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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Jake on July 29, 2006, 10:57:47

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Jake on July 29, 2006, 10:57:47

Apart from it not working any more what would happen when i remove the air con radiator?
Will fluid or gas escape everywhere?
How can i prevent/stop/block this?
My air con does'nt work and the air con rad is blocking air flow to my cooling rad and the car keeps over heating on long journeys
(yes i know i should clean my rad out after off roading but its differcult with the air con rad in the way)
Any tips or typed help?
 :D

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Range Rover Blues on July 29, 2006, 12:51:34

There are places you can get the gas recovered and disposed of.  The carefully remove the parts and sell themon E-Blag.

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Jake on July 29, 2006, 19:09:53

I'm only planning on removing the radiator.
I will re-fit it at a later date (when i have a new cooling radiator)
Is it safe to just remove the air con radiator or is there any danger?
i.e from the gasses?
 :?

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: TimM on July 30, 2006, 11:34:08

If your air con doesn't work then chances are there is no gass in it anymore, but best to get a 'professional' opinion first.

Try giving a local aircon firm a quick call, if your lucky and only after a bit of advice, they might be quite useful  :wink:

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Jake on July 30, 2006, 11:36:56

The reason the air con is'nt working is that the belt is missing.
The bearings failed and the belt wore away.

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: gords on July 31, 2006, 00:16:16

Have you tried taking out your water rad and hose piping the air con rad from the inside?

Or maybe you need a new rad like wot I did (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=26904) :wink:  :lol:

By the way ... how can you not have air con? It's cool dude :wink:  :lol:

Title: air con rad
Post by: pegleg66 on July 31, 2006, 19:30:18

:D  :D
all i've done to mine jake is to cut the fins out or the air con rad and left the pipes in place, i only work in slough if you want to take a look. Rob

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Xtremeteam on July 31, 2006, 19:32:57

if you remove the air con rad thus leaving the system open its as good as scrap,the moisture in the air knackers the condenser/dryer (£000's)

& also if theres no gas theres no lubrication for the pump so it can seize up aswell

Title: air con rad
Post by: pegleg66 on July 31, 2006, 19:37:22

:D  :D  :D

well aren't i the fortunate one, mine seized years ago!!!!!

THERFORE NO PROBS!!!

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Xtremeteam on July 31, 2006, 19:41:10

also its a chargeable offence to discharge yer aircon into the atmosphere including if you have a leak & know about it

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: barmiebrumie on July 31, 2006, 21:55:38

Quote from: "RedlineMike"

also its a chargeable offence to discharge yer aircon into the atmosphere including if you have a leak & know about it

once was told it was a mild form of mustard gas & can become explosive :shock: , not sure how true that is,


John.

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Jake on August 07, 2006, 20:29:51

Now removed  :wink:
There was no gas in the system so i go on and got rid of it.
My cooling rad and intercooler were *slightly* clogged with mud.
I can clean them now.
 \:D/

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: beast5680 on August 07, 2006, 21:10:58

Quote from: "RedlineMike"

if you remove the air con rad thus leaving the system open its as good as scrap,the moisture in the air knackers the condenser/dryer (£000's)

& also if theres no gas theres no lubrication for the pump so it can seize up aswell

the compressor contains its own oil anyway so if theres no gas it makes no difference, also if theres no gas the binary switch wont be activated so the clutch wont engage and drive the pump anyway

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: Xtremeteam on August 07, 2006, 21:13:27

Quote from: "beast5680"

Quote from: "RedlineMike"

if you remove the air con rad thus leaving the system open its as good as scrap,the moisture in the air knackers the condenser/dryer (£000's)

& also if theres no gas theres no lubrication for the pump so it can seize up aswell

the compressor contains its own oil anyway so if theres no gas it makes no difference, also if theres no gas the binary switch wont be activated so the clutch wont engage and drive the pump anyway

i was lead to belive that it was only the early aircon pumps on the rangies that had there own sump for lubrication,all others in recent times were lubed by the oil in the gas

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: beast5680 on August 07, 2006, 21:21:28

the gas doesnt contain any oil you have to add PAG oil to the system, most or all compressors contain the bulk of the oil with some distributed around the system

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: gords on August 08, 2006, 00:10:51

I had my air con checked / regassed recently and was told that the gas lubricated the pump (on a Discovery 300) - can't remember if they specifically said there was oil added or was just part of it?!

Title: Removing the air con rad
Post by: beast5680 on August 08, 2006, 20:44:16

the gas moves the oil round the system to a certain extent and yes probably does lube it a little but its the oil in the system and retained in the compressor thats keeping it lubed correctly