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Post by: Thrasher on April 25, 2006, 17:28:28: Out and about today I spotted something which the owner probably thinks is cool - me - I think Land Rover should not allow it.

Picture this. Range Rover with SC front end, SC grills, SC BADGE! Looks just like an SC .. until....

Wrong C post
No "fin" on the roof
No exhausts
No performance - BECAUSE IT WAS TD BLOODY 6

No wonder people round here keep trying to race me ....

Supercharged badges should be VIN number related and not sold to people who don't own one. What is the point of putting an SC badge on something that plainly ISN'T?

Might as well stick another vehicle manufacturer badge on it and pretend it's something else it isn't ....
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Post by: mud-club-matty on April 25, 2006, 17:30:10: yer your is well nice
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Post by: NiceBlueWellies on April 25, 2006, 17:33:28: But do you not find it funny when they race away, and you pull off all dignified? :lol:

Nah, I bet you have your fair share of racing too! :twisted: And trounce them! :twisted: :twisted:
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Post by: Thrasher on April 25, 2006, 17:38:40: Julie ... since I got the SC I've done a lot less racing. I guess it's something to do with *knowing* that you can trounce a fair amount of the cars that I used to race ;-)

However - I still like stamping on the loud pedal every now and again and hearing the Supercharger howl and the V8 roar....!
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Post by: mud-club-matty on April 25, 2006, 17:43:16: stop i want one :D lol you just need to get it dirty
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Post by: bezzabsa on April 25, 2006, 17:44:50: Quote from: Thrasher
. I guess it's something to do with *knowing* that you can trounce a fair amount of the cars that I used to race ;-)

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Thats why I love my bike :D:D:D:D
little boy racers in their Chav mobiles love to sit and rev the nuts off their 1.4's... all I do is let the bandit rev to 11,000 with the ZORSTEC system on and they soon stop ;)
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Post by: mud-club-matty on April 25, 2006, 17:46:21: bez my dad macanice at work has a bandit 600cc
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Post by: strapping young lad on April 25, 2006, 17:46:59: neil

debadge it
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Post by: dew1911 on April 25, 2006, 17:51:19: Badge it as a TDV6, Then watch the looks as it flies off.
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Post by: Thrasher on April 25, 2006, 17:51:28: My last one was de-badged ;-)
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Post by: mud-club-matty on April 25, 2006, 17:54:57: neil were did owl end up do you know
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Post by: davidlandy on April 25, 2006, 20:03:52: Neil

Jeez, you'd think that by now everybody would know that you had a supercharged range rover!

:wink:
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Post by: dew1911 on April 25, 2006, 20:04:58: Yeah, most know you're obviously an overpaid lucky son of a... Nice Person!
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Post by: SteveG on April 25, 2006, 20:32:16: Quote from: "Thrasher"
I think Land Rover should not allow it.

AS you say they are sad, very sad :oops:

In my view one can only object to this if you want to show people how much you spent on your car, otherwise it doesn't matter. :)

Own an M5 then you'll see at least two copies a day with an M badge on :)

Cheers

Steve
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Post by: muddyweb on April 25, 2006, 20:36:39: You'll also see plenty of people sporting G4 stickers, painting their vehicles in sandglow or tangiers, wearing LR Special vehicle stickers, Warn and ARB graphics when none of the above apply... it's all just part and parcel of it !
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Post by: tiltboy on April 25, 2006, 20:39:49: OOOPPPSS!!

Does it really annoy people that I bought a genuine SC badge on ebay for under Ã‚Â£10 and stuck it the back of my '93 tdi 90 soft top?

GOOD!! :lol:

It really narked the guy round the corner from me who OWNS a Land Rover franchise! Ha ha. 8)

Can't think where to put a fin though!
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Post by: tiltboy on April 25, 2006, 20:54:08: I'll try and enlarge a pic.

Not a great pic but you can just see the badge!
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Post by: colintandy on April 25, 2006, 20:58:15: :D CANT SEE THE POINT OF A SUPERCHARGED V8 UNLESS YOU GONA RACE IT AND REALY BENEFIT FROM THE EXTRA POWER..IN THIS COUNTRY ON OUR ROADS ..ASK ANY TRUCK DRIVER THERE JUST AINT ENOUGH ROOM NOW ADAYS ON ANY ROADS TO APPRECIATE THE POWER ..IT CANT BE SAFE IN THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC WE GOT ON THE ROADS :wink:
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Post by: Grant on April 25, 2006, 21:02:55: Quote from: "Thrasher"
Wrong C post
No "fin" on the roof
No exhausts
No performance - BECAUSE IT WAS TD BLOODY 6.

Hehe sure are far more around than left the factory!

Noticed them all in leeverpool last week- loads of supercharged sports going RATATATATATATATRATATATAT away from the lights :lol:
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Post by: Damonski on April 25, 2006, 21:03:10: :lol: You just make the room, or try out your ground clearance those new 40" tyres give you :lol:
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Post by: davidlandy on April 25, 2006, 21:04:57: Not being completely clued up on RRovers I must admit they all look the same to me - so must save a fortune to just rebadge a lower spec one.

my little 90 has a ' LR special vehicles' badge on the wing but it isnt one - but no one tries to race me! lol
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Post by: Tigger on April 25, 2006, 21:11:57: My 90 has a SV badge on the back...it also has Diesel signs on it in places... oh what fun when I blip the throttle :twisted:
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Post by: colintandy on April 25, 2006, 21:20:27: :lol:
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Post by: ian_s on April 25, 2006, 21:38:08: and i thought the SC badge just meant stupid c**t...................
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Post by: yer auld aunt nelly on April 25, 2006, 21:54:27: [-X [-X now now none of that :smack: (as funny as it is)
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Post by: colintandy on April 25, 2006, 22:26:46: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: thanks just spilt my beer :D :D :D
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Post by: Thrasher on April 25, 2006, 22:29:57: You know.....you can go off people :p
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Post by: ian_s on April 25, 2006, 22:34:06: /me hides for a while
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Post by: colintandy on April 25, 2006, 22:34:50: at least one things for sure .... thats a damn fine machine he driving staying true to the range rover style of being the very best ooozing style and performance and thrashers right the felling you get when that charger comes in at very low revs ..ohh what a buzzing drive and stoppin power with huge bremco brakes ...fancy swappin :wink:
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Post by: davidlandy on April 25, 2006, 22:42:06: ...and for the doubters (if there are any) I can confirm that it is the real thing that he has, or is it an extremely good rebadged look-e-likey?! :-k

and the brakes are good, very good, phew.
:wink:
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Post by: LandRoger on April 25, 2006, 22:42:38: So Thrasher thinks its sad to have a replica motor-well the word Elitist springs to mind along with Snob etc , I think your the sad one for being upset about it in the first place, who gives a toss -only youM8,
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Post by: discograham on April 25, 2006, 23:06:39: Now pardon me for pointing out the obvious here, but isnt the idea that we all like our landy's REGARDLESS of what badge they may sport or which model,engine or whatever mods weve done or not ? I cant see the harm in a false badge... I take the point on elitism... but cant comment as I dont personally know the person to whom the comment was aimed... still...it IS a nice rangie...
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Post by: Jim-Willy on April 25, 2006, 23:35:24: I own THE BEST LANDY in the world......

I'm sure we all feel that way...... Are we all elitist :wink:
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Post by: v8kenny on April 25, 2006, 23:58:16: If someone wants to stick some badges on their Landy and kid on it's something else then why should anyone be bothered ?
Move on Thrasher - it's really not that important
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Post by: discograham on April 26, 2006, 00:14:02: I think it would be a giggle sticking an sc badge on the back of my v8 cosworth disco :lol: ... as if some corsa driving [ed: naughty] with his BIG music and BIGGER exhaust pipe would know the difference anyway.. but you just know they'd be wondering.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Post by: poorman on April 26, 2006, 01:25:06: Now now jw we all know that I now own the ultimate vehicle :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 06:44:28: Interesting. I'm not sure it's snobery or elitism. I think it's STUPID. Why put a petrol badge on a diesel? At least Tigger has it the right way round <grin>

It's interesting that nobody ever seems to think that the trim pieces on the lower model look good and swap it onto their higher model.

Note in order to get an older model TD6 to look like an 06 SC - it costs around 3-5k ..... we are not talking just sticking a badge on :rolleyes:
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Post by: Bulli on April 26, 2006, 07:53:59: I have the black and silver badges on my disco, i lost the front badge and looked on ebay and to be honest the black silver looked better than the green with the wierd colour scheme i have. 10 quid for genuine front and rear was a bargain.
As i have a 92 v8 disco im not trying to pretend or fool anyone...does that make me sad. Oh and mine CAN go nearly anywhere which IMHO is what LR's are all about...not being Chealsea tractors :wink:
sorry couldnt help that one :lol:
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 08:06:37: I think we are getting confused here - I don't give a toss if anyone has the black badges - after all - the ORIGINAL badges were black!!!

What I am baffled about is having the word "supercharged" stuck on the back of a TD6.....(oh and the cost it must have taken to revise the vehicle to make it look like something it isn't)

Speaking of going anywhere - apart from the obvious scratches - what makes you think the RR can't? I was *extremely* impressed by my previous silver one - it did stuff that my Discovery grounded it's nose on etc.
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Post by: Bulli on April 26, 2006, 08:22:25: I must say i was very impressed with the disco 3 at Billing last year, did some things that i certainly wouldn't fancy(stopping on hills). The reason that they work off road is the electronics. By the time us mere mortals can afford to use one offroad they wont work...Lr have already had some issues.
Love the car dont get me wrong , quite jealous really...but, I was involved in a charity thing at the weekend where women got a chance to drive various vehicles.We were running the 4x4 section. Several got in and straight away were on about people using 4x4 for around town and how bad it was. Nobody had a pop at me for owning my disco despite it being a fuel guzzeling monster, just goes to show Joe publics impression of modern 4x4's.
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Post by: NiceBlueWellies on April 26, 2006, 09:36:08: Quote from: "Thrasher"
"supercharged" (oh and the cost it must have taken to revise the vehicle)

Everyone has got it confused - they are telling you it did cost a lot of money, hence they were "supercharged". That is why it is on the vehicle :lol:
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Post by: davidlandy on April 26, 2006, 11:41:29: Neil

You've really done it now , Jimbob has said that he will give you a race on the road in his Subaru impreza turbo and then challenge you to a mudfest against his 90 off road and will (I think this is how you spell it) "...wopp your a**e there as well" :shock:

I requested that he checks all his badges to ensure that they are all authentic and represent the real thing. :wink:
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Post by: dazzawhipple on April 26, 2006, 11:52:47: Fight Fight Fight :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 11:56:01: Quote from: "davidlandy"
Neil

You've really done it now , Jimbob has said that he will give you a race on the road in his Subaru impreza turbo and then challenge you to a mudfest against his 90 off road and will (I think this is how you spell it) "...wopp your a**e there as well" :shock:

I requested that he checks all his badges to ensure that they are all authentic and represent the real thing. :wink:

Sounds good, I'll get him on a rally track and show him why Audi got banned from WRC :) Just complete the parcel as it were ;)

Thats the Subaru, not Bagheera. Some of the things I've one on track would result in a bend with a trail of 4x4 parts then a few hundred yards away, a seriously dead looking 4x4 :)

The rmeark about the chavs I can relate to as well. the Audi is just marked up as 'Audi 90' Its when I rev the engine the chavs start to realise they may have bitten off more than they can chew. Like a V8, 5Cyl turbo has a unique sound :)
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Post by: davidlandy on April 26, 2006, 12:01:53: those 5 cylinder engines do sound nice dont they :D

even the mediocre 5 cyl volvos sound nice...let alone in a performance Audi!

I dont think Jimbobs motor is rally prepared one - its a tad low. but on a normal tarmac track he will give you a run for your money. If I was a betting person I wouldn't place want to place any money on the Audi (but then I dont know the spec).

:wink:

Mud club track day may be in order

I shall prepare my TDI passat!!!!!
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 12:06:15: I'll race the Imprezza if it adds in weight to bring it up to 2.8 tons - let's make it fair huh?

And I'll only play against the 90 if it's stripped to standard and wearing road tyres :-) Oh and if there's no nasty scratchy stuff nearby :-)

*PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT CONDONE ROAD RACING*

So...jokes over :-)
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Post by: ian_s on April 26, 2006, 12:38:36: Quote from: "Thrasher"
*PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT CONDONE ROAD RACING*
I wonder when the next track day is at Donnington?
that would be fun.
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 13:18:07: Quote from: "davidlandy"
those 5 cylinder engines do sound nice dont they :D

If I was a betting person I wouldn't place want to place any money on the Audi (but then I dont know the spec).

:wink:

Mud club track day may be in order

I shall prepare my TDI passat!!!!!

Its had two STi's already :)
2.5lt KE Jetronic, Luminition ECU remapped bu Audi Autosport, Ports exhaust also Audi specced for performance, not for noise like most. Garatt T34 turbo. Basically Imagine an RS2 without the bodywork :) Oh, and except the Exhaust/turbo, it came like that from the dealer 16 years ago badged as an Audi 80.
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Post by: Mace on April 26, 2006, 13:27:53: Quote from: "Thrasher"
I'll race the Imprezza if it adds in weight to bring it up to 2.8 tons - let's make it fair huh?

It would only be fair if the power - weight ratio was the same. Not weight - weight !!

As for sticking badges on vehicles, how does your arguement against this differ from those who argue with you over your right to drive a gas-guzzler when you don't really need one? Freedom of choice is what you preach, why can't someone else have that freedom too? Pretending to be something else and spending several thousand pound in the process is entirely up to them, it just so happens you don't agree. Fair enough, but you get very defensive when someone questions your freedom of choice. Leave it alone Neil, it's not important :D
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 13:35:39: This is ace. I can't understand why people pretend they have something they haven't and I get branded all sorts of things!!! Anyone here tempted to rip off their TDi badges and stick on V8 ones? Nope ... thought not.

Mace...bit baffled - freedom of choice is fine. Why LIE about something tho? Oddness. If I tried it on with the tax man I'm sure he'd beleive me if I badged all my V8's as TDi's.....

Maybe I'm interdimensionally challenged.

So.....YOU LOT can log on to Carbage on the Top Gear site and NOT LAUGH at the sad attempts at pretending to be something their not. I however, can laugh :roll:

P.S. Dave - just to make Mr Mace happy - what is the BHP and Torque of the Imprezza we are talking about - just do I can adjust the weighting a tadge.....

*EDIT* Just founf this :

Subaru Impreza WRX sedan - H4 2.5L DOHC turbo (230 hp) 4A + ABS 0 -60 6.55seconds

Some .5 of a second faster than mine.... and it's a damn sight lighter...at 3192lbs versus the Range Rover at 6724lbs.....

Assuming we just divide the weight by the BHP :

Subaru - 13.88
Range Rover - 16.98

Not actually sure what that means :-)
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Post by: Mace on April 26, 2006, 14:05:41: Ok this is funny. I'll put me money where my mouth is....

Power to weight ratios: (what car figures)

Imprezza 227 bhp - 1410kg = 1:5.2
Range R SC 400 bhp - 2483kg = 1:5.2
Imprezza 236 lbft - 1410kg = 1:4.9
Range R SC 420 lbft - 2483kg = 1:4.9

Spooky eh? Hey I'm not that sure of my maths tho' :lol: <editted several times>

No handicap required :lol: :lol:

Quote from: "Thrasher"
Mace...bit baffled - freedom of choice is fine. Why LIE about something tho?

Because that's what people do Neil. So you now want to take away someones freedom to lie? or is it you just don't understand why people lie? Doesn't make them any less human than you or I.
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 14:11:55: Quote from: "Thrasher"

*EDIT* Just founf this :

Subaru Impreza WRX sedan - H4 2.5L DOHC turbo (230 hp) 4A + ABS 0 -60 6.55seconds

Some .5 of a second faster than mine.... and it's a damn sight lighter...at 3192lbs versus the Range Rover at 6724lbs.....

Assuming we just divide the weight by the BHP :

Subaru - 13.88
Range Rover - 16.98

Not actually sure what that means :-)

Something wrong with that. The Audi weighs in at 2500lbs standard and I KNOW its much heavier than an Impretza. as she stands now its lighter and more powerful than factors spec but shouls still be heavier than a 5 year old Scooby.

These calcualtions dont mean anything anyway, guessing the Scooby is manual so thats a good few 10ths of a second per gearchange vs, err, few 100 uSec for the Rangie :) Plus gearing isnt factored in here either, my pull away is slower as my 1st gear seems to be designed for towing a tank, in fact the car often gets treated as a 4 speed and never put in 1st. 3rd gear its case of plant it and hope you dont run out of road/fuel ebfore you can pull yourself out the seat again, very few cars will pull quite like that in third.

No point comparing a rangine VS a Scoobie at all, IMHO its pointless, as hinted at already, the audi and the scooby will take tight corners at speeds that just defy beleive, the range would flip over. On the other hand, I wouldnt start at one crner of a ploughed feild, plant it and expect to be alive at the other side, unlike the rangie.

As for the badges, driving a car that has no offical designation I've plopped for the badges closest to what it really is but I had the choice. Its great when someone thinks its a standard car and gets their ass kicked, but reversed, say an RS4 badge, no point. People that know the cars, like thrasher (Or Myself with Audis) can spot a rebadged car from miles away and we'll just laugh. Make sure what you stick the badge on can back it up otherwise you look a prat when it cant.

On the whole though, you are free to do what you like :) Did think about giving Rabbit a V8 badge for a laugh ;)
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 14:13:05: Interesting ;-)

However ... can only find 2,570kg as a weight for the 4.4 - no weight given for the 4.2SC (which I assume is heavier as the spec is higher and the interior is different...) - and I used the gross before (doh!) which is 3050kg.

Now of course...the only thing left is .... where does the power and torque cut in on the Imprezza?

4.2 :

291kW/5750rpm
560Nm/3500rpm
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 14:14:33: I agree with Rich :-)

Can we do the power/weight ratio for the thing that was badged up tho? <grin>

0-60 test - of course I elect to use LOW BOX ;-)
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 14:20:26: Quote from: "Thrasher"
Interesting ;-)

However ... can only find 2,570kg as a weight for the 4.4 - no weight given for the 4.2SC (which I assume is heavier as the spec is higher and the interior is different...) - and I used the gross before (doh!) which is 3050kg.

Now of course...the only thing left is .... where does the power and torque cut in on the Imprezza?

4.2 :

291kW/5750rpm
560Nm/3500rpm

Audi is setup for close to max (227BHP) from 2700 through to 5000 No idea what the Nm figures and actual true range are without the dyno printout. We tried to get it arranged so that we had max contiunous power, I can get it mapped again for a higher output at the cost of having two narrow power bands.
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Post by: Mace on April 26, 2006, 14:24:53: Quote from: "Thrasher"
However ... can only find 2,570kg as a weight for the 4.4 - no weight given for the 4.2SC (which I assume is heavier as the spec is higher and the interior is different...) - and I used the gross before (doh!) which is 3050kg.

http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-review-performance.aspx?RT=418&ED=47098&U=0

2483kg .... what car quote the same for both models !!!
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Post by: woody on April 26, 2006, 14:26:33: Quote from: "Mace"

Quote from: "Thrasher"
Mace...bit baffled - freedom of choice is fine. Why LIE about something tho?

Because that's what people do Neil. So you now want to take away someones freedom to lie? or is it you just don't understand why people lie? Doesn't make them any less human than you or I.

people who lie are a**h*les
people who lie well are politicians :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 14:29:03: I got my figures from Land Rover ;-)

But then.....
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Post by: davidlandy on April 26, 2006, 14:32:11: hmmm..

not sure what the power outputs of Jimbobs motor is as its been tweaked - but its quicker to 60 than the book says and the numbers being quoted above. he is 'in' with the scooby and Evo lads and all they do try to get the edge on each other for speed!!!! even somehow get extra speed by putting sparkplugs in the exhaust tail pipes to spit flames at the opposition!!!

rahter than just start to complicate things with power to weight ratios just let the test track decide! these are two very different motors, if the RR lost even at the same weight there would then be debbate over gear ratios, bhp lost thru tranmissions, aerodynamics...etc..etc..
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 14:33:20: Aerodynamics - Land Rover

Now THAT is an Oxymoron ;-)
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Post by: Mace on April 26, 2006, 14:33:54: The sadness <mine> continues...

With the Imprezza you get 1 bhp for each Ã‚Â£93 spent on purchase price
With the R R SC you get 1 bhp for Ã‚Â£173 spent on purchase price

Tee hee
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Post by: davidlandy on April 26, 2006, 14:40:05: Just noticed from that whatcar website that my diesel passat has the same quoted top speed as the RRSC...130mph :shock:
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Post by: muddyweb on April 26, 2006, 14:47:05: What I think is quite sad is that this seems to have turned into a 'my dad is bigger than yours' discussion.

I'll stick to the Series 3 I think... 68 bhp, 4 throbbing cylinders and a happy look on my face :lol:
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Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on April 26, 2006, 15:04:41: well iam of the thinking, your car is what it is, you make yourself look daft by putting a different badge on it.
of course its you lots own choice if you do that, but you will go down in my estimation!

even if its the best replica in the world, its still not like owning the real thing.
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 15:29:20: Quote from: "muddyweb"
What I think is quite sad is that this seems to have turned into a 'my dad is bigger than yours' discussion.

I'll stick to the Series 3 I think... 68 bhp, 4 throbbing cylinders and a happy look on my face :lol:

Its a car based forum, it will always happen:)

What is interesting is that looking over the figures they are all over the place, even the stock figures for mine vary worringly, one site give engine output as 130bhp, nother 155, Audi as 170 and someplace is was the RS2 engine being quoted at 450. Same with the weights on all three cars and I think neil just found a glaring error on Rover's own information in that vein.
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Post by: strapping young lad on April 26, 2006, 15:45:20: Quote from: "davidlandy"
Just noticed from that whatcar website that my diesel passat has the same quoted top speed as the RRSC...130mph :shock:

hmm

my 4k galant goes faster than that ;)
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Post by: Mace on April 26, 2006, 16:36:51: Quote from: "muddyweb"
What I think is quite sad is that this seems to have turned into a 'my dad is bigger than yours' discussion.

Oh, and there's me thinking it was a 'my badge is better than your badge' discussion :lol:

Hands up those who are actually taking this thread seriously. All these facts and figures just don't mean a thing, tiz all nonsense as 5th Gear once proved by racing a RR Sport against a horse. Lets move the thread to Jokes & Funnies, well I think it's funny ! :lol: :lol: It reminds me of the last <impossible> mud-club challenge...the bog hill challenge, this time it's the squeely wheel challange. It'll never happen. *sigh*
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 16:38:56: Lot of cars its limited at 120/130. mThere is an unoffical 'gentlemans agreement' that that should be the max speed of normal cars produced by most manufacturers.

Its normally trivial to defeat. On non Monotronic a4/b4 chassis Audis, its actually a switch on the back of the dash! Probobly applies to VW and SEAT cars of that age too.
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 16:40:40: The "Gentlemens Agreement" you talk of is usually 155 with the Exec motors, but can be over-riden via the ECU.

And Evilgoat, if you ever fancy selling the Audi lety me know :D it sounds fantastic.
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 16:45:29: VAGcom will do it for you on most VAG cars :)

I've always found it set to 120 though, almost all Audis are restricted at that point IIRC, will have to have a word with the lot that look after mine.

As for the car. There are two Similarly built non-existant V8 90Tqs about. 4.2Lt engine as used in the newer S-Line cars. one roadworthy the other keeps breaking bits as the drivetrain wasnt uprated. I think the owner finally gave up after warping the rear diff moounts etc.
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 17:51:46: FYI - Engine is limited *electronically* to 130mph at 3500rpm (from memory - so could be wrong) - so there's lots left after the limiter. Same engine in RR Sport is limited to 140mph.

Tyres are the main concern for such heavy cars at such high speeds.
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 17:55:44: Plus the fact I wouldn't like to be the person doing 130 in a Range Rover to be totally honest - 90 In a Citroen Van scared me.
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 18:13:01: It feels like 70mph. That's the worrying thing.
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 18:25:31: Quote from: "Thrasher"
It feels like 70mph. That's the worrying thing.

Aye, is one speaking from experience here? :lol:
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 18:31:05: Strictly on a run-way ;-)

I seem to recall even Datalas got my old one nudging a ton on the airstrip...and he's a slow driver ;-)
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 18:33:21: 130 in something that's less Aerodynamic then my Bungalow.. You sir, are a !*****! Lucky Person ;)
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Post by: Evilgoat on April 26, 2006, 18:34:57: 80mph in Rabbit feels like Mach 9, well untill you get overtaken by a saxo.

I keep thinking I'm cruising at 70 on the Mway and realising I'm doing 45!
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 18:35:53: My Dads van, 90 doesn't feel like 90, but the Engine screams like it's pushing the sound barrier... Gotta love the un turbocharged 1.9! Still, it's a Proven off roader.
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 18:48:27: I had a 90 van and a 90 Lara Croft on loan, one after the other. At 90 - you could not hear ANYTHING in the van....well anything other than the engine! However - after laughing at the bolt on aircon and CD player - if you turned it up REALLY loud in the Lara Croft - you could almost make out the tune ;-)

The sound proofing does make a big difference!
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Post by: bezzabsa on April 26, 2006, 18:58:12: if we are doing a 'test ' ;) can i bring my bike :D:D:D
0-60 approx 4 seconds.. top speed 130...cost Ã‚Â£3499 BRAND new :D:D
i can also bring the series 3.. 0-60 ??????? top speed...erm.....
:D:D :lol:
could be fun .. a real RUN WOT YOU BRUNG a-la MUDCLUB ;)
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Post by: Thrasher on April 26, 2006, 19:00:00: We tried to organise one of those at Santapod - but it rained and they wouldn't let us play :(
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 19:04:30: Quote from: "bezzabsa"
if we are doing a 'test ' ;) can i bring my bike :D:D:D
0-60 approx 4 seconds.. top speed 130...cost Ã‚Â£3499 BRAND new :D:D
i can also bring the series 3.. 0-60 ??????? top speed...erm.....
:D:D :lol:
could be fun .. a real RUN WOT YOU BRUNG a-la MUDCLUB ;)

Reckon I could take Thrasher on with my pushbike? :D
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Post by: Hightower on April 26, 2006, 19:42:05: Quote from: "Thrasher"
Strictly on a run-way

/me gets out his plane spotters gear and sits by the side of the A45 waiting for them to land . . . .

:wink:
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Post by: colintandy on April 26, 2006, 19:45:44: :wink: im sticking with DIESEL .....aquamist nitros injected :roll: or somethink with a go faster ....badge... :D
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Post by: dew1911 on April 26, 2006, 19:47:00: Quote from: "Hightower"
Quote from: "Thrasher"
Strictly on a run-way

/me gets out his plane spotters gear and sits by the side of the A45 waiting for them to land . . . .

:wink:

Bloomin' RR Coming down would break the Tarmac me thinks.
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Post by: Jake on April 26, 2006, 20:16:57: Quote from: "Hightower"
Quote from: "Thrasher"
Strictly on a run-way

/me gets out his plane spotters gear and sits by the side of the A45 waiting for them to land . . . . :wink:

And i'll be there with my camera
Spotted at 130mph...
:lol:
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Post by: Manicminer on April 26, 2006, 20:20:48: Quote from: "Thrasher"
It feels like 70mph. That's the worrying thing.

Travelling at 125 - 130 mph in my modified SD1 V8 would give you the same feeling you would have at 50 mph in a Cavalier. It doesn't feel *that* fast.

I could stop from 150 mph quicker than the Cavalier from 60 mph.
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Post by: Grant on April 26, 2006, 20:51:10: they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. those TD6 drivers wish they had a big throbbing V8 under the bonnet and all they got was a lousy badge!

to be honest im a bit jealous of the lucky sods with Holland & Hollands but will i stick the badge on my boot? No, anyone who knows what the badge means will know i'm faking it and think im a complete t***

So there! :wink:
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Post by: davidlandy on April 26, 2006, 22:33:55: Quote from: "grant"
they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. those TD6 drivers wish they had a big throbbing V8 under the bonnet and all they got was a lousy badge!

to be honest im a bit jealous of the lucky sods with Holland & Hollands but will i stick the badge on my boot? No, anyone who knows what the badge means will know i'm faking it and think im a complete t***

So there! :wink:

and there are out those that dont know and think that you have something better that you really do - the original question was are people sad for doing this?
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Post by: colintandy on April 26, 2006, 23:01:11: :roll: we all guilty of it in our lives...lets start a SAD CLUB the sacasam and denial club :wink: