses.....Not to mention the farmers tractor, the environment agency, the electricity board, the Police, the military.....God, even I am getting bored now.
How about we all just buy hovercrafts and be done with it. :evil:
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I think you guys need to lighten up a little, it can be worrying for an innocent bystander such as myself :lol:
Anyways, you should see the damage a logging kit does on a damp day :lol:
You should see the damage a herd of cows do on a wet day and a couple of tossers on horses.....Not to mention the farmers tractor, the environment agency, the electricity board, the Police, the military.....God, even I am getting bored now.
How about we all just buy hovercrafts and be done with it. :evil:
LOL great answer :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Here it's been raining at some point every day for the last 2 weeks. Fields and soft surface roads are hard going. It's more noticeable the last couple of days.
It shouldn't make much difference to a hard surface road.
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I think you guys need to lighten up a little, it can be worrying for an innocent bystander such as myself :lol:
Anyways, you should see the damage a logging kit does on a damp day :lol:
You should see the damage a herd of cows do on a wet day and a couple of tossers on horses.....Not to mention the farmers tractor, the environment agency, the electricity board, the Police, the military.....God, even I am getting bored now.
How about we all just buy hovercrafts and be done with it. :evil:
Interesting answer and whilst correct no one is lobbying to stop access for cows, horses, god, the police etc...so we have to be especially careful.
I know the pleasures of a good lane just the same as anyone else, i just think it wise to tread carefully especially as its not just one night of rain and a few puddles, its been weeks of bloody heavy rain.
Still, have a good outing :)
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Well I'm going green laning tomorrow in Wales and the rain tonight will make it very interesting
As for treading carefully I will be treading no more carefully than I normally do
All this kow-towing to the likes of bobblies has gone too far - just tell them to get stuffed, but be polite as you tell them :twisted: :twisted:
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Well I'm going green laning tomorrow in Wales and the rain tonight will make it very interesting
As for treading carefully I will be treading no more carefully than I normally do
All this kow-towing to the likes of bobblies has gone too far - just tell them to get stuffed, but be polite as you tell them :twisted: :twisted:
is this something organised by a mud club group or your own thing
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Tomrrow I'll do some of the gentle lanes on my own, but usually I go out with a mate or two.
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always makes for a good day out, no need to stay at home just drive properly
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where were those pics taken?
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Is that a Smart Car waiting it's turn behind you Steve. :shock:
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It better turn or it will be the first "Smart Boat"
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Well I'm going green laning tomorrow in Wales and the rain tonight will make it very interesting
As for treading carefully I will be treading no more carefully than I normally do
All this kow-towing to the likes of bobblies has gone too far - just tell them to get stuffed, but be polite as you tell them :twisted: :twisted:
is this something organised by a mud club group or your own thing
No it's not a MC thing :lol:
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seems to me that some off roaders are more bobble hat than the bobble hats
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To be fair the post to the passing observer does read either way. Given it's sat in the bar though all and sundry will read it :(
I have recently been singing the praises of MCUK and how a positive line is taken regards the approach to laning.... this thread though seems to shoot my efforts in the foot. ](*,) Maybe making it clear in the origional message would have helped a little... for instance if it were snowing it's ass off there would be little objection I imagine to excitement of such weather conditions. Though to state your off laning and it's going to be brill because it's pee'ing down suggests to me one thing... Mud like it or not. If on the other hand the origional post had suggested, It's raining and tomorrow I'm going Fording on surfaced roads / lanes then I and I'm sure all the others who have taken a deep intake of breath when reading the post would have no issue.
You have to be very sensitive on these topics, It'll will be used againt us otherwise regardless of any best intentions Glass members or not.
It's all down to public perception and not reality unfortunately, something I know all to well though my job. :(
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I personally am really......... no, I mean really fed up with the prospect of having to curtail my activities regarding various hobbies that I enjoy.
Wherever I turn there is some miserable git trying to force their tawdry version of life down MY throat. If it isn`t the Government, then it is some do gooding namby pamby spineless peice of detritus.
A nice walk out in the wilds and a conformist mass produced peice of metal, a cup of hot cocoa and a nice book to read at bedtime may well suit these people, along with their nice hand knitted wooly jumpers and the monthly donation to the red cross may enable them to feel that they are living.
Myself, I enjoy the roar of large V8`s, big diesels, 6 wheel drive american trucks, getting all slipery in the mud.
Motorcycles, I have several.....Boy are you up against it on these things, everybody hates you for it.
Fishing, the anti`s are having a go at this now.
Occaisional junk food....That is the sin of all time.
Smoking, I am a leper in this society.
Drinking, god, thats it, I am going to hell in a hand cart :shock:
I won`t tell you anything else, your hair or toes may curl too much :lol:
This is what it has come down to though, we will have to go underground, secret societies, stolen moments of enjoyment, secret passwords :roll: :roll: :roll:
I say no, meet them head on and stand up and be proud, be counted, fight this encroaching tide of all things good and nicey, nicey.
I for one want ot die knowing I have lived, have entered peoples lives and made a difference, not just rolled over, paid my taxes, lived a good clean life and popped a thoroughly lovely pair of lilly white clogs.
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Att I couldn't agree with you more. Its a lane so in my eyes it there to be driven carefully to the correct conditions.
However if you look at a similar group who's way of life style has be ruined by this government we could learn something. Hunting, now I'm not saying I'm pro or against... that’s for another talk forum, but they fought hard with a lot of public support and still got beaten by the anti's, I guess we have to tread carefully while still doing what we do.
Its bloody sad if you ask me, If want to walk it… walk it, if you want to ride it… ride it… just leave me alone to drive it! :roll:
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no the smart car didnt attempt the ford but the lady who was driving was out rambling, but smiled and said hello.
the ford is near buckleburry on the river pang.
as far as doing a few lanes in the rain goes i left less damage than the gang of cyclists we came across, thats where the wide v thin tyre comes into its own
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Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
We have another member that appears to use the public highway as a playground.
If the lanes are that wet they shouldn't be driven.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about and as you can see from all the other replys to my post you are in the minority. All the lanes we have driven today have a hard rocky surface, all I meant was that there would be a bit more water in the 2 fords that we crossed.
In case you are blind you can see from my signature that I am the GLASS rep for West Yorkshire & The Dales so I am hardly likely to go tear-arsing around causing damage :roll: :roll: .
Another point is that you have violated the spirit of this forum by attacking another member without any thought :x :x :x
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Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
Isnt that a bit of a silly thing to be saying. Whilst i appreciate rain make pay and play more interesting, surely green lanes shouldnt be driven in such conditions as it leaves permenant damage and only serves to provide ammunition to the cause against us.
Your own signature reads that lanes should be treated wiht care and presumably as a member of Glass you respect their "code"?
The code does not say " Stay at home when it is raining", it says that lanes should be driven with care and consideration for the conditions prevalent at the time.
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Rain is a natural part of our environment and its going to happen if we like it or not. Green laning is not about ripping up the lane but driving it with care and respect what ever the conditions. So a bit of mud on a lane is going to be inevitable. I think we only had a couple of months this year where the ground was as solid a concrete, the rest of the time it going to be soft and muddy at some point.
Now I’m going out laning tomorrow morning just like Mark and many others and I like a puddle or two, I’ll drive to the conditions and follow the Green lane code as do all Green Lane members. Remember the roads are there to be driven what ever the conditions, as long as you drive them in the correct manner. :wink:
Spoken by a man with some brains between his ears instead of sawdust!.
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marjan, as stated earlier in this topic can be read in a certain way...
Heavy rain forcast for tonight and we are going laning up in the Yorkshire Dales tomorrow, should be a great day out!.
That certain way is that it can be understood as in you're happy about it having rained, because then that means mud, and that is the stereotypical behaviour of those who tear greenlanes up.
By no means am I saying that you did or did not do that. What I am saying is that the way it could be read can have people misunderstanding what you mean.
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Get off your soapbox before you look like a plonker - your original statement was very badly worded, and certainly implied that the rain would make the laning better because it would be soft and muddy, and thus damaging.
Before you go saying to others about community spirit and insults, you are too guilty of this in your posts.
I have nothing further to add, i trust you were careful of the lanes and had fun, simple as that.
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Get off your soapbox before you look like a plonker - your original statement was very badly worded, and certainly implied that the rain would make the laning better because it would be soft and muddy, and thus damaging.
Before you go saying to others about community spirit and insults, you are too guilty of this in your posts.
I have nothing further to add, i trust you were careful of the lanes and had fun, simple as that.
It's how you interpreted the posting that started this ball rolling, you jumped to the obvious conclusion without any hesitation, but in hindsite I could have worded it better so sorry to have caused any grief between members.
Yes we had a great day with no damage to lanes or vehicles.
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People are by enlarge very quick to judge, worrying aspect of our society really, not to trust others :roll:
Although saying that, there a few bods on here that are a little.....Let`s say retentive.
<Gets>
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I personally am really......... no, I mean really fed up with the prospect of having to curtail my activities regarding various hobbies that I enjoy.
Wherever I turn there is some miserable git trying to force their tawdry version of life down MY throat. If it isn`t the Government, then it is some do gooding namby pamby spineless peice of detritus.
A nice walk out in the wilds and a conformist mass produced peice of metal, a cup of hot cocoa and a nice book to read at bedtime may well suit these people, along with their nice hand knitted wooly jumpers and the monthly donation to the red cross may enable them to feel that they are living.
Myself, I enjoy the roar of large V8`s, big diesels, 6 wheel drive american trucks, getting all slipery in the mud.
Motorcycles, I have several.....Boy are you up against it on these things, everybody hates you for it.
Fishing, the anti`s are having a go at this now.
Occaisional junk food....That is the sin of all time.
Smoking, I am a leper in this society.
Drinking, god, thats it, I am going to hell in a hand cart :shock:
I won`t tell you anything else, your hair or toes may curl too much :lol:
This is what it has come down to though, we will have to go underground, secret societies, stolen moments of enjoyment, secret passwords :roll: :roll: :roll:
I say no, meet them head on and stand up and be proud, be counted, fight this encroaching tide of all things good and nicey, nicey.
I for one want ot die knowing I have lived, have entered peoples lives and made a difference, not just rolled over, paid my taxes, lived a good clean life and popped a thoroughly lovely pair of lilly white clogs.
Please don't complain when the TRO goes onto ALL the North Yourkshire lanes.
That is what is going to happen.
Look at the temporary TRO's that have already been put on as an experiment.
We have already lost the argument and the right to drive most lanes.Soon there won't be any.
I've edited this to add.
Some time ago Look North TV did a half hour program on Green laning.
They did try to shew all sides of the story.
EXCEPT.
They use a shot of a CCTV trial shewing a well cut about RRC driving the course.You could see the canes in the shots.Nothing was said to explain that the RRC was on private land.
This clip was shewn straight after a clip of youngsters taking part on motor bike on a lane.
It's unfortunate that people get the wrong idea.That's why I believe that we should try to be whiter than white.
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I personally am really......... no, I mean really fed up with the prospect of having to curtail my activities regarding various hobbies that I enjoy.
Wherever I turn there is some miserable git trying to force their tawdry version of life down MY throat. If it isn`t the Government, then it is some do gooding namby pamby spineless peice of detritus.
A nice walk out in the wilds and a conformist mass produced peice of metal, a cup of hot cocoa and a nice book to read at bedtime may well suit these people, along with their nice hand knitted wooly jumpers and the monthly donation to the red cross may enable them to feel that they are living.
Myself, I enjoy the roar of large V8`s, big diesels, 6 wheel drive american trucks, getting all slipery in the mud.
Motorcycles, I have several.....Boy are you up against it on these things, everybody hates you for it.
Fishing, the anti`s are having a go at this now.
Occaisional junk food....That is the sin of all time.
Smoking, I am a leper in this society.
Drinking, god, thats it, I am going to hell in a hand cart :shock:
I won`t tell you anything else, your hair or toes may curl too much :lol:
This is what it has come down to though, we will have to go underground, secret societies, stolen moments of enjoyment, secret passwords :roll: :roll: :roll:
I say no, meet them head on and stand up and be proud, be counted, fight this encroaching tide of all things good and nicey, nicey.
I for one want ot die knowing I have lived, have entered peoples lives and made a difference, not just rolled over, paid my taxes, lived a good clean life and popped a thoroughly lovely pair of lilly white clogs.
Please don't complain when the TRO goes onto ALL the North Yourkshire lanes.
That is what is going to happen.
Look at the temporary TRO's that have already been put on as an experiment.
We have already lost the argument and the right to drive most lanes.Soon there won't be any.
Not going to happen mate, as the GLASS rep for that area I have regular contact with the YDNPA rights of way officer and it is they that have put in a Byway claim for Cam High Road from Far Gearstones to Fleet Moss.
I put a lot of time & effort into liasing with YDNPA on everyone elses behalf so please don't think that all is lost for laning in that area.
YDNPA want to keep the lanes open for us as they have sensibly seen that allowing us to drive some lanes will stop people saying "Stuff it then, I"ll drive anywhere".
(takes a big sigh and decides to retire to the GLASS forum).
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I think chaps we should look at the bigger picture, Marjan is a GLASS rep, therefore by definition someone who is considered responsible by a reputable organisation. Now before you all start jumping around let me have my say :D :wink:
If you are a GLASS member or not you have to admit the organisation is there to benefit all, you know what we do so I won't go on about it. Area reps do it for nothing! They spend lots their time working to keep ROW's open and fighting for our rights to drive lane others want closed. We should be thankful there are people around with the knowledge, experience, energy and time to do this. I for one am.
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Rain is good for when u go green laning :D
it then means that there wont be any dust in air to choke you whilst driving
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Well here's a different take on it for you.
Green lane = unlit road. The speed limit is 30mph. If you or anyone else wants to drive it at that speed thats your lookout. After a bout at Woodlands today I did a local byway. I very much doubt that my speed went above 15mph on any section, and thats being generous.
At one point there was a chap walking his dog. I was going slow enough that I stopped about 30 yards away from him without a drama to allow him to bring the dogs under control. Then, once he had them restrained, I continued on my way giving him a smile and a wave as acknowledgement as I went. That is my way of doing things.
Regardless of what the weather has been doing, what I was doing was completely legal. If I had been doing 30mph I would still have been within the letter of the law.
My point is this.
The law is there to be observed. There is no law in this country to stop me from driving the byway that I drove today unless the local authority deems it necessary. Even though I drive with care and consideration (I think I do!) it does not give me the right to sit on my moral high ground and dictate to others to do as I do. The laws are the laws and untill they are changed they will give all of us the pecunary right to behave in a particular manner.
Now, if you think that by not driving the lanes after rainfall you are doing something to preserve that right, you are wrong. You are feeding the anti's the ammunition they require to pressure for a TRO when the weather turns rough. If we stop driving any lanes when the weather turns, the anti's take it that there are those amongst the 4x4 fraternity that agree with them and use that to add power to thier arguement. Thus yyou are adding to thier cause.
If you don't believe me, look at the NERC bill. Any lane that we cannot prove useage of within a certain time period ceases to have legal recognition as a right of way for vehicles save for legal access which is irrevocable under the Presctiptions Act.
You can sit there at your keyboards passing judgement on those that are persueing that which is thier legal right, but it is those people who are prepared to get off thier bums and do the driving that are preserving your summer passtime.
God forbid, you may get your vehicles muddy in supporting them.
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Isn't the rain nice and warm? I find it most invigorating and find that it cleanses the soul.
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always there to lighten the mood jon!!
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But its true! I don't see the problem with rain! Its great stuff. All my neighbours are fretting because, shock and horror, the drains are not clearing it away! Of dear, what a shame, I'm glad that is all they have to worry about.
In all seriousness, folks, we are all sensible (well, sort of) people, we all know the guidelines about laning, so its not a problem.
Anyway, being a safety concious person, I am now going outside into the teeth of the storm (Yarr, nautical term that, me old matey buckos!) to climb up my tall, spindly ladder to try and re-attach my drain pipe that has come away. Now, where did I put my electric drill?
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and me; i have football training and tennis coaching in this weather later :cry:
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Lets face it, we have been treading soooooo lightly for sooooo long, and they still close the lanes, not because a few are chewed up, but because politics from europe are easier to follow if they close them all in a blanket ban.
wether we run them muddy or not, theyll get closed
IMHO only, not the voice of mudclub or anyone else.
Rolla