Mud-club

Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: littlepow on November 13, 2006, 13:44:09

Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: littlepow on November 13, 2006, 13:44:09
Started to get an intermitent misfire when I drive my 90. Restarting the engine cures the problem, but as it only seems to occur when it wants to and not every trip. Has anyone got any ideas bar changing the ECU loom under the cam cover?
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Magnum335 on November 13, 2006, 14:57:38
I assume its when you back off the throttle?
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Jimbo on November 13, 2006, 15:11:44
You mention changing the loom under the cam cover - I guess this is for the injector oil seal problem........have you pulled the two plugs off the ECU (one red, one black) to see if you have the oil problem ?

Jim
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: littlepow on November 13, 2006, 15:35:36
Misfire just occurs while driving, it's not even being consistant on the conditions it has occured in. But once engine is restarted it doesn't happen again for the journey.
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Porny on November 13, 2006, 16:05:59
Unplug the air flow meter and go for a drive... see if it makes any difference.

And as mentioned, check for oil in red plug on the ECU.



Ian
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Jimbo on November 13, 2006, 16:08:00
Do you get any warning lights on the dash when it happens ?
Have you got a tuning chip/module fitted ?

Only asking, as I have a Dastek PP and if you don't let it 'boot' for a few seconds straight after starting, the engine coughs and the orange 'engine' light comes on - ignition off/on sorts that out every time.

Jim
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Porny on November 13, 2006, 16:10:14
Quote from: "Jimbo"
Have you got a tuning chip/module fitted ?

Only asking, as I have a Dastek PP and if you don't let it 'boot' for a few seconds straight after starting, the engine coughs and the orange 'engine' light comes on - ignition off/on sorts that out every time.

Jim


You only get that with plug in boxes!!  :wink: not a proper replacement chip/remap.  One of the side effects of a plug in box.


Ian
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: littlepow on November 13, 2006, 16:21:14
ECU is in standard form, no chips/plug in boxes.
There are no warning lights on the dash.
Will check red plug after work.
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Porny on November 14, 2006, 09:19:08
Any joy??

Have you checked the red plug for oil, or disconnected the air flow meter??

Shame your not a bit closer, could have plugged my laptop into your Defender and had a look for any faults.

Ian
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: littlepow on November 14, 2006, 12:46:33
Quote from: "Porny"
Any joy??

Have you checked the red plug for oil, or disconnected the air flow meter??

Shame your not a bit closer, could have plugged my laptop into your Defender and had a look for any faults.

Ian


All plugs into ECU are clean, with no signs of contamination. Will try airflow meter disconnection  next.
What software / cabling do you use for fault finding?
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Porny on November 14, 2006, 15:02:13
Quote from: "littlepow"

All plugs into ECU are clean, with no signs of contamination. Will try airflow meter disconnection  next.
What software / cabling do you use for fault finding?


I've got Rovacom Lite... along with the neccessary files/leads.

North Yorkshire isn't that far if you wanted to pay my fuel costs  :wink:
(editied for stupidity!!  :wink: )


Ian
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Nick666 on November 15, 2006, 10:10:40
North Yorkshire's a bit further :D
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: Porny on November 15, 2006, 12:20:10
Quote from: "Nick666"
North Yorkshire's a bit further :D


I knew what I meant.....  :wink:  :roll:  :oops:

Is all still 'up north' from me anyway  :wink:
Title: Td5 Misfire
Post by: littlepow on November 15, 2006, 13:25:42
It's about 154 miles. A bit far, but may need your help at a later day.
Thanks.
Title: re td5 misfire
Post by: suds on November 15, 2006, 13:34:14
Ian
What difference would you notice on disconnection of Air Flow meter if working and if not working? I have a similar concern on my td5
thanks
Suds
Title: Re: re td5 misfire
Post by: Porny on November 15, 2006, 18:13:53
Quote from: "suds"
Ian
What difference would you notice on disconnection of Air Flow meter if working and if not working? I have a similar concern on my td5
thanks
Suds


If you disconnect a dodgy/faulty MAF sensor you should notice an improvement in low speed pick up, less hesitation when pulling away, and no low speed misfire.  You may also find that the engine performance is restricted at higher RPM's.

There are other things that can cause misfires on TD5's:

If the Crankshaft Position Sensor is too close to the flywheel (esp. if misfire occurs when the engine is hot) - you could do with reading fault codes off the ECU

Fuel Injector Faults (need diagnostic equipment really)

Fuel Injector Harness Faults (not just oil in the loom) - there was a problem with the harness not being plugged in correctly (faulty plugs)

Loose power feed into the underseat fuse box (though you usually have other electrical problems)



Ian
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal