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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: chaosego on November 01, 2006, 18:37:28
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is the lpg conversion for diesel discos worth doing any problems ?any one done it ?discuss:
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you want to go and talk to a pro fitter who knows about this conversion, as when i asked my mate (who is the above) he talked me out of it, i cannot remember the ins and outs now, it was something like only mix the propane once running to blend and create cheaper fuel being burned or something like that, and it knackers the engines dead quick.
as i said go ask a knowlegeable (spelt wrong) person before you mes with gas and a derv engine.
that said theres bound to be some one now go 'i dunit it does 70mpg twice as fast and been like it last 127 years'
seems to be the same as the veg fuel questions lots of conflicting answers.
only thing with gas and derv, play with that and get it wrong, youl need a new truck!
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cheers for that i was sort of thinking along the same lines as i do not know any one who has done it. my dads lorry firm had some units which run on natural gas but did not last long before blowing up.stick to derv and a bit of vegie oil in the summer ta glyn.
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LPG on a diesel is like fitting NoS to a petrol,gives you a power Boost & also makes it more clean burning
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THAT is what my man said, along the lines of haulage companies sometimes use it as for what they save on mixing with gas outways the price of an engine over 500,000miles or whatever, but i think im right in saying if your doin it for performance gains (as i was) your engine will go bang very very quickly as redline mike says , it gives mega performance boost. ive done the nitrous years ago in our cozzy, would have put it up against an f1, problem was it went megga bang on A1 after about 1200 miles.
its worth it right upto the point when your bonet has a head poke through it at about 150mph. makes a right old mess i can tell ya.
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There is a company near King's Lynn called Selina Automotive, they have done a Mondeo TD.....
When I was asked about converting a Vito DCI to Gas I spoke to the guy there (Andrew I Think) and He Said D O N ' T it'll go B A N G
But as is said everyone will tell a different story!
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I payed a small fortune for a LPG conversion on a V8 a few years ago.
1 tip, research it loads.
talk to the installer, grab a tour of the workshop and talk to ex customers.
If you dont feel happy with them, find someone else.
I enquired with one company and they sounded great.
But, when it came to dropping the car off the garage was horrible and it felt wrong but i still left it there.
When i collected the car it went wrong loads.
I had nothing but problems with them.
I ended up recifiying the problems myself (not what you pay £1500 for!)
Go with your gut feeling, walk away if you dont feel good about them
I wish i did.
:)
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I had a similar story with RRR, the gas system was well fitted but a lot of the brackets they made lookes shoddy, so whilst I was fitting the new head gaskets (came back with a bit of a wheeze) I remade them. Now got a very nice LPG system. Did the LSE myself, runs nice straight away. Funny that.
As for LPG on Diesels I think we've all heard the urban legend about 185BHP from a Merc sprinter, for the fourtnight it lasted but the truth is it's good for the engine because it cleans it up. On an older engine you have to keep re-tuning, adding progressively more LPG as the engine becomes cleaner. It also reduces emmisions to below the new level5 standard. LPG or more correctly Butane is a catalyst for the oxidation of Diesel so it releases more energy more quickly from the burn, you either use less or burn more rubber, that's down to howw you tune it but given the alternative additive systems currently in use (and how faulty they are) to acheive the EEC5 emissions I think LPG has a future in Diesel.