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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: petergalileo on January 27, 2006, 07:35:08
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Is there anything that can be done to a set of Disco 3 headlamps (RHD) to convert them to LHD ?
Normally when driving abroad you get a sticker to put on the headlamp does this work in reverse ?
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Yes they used to do the kits, or a black blind spot stuck on too.
I think now that they also do an overlay with plastic that can bend the light the correct way with the lensing in it
If you are planning a few trips abroad it maybe worth looking around for a lhd set spare second hand, you may strike lucky
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Looks like there are some on the market to suit you there
http://www.fasteronline.co.uk/Metro-beam-benders-clear-p-721.html?osCsid=019c66893b88c03d44b928d2bb67eb64
http://www.fasteronline.co.uk/Metro-super-beam-bender-p-723.html?osCsid=e2918e10b382c49993b9339e6251b78d
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPER-BEAM-BENDERS-HEADLAMP-CONVERTORS-4-USE-IN-EUROPE_W0QQitemZ8000325349QQcategoryZ9885QQcmdZViewItem
Or these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-HEADLIGHTS-BN-LHD_W0QQitemZ4608078027QQcategoryZ31348QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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mmm, idea was to bend the beam the UK way from a pair of non UK headlamps, but I suppose with those metro products ones you could just put them on the other way round.
I have (or will shortly) be getting a pair of Disco 3 headlamps, I am completely deranged and am going to try and fit them onto my Discovery 1. I purchased the lights (bargain from ebay) but realised they are for RHD countries. I thought what I would do is assuming I can get them to fit at all, I would use them with beam benders till I can get a pair of UK spec ones.
The I will Auction the RHD lights on Ebay france or another RHD country.
Lights were £100 for the pair and included the HID bulbs.
By the way, A stretch discovery sounds interesting, any pictures ?
Peter (upgrade mad)
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Have a look in my pics :wink:
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mmm, idea was to bend the beam the UK way from a pair of non UK headlamps, but I suppose with those metro products ones you could just put them on the other way round.
I have (or will shortly) be getting a pair of Disco 3 headlamps, I am completely deranged and am going to try and fit them onto my Discovery 1. I purchased the lights (bargain from ebay) but realised they are for RHD countries. I thought what I would do is assuming I can get them to fit at all, I would use them with beam benders till I can get a pair of UK spec ones.
The I will Auction the RHD lights on Ebay france or another RHD country.
Lights were £100 for the pair and included the HID bulbs.
By the way, A stretch discovery sounds interesting, any pictures ?
Peter (upgrade mad)
can i just ask incase ive missed something but you are planning on fitting a pair of RHD disco 3 headlights into you Disco 1? which is also RHD?
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RHD - Driving on the right hand side of the road
LHD - Driving on the left hand side of the road.
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Peter - I hope you realise that you must fit headlamp washers and *SELF LEVELLING* capability to the vehicle to run with HID Xenon lamps. You are in violation of C&U, SVA and I think MOT rules if you do not.
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Peter - I hope you realise that you must fit headlamp washers and *SELF LEVELLING* capability to the vehicle to run with HID Xenon lamps. You are in violation of C&U, SVA and I think MOT rules if you do not.
there is that aswell,to get the lights to work i think then need a ballast box & ECU doofer
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Washers...got those. Self leveling...mmm...thats an idea, will have a think about that, I reckon its dooable.
But I didnt realise HID lights were to be treated any different to standard lights, but seeing as they are mega bright it seems reasonable that they could be, will have to look into it.
I dont actually think the disco will be able to accomodate them anyway, but I am going to have a good go at it !
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Ballast resistor isnt a problem, ecu to control self leveling might be a but beyond my elecronics skills though :)
Well, if worst comes to the worst I can list them on ebay france or something and easily get the money back but I reckon they would look great on my disco 1.
Maybe I should have stuck to my original idea to put disco 2 lights and grill on instead.
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Peter - I hope you realise that you must fit headlamp washers and *SELF LEVELLING* capability to the vehicle to run with HID Xenon lamps. You are in violation of C&U, SVA and I think MOT rules if you do not.
i,m gonna regret this but Why???
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Dazzle
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why the washers then?
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Same reason - essentially to do with the light dispersion
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A MOT tester wouldnt pick up on that as long as the light pattern was correct.
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the ECU isnt for the self leveling IIRC,its for making the lights work
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well at the end of the day, even an HID bulb works the same as any other bulb surely. If they are self leveling maybe thats built into the headlamp unit (I say that with my fingers crossed of course :roll: )
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Are they definitely Xenon ones? Some models come with Halogens
Assuming they are Xenons and you sort out the other issues there is a switch inside to convert them for LHD or RHD. This might be true for Halogen ones too
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they are here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4607518056
Switch inside the headlamp unit ?
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They're Halogens, Xenons look like this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4607286776) (and don't bid on it please coz I am, besides it's an adaptive one and you really don't want to complicate things any more :wink: )
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so do the halogens have the switch ? are they still HID ? do I need self leveling ?
You seem to know a lot about them !
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the halogens are just plain 65w bulbs,& should be easy enough to wire in,its just fitting ther lights will be the problem as they are huge
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ok, thats a releif. Lights are huge but I am guessing they are about the same size as the headlight and indicator surround on the disco 1. I am guessing I am going to have to do quite a bit of modification to get them in there but will have to see.
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so do the halogens have the switch ?
Dunno, I'll have a look in the manual
are they still HID ?
Nope
do I need self leveling ?
Yes, coil sprung D3s come with a normal level adjuster, on air sprung ones the lights are levelled along with the suspension
You seem to know a lot about them !
Click the D3 in my sig :D
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Manual only mentions the switch for Xenons so I presume Halogens are sticker job
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Well I will check them out when they arrive, thanks for the info.
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Well lights have arrived, they turned out to be UK ones anyway !
However, crikey they are absolutely gigantic ! I shall be investigating the possibility of fitting them to the disco 1 but I doubt its possible without a whole load of welding !
Peter
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Are they definitely Xenon ones? Some models come with Halogens
Assuming they are Xenons and you sort out the other issues there is a switch inside to convert them for LHD or RHD. This might be true for Halogen ones too
No don't start confusing the issue.. Zenon is a halogen, it is used in modern bulbs (whether you pay extra or not :wink: ) instead of Iodine which was the common halogen untill recently./
HID is the new gas discharge sytem that high-end cars like BMW and Range Rover have, it works like a strip lamp but requires IIRC 90v to work properly so on a 12v car you need a box of trick to step the voltage up, this is not normally part of the lamp.
Don't know about the C&U stuff for these but the 'self' leveler? do you mean hight-adjustable headlamps, operable from the driver's seat. I can understand why this is necessary but I can't imagine it would be automatic.
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well at the end of the day, even an HID bulb works the same as any other bulb surely.
No.. completely different..
The 'D' in HID stands for 'Discharge'... that's a brightly burning Arc in the glass envelope and needs high voltages to operate. Hence the need for a starter and ballast.
A 'normal' lamp is incandescent... i.e. a bit of wire gets hot and glows. and just needs sufficent current to get hot enough.
If you connect 12V to the HID lamp... it won't do much at all.