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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Bush Tucker Man on January 19, 2006, 12:10:18
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Due to having a distrust of the jump-leads arcing out against the battery-box, I've accumulated a few pairs of 'Anderson Plugs' (http://www.ccpowerltd.co.uk/batteryplugs.htm) in the larger sizes.
My jump-leads are very 'heavy-duty' (you'd tow a truck with them, let alone start one :lol: :lol:
So shortly I'll be getting a pair of 'flying tail' cables crimped up (either at the welding suppliers in Wakefield, or by father-in-law at the bus garage) & mounting them somewhere.
Now the question is, where?
For ease (& shortest cable run), the obvious point is onto the front of the seat-box, under the latch, but.. it's something to catch for your passenger to catch themselves on.
Front-Mount?
Logical place is same as RAC had on their Discoverys, on top of bumper & fill the rear of the plug with silicone (plus internal cut-out??)
Vehicle being 'jumped' can be illuminated by headlights
Easier manoeuvring to point of use?
Inside engine bay on an inner wing??
Rear-Mount?
Can be illuminated by worklamp?
Can be utilised for a 'PTO' if an electro-hydraulic tipper trailer is hired?
'Ditto' for a trailer mounted winch.
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To save a long cable run, I was planning on fitting my Anderson plug (didn't know they were called that) either to the side of the passenger seat box, or just behind the pasenger seat - but then mine is a HT !
I guess if you keep the cable run really short (ie, mount the plug on the seat box), you need not mess about with internal cut-out switches ?
Jim
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We have them on the front of the seatbox in the 90, and to be honest you'd have had to have badly crashed to have your heels that far back naturally. My hybrid has the fire extinguisher in that position and the valve has never been kicked off. So i'd say put them on the front of the seat box on the pass side (front of battery box) facing side ways towards the door.
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So i'd say put them on the front of the seat box on the pass side (front of battery box) facing side ways towards the door.
That's where I've fitted mine and haven't had any problems to date, seems to be tucked well enough out of the way. Your welcome to have a look anytime.
Dave
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I had them fitted to my 110. Can i just say that fitting them inside, isnt the best place. Only reason i say,is if for any reason you cant get the door open, it makes them very hard to use. :)
(P.S. I must put them back on.)
Dont forget to fuse them well.
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What size fuse though ????, as the plugs are there for jump-starting another vehicle, or being jump-started yourself - surely a fuse in the circuit would have to be sub-station sized :shock:
Jim
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The same as all electrical circuits.
Slightly lower rating, than the lowest rated component.
I.E. 10 amp cable, 8 amp fuse.
P.S. I know 10 amps is not enough for starter cables, im just using it as an example. :)
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Dont forget to fuse them well.
What size fuse though ????, as the plugs are there for jump-starting another vehicle, or being jump-started yourself - surely a fuse in the circuit would have to be sub-station sized
You bet me to it, I meant to so this last night.
I'll guess that extremely large capacity fuses are available that don't offer too much resistance for 12v operation, but when the cables are probably rated at about 300amp (continuous useage) the fuse will need to be big.
Besides, the terminals will need to be a fair size as well.
I'm not too sure if this image shows the scale of the cables I use, they're also (I'm sure) 5yards long
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Am I missing something? :?
Why would you need to fuse this? You don't usually put an in line fuse in when jump starting cars do you?
Regards
H
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Am I missing something? :?
Why would you need to fuse this? You don't usually put an in line fuse in when jump starting cars do you?
Regards
H
Thats if you only use them for starting. Why could you not use it to power an extarnal winch, or lighting etc.
You could actually run inverters and such like aswell. :D
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By the way. What are the size/rating of the plugs??
http://www.newbatterycharger.com/chargerplugs/
Make sure they are big enough.
Also. They are better soldered rather than crimped. :)
We use them alot at work, on large chargers and such like.
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By the way. What are the size/rating of the plugs??
http://www.newbatterycharger.com/chargerplugs/
The big ones
Also. They are better soldered rather than crimped. :)
We use them alot at work, on large chargers and such like.
Thanks I'll bear that in mind, we see the fork-lift service guys sometimes as they come to service the various electrical vehicles that operate inside & outside the buildings
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Well, at long last I had them crimped a few weeks ago courtesy of a 'sparkie' at one of the local bus depots.
Seeing as I'd got a bit of a 'niggle' in the back of my right thigh & thus deciding not to go out on the bike, I set to & fit them
The 'Pig-Tail' has been connected for a couple of weeks, but that would have still meant messing about asking a passenger to vacate the seat (Sods Law, it'd be the wife & raining :lol: )
Click in pic to enlarge
(http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/63/463/9/28/25/2423928250047309372qUXCQl_th.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2423928250047309372qUXCQl)
Just need to get a bit of 'edging trim' for the cut-out
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Ive got mine attached to the heater box on the right hand side of the engine bay at the top.
The cables are connected straight to the starter motor.
Ive jumped mine, and started a few others with no problems.
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Ive got mine attached to the heater box on the right hand side of the engine bay at the top.
The cables are connected straight to the starter motor.
Ive jumped mine, and started a few others with no problems.
Good idea that, might copy you one day.
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This is mine
(http://images105.fotki.com/v456/photos/3/386139/1365092/Image051-vi.jpg)
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It wouldn't have occurred to me to put a 200a fuse in. In fact I didn't even know they existed until I just googled it. Do people put fuses in their winch wiring, or starter motor wiring? :?
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You dont have a fuse on a set of jump leads.....
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Where would I get a set made up? I've already got the plugs on my car courtesy of the demountable winch.
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X-eng sell them (http://www.x-eng.co.uk/X-Jump.asp?MID=37) if you're feeling wealthy.
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I bought a set of halfords jump leads, the ones that come in a blue box - they are heavey duty for about £20, cut the ends from one end, and crimped on a plug i bought of ebay for about a tenner.
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fill the rear of the plug with silicone
I have seen someone online selling proper rubber boots that fit over the back of the plugs and the wires - keep meaning to get some for my Anderson connectors.
(http://i2.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/9f/8b/b1ee_1.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WEATHERPROOF-BOOT-FOR-SB-175AMP-BATTERY-PLUG_W0QQitemZ170163794792QQihZ007QQcategoryZ108854QQcmdZViewItem
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why not fit them in the power line for a winch at the front that way all you do is un plug your winch and conect the jumpleads keeping it all neet and tidy
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Great idea about putting them direct on starter. I put mine to battery and fitted to front passenger seatbox, pillock though I didn't put the plug far enough back so I could fit a standard charger without leaving the door open. I have a spare 175amp plug so will make up a set under bonnet.
Demon Tweeks are another source for the rubber boots - ebay blokey might have them also. Paid about 5 quid per half.
Cheers
Gavin
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Forgot to add this :oops:
Sorry.
I sorted them out a couple of week ago
Click on pic to enlarge
(http://thumb12.webshots.net/t/58/558/7/74/25/2101774250047309372OwOAtC_th.jpg) (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2101774250047309372OwOAtC)
I've tidied up the edges a bit, with some strip since taking that image