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Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on February 07, 2006, 15:14:20
A workable & reliable combination?

Admittedly there's not that many stockists near me, but on occassions I venture towards York & there's a supplier at the side of the A64 (http://uk.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=464500.99999932&Y=456000.959772535&width=500&height=300&gride=464399.99999932&gridn=456099.959772535&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=grid&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=true&zm=1&scale=25000)

I'd filled the Discovery up a few times there when passing, but when I've passed I don't think I've ever seen a Td5 (Defender, or, Discovery) in there - it maybe just the timing, but.........

Are there any issues with the Electronic injectors (& pump?) on a Td5 that inhibits useage of Bio-Diesel?????
If I perhaps operate at a 50 - 50 mix with regular pump diesel?


As I'm going that way next Wednesday & it's a fair bit cheaper
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: beast5680 on February 07, 2006, 15:42:19
well i dont know if there are any issues but we have a customer who says he uses it all the time in his td5 disco :?
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: Jimbo on February 07, 2006, 19:38:07
There's a producer local to me, so far everyone I've asked reckons that it shouldn't cause any problems in a Td5

Anyone in the trade (Mikee where are you) care to comment ?

Jim
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: Hightower on February 07, 2006, 19:40:55
Strange.  I'm sure I read somewhere not to use bio in a TD5.

I'll try and find the article again . . . . . . . .
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: ChrisW on February 07, 2006, 19:44:34
It's a bit of a mixed bad according to google and 'td5 biodiesel'  :wink:
There appears to be some talk of invalidating LR warranty if it is used  :?
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: Jimbo on February 07, 2006, 19:56:54
Quote from: "ChrisW70"
It's a bit of a mixed bad according to google and 'td5 biodiesel'  :wink:
There appears to be some talk of invalidating LR warranty if it is used  :?


But if the warranty has expired.......

Shame if Td5's can't hack biodiesel, they only want 80p/litre at the place near me - beats the 95p I had to pay t'other day (only put a few quids worth in though, just enough to get to the cheaper garage)

Jim
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: Xtremeteam on February 07, 2006, 22:59:17
TD5's & bio along with Td4's is well not the best idea


so far seen a TD4 need 2 fuel pumps in 2 weeks after running on bio (or VO & diesel mix)

the older tdis with mechanical pumps run fine on the stuff but not so sure about the newer stuff with the lecky fuel pumps

JMO
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: rollazuki on February 08, 2006, 08:17:49
BEWARE.
I cant comment on Landrover TD5 products, but Ive seen many problems with it in other cars.
I work in a Hyundai , and Toyota main dealer, and Ive seen several cars that have run on Bio and have destroyed the lift pump in the tank.
We dont know why, maybe its thicker , or partially seperates in the tank, but Bio was definitely at fault.
The newer diesels dont even like the addition of Kerosene, destroys the high pressure pump.
IMHO Id only run an older 'traditional' type diesel on bio, the newer ones with direct injection seem far more delicate........
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on February 08, 2006, 09:25:13
Bum!

After forking out for a new tank sender/pump recently, I'm not in the mood to do that again :evil:
Title: Td5 & Bio-Diesel?
Post by: TULL on February 09, 2006, 12:48:36
so i assume my old TD would run fine?
Title: Bio Diesel
Post by: Green Machine on February 09, 2006, 18:29:33
I've been looking into the feasability of producing my own Bio-diesel, so i've done a lot of reading up on it. As far as I can tell theres a HUGE difference between real Bio-diesel and straight Veg Oil (SVO) and many people get the two confused. Veg oil on its own will work in a diesel engine but if its cold enough it will be to thick to be pumped.
Bio is made from mixing Caustic Soda and methanol to the Veg oil then washing it all through to remove any soapy deposits.
So if the process isn't carried out accuratly enough it can cause probs, So it depends if you trust the source of the Bio :lol:
I'm still trying to work out if its a worthwile business venture :wink:

Gary.
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