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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: disco 200 on January 03, 2006, 22:52:15

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: disco 200 on January 03, 2006, 22:52:15

Just about to get some of the INSA TURBO DAKAR which have same pattern as BFG mud. I know there are conflicting views about using remoulds, but has anybody tried them, and if so what are they like?
If not I'll probably try Tecnic Amazons. Any views on these also please? :?:

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: beast5680 on January 03, 2006, 22:56:54

i think the consensus on remould copies will be to check the speed rating etc
technic amazons i had on my V8 were an excellent tyre off road and on road i found not too noisy

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: Wanderer on January 03, 2006, 23:07:49

I ran Technics Amazons for ages but moved to BFG MT.
If they did a Amazon in 235 85 16 I might have stopped with them.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: simdeb on January 04, 2006, 13:04:58

INSA TURBO DAKAR  on my motor done about 3000 on them and ok so far not sure about how long they will last , had broncos on last and they are a bettter tyre .

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: GADGETP38 on January 04, 2006, 17:20:16

I have ran colway Mts and all terrains , both of which are copies of bfgs.
I now run bfgs but only because funds allowed it this time. The Colways are rated to 100mph which I am sure is more than enough.  
I did almost 3000 miles through France, Italy and Switz in 2003 with them on in that summer with mega-high temps.  We ran all day some days in temps of 40 degrees and at 70 mph and the colways were xlent!

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: robbie on January 04, 2006, 23:56:13

I too can hold the flag up for Colways. I have done around 10k on them now (AT's) with no problems.

The benefit is of course that theya re cheaper to replace should you knacker one up whilst off roading :D  always a bonus
 8)

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: DISCO-CHRIS on January 05, 2006, 00:39:55

AMAZONS  over colways any day! use to fit remoulds a few years ago and that was enough to put me of them.
lots came back out of shape or twisted some even started to peel away!!always a [!Expletive Deleted!] to balance up too!
what size amazons you thinking of?

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: GADGETP38 on January 05, 2006, 08:10:55

Amazons are remoulds you know?!

I had some on my H reg v8 disco for a period and they were ok other than they were noisier on road than the colway MTs and didn't seem as good in the gloopy stuff.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: fish on January 05, 2006, 21:12:39

I fitted INSA TURBO DAKAR last month on my disco, done a couple of green/white laning days and one off road day, pretty happy so far with off road perfromance. On road got bit of a steering wobble at 55mph, probably ify balancing or some other steering wear. Road noise hasn't been a problem (would have o be loud to be heard over my 200tdi motor!)

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 06, 2006, 01:42:58

When you can buy a brand new 3-ply mud terrain in 235/85r16 for just over £55 delivered, why buy a remould unless you really like recycling?

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: disco 200 on January 08, 2006, 10:27:43

I can only fit 235/70 16s as I haven't got a lift or anything. I thought I'd go for the Dakars as I went to Southam to have a look at some and they're exactly same as BFGs. Also I live on a main road and worry that someone might come and nick BFGs as they are so expensive and also resaleable...That's the only downside with Ebay isn't it? I bet loads of stuff on there is stolen.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: GADGETP38 on January 08, 2006, 12:02:45

You are probably right about Ebay, but I can't see the philosophy of "I won't buy the best as someone may nick it" catching on.    Why live you life as a "what ifs......." ?

I too live on a main road, but couldn't justify a purchase on those lines. Anyway, I assume you are insured?

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: muddyweb on January 08, 2006, 12:43:10

Quote from: "disco 200"

they're exactly same as BFGs.

The tread patterns might be the same, but don't fool yourself into thinking the tyres are the same.   Carcass quality, rubber compound, sidewall construction, etc. etc. etc.  all make a big difference to the tyres, how they perform and how long they last.

By the cheaper one by all means, but don't expect it to be the same as the BFG.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: GADGETP38 on January 08, 2006, 14:31:10

The carcass quality issue is nothing like it used to be years ago.
All retreads these days have to come up to all the standards of a new tyre.

Add to that the fact that the carcass on your retread may actually have started life as a far superior tyre than you could afford as new today, retreads are definately a viable alternative to buying brand new if you are on a budget.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: muddyweb on January 08, 2006, 15:27:10

Quote from: "GADGET300TDI"

Add to that the fact that the carcass on your retread may actually have started life as a far superior tyre than you could afford as new today, retreads are definately a viable alternative to buying brand new if you are on a budget.

Erm..  yes.. but that superior carcass might have already done 50K miles before you got it.

Anyway... I didn't say remoulds aren't a cheaper alternative... just that because it *looks* like a BFG, doesn't mean it is necessarily *the same* as a BFG...  which is something the remould suppliers always want you to believe.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: GADGETP38 on January 08, 2006, 17:30:46

Quote from: "muddywebAnyway... I didn't say remoulds aren't a cheaper alternative... just that because it *looks* like a BFG, doesn't mean it is necessarily *the same* as a BFG...  which is something the remould suppliers always want you to believe.[/quote

Nobody has said it was the same other than the tread pattern.
If it were the same , surely it would say BFG on the side?     :-# :roll: #-o

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: muddyweb on January 08, 2006, 17:50:38

Quote from: "disco 200"

they're exactly same as BFGs.

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: GADGETP38 on January 08, 2006, 17:53:53

:oops:

apologies

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: disco 200 on January 22, 2006, 18:28:07

here they are!

Title: BFG copies?
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on January 22, 2006, 19:08:52

Are Hankooks remoulds?

Title: INSAS
Post by: andyhubbard on January 22, 2006, 19:17:26

IF IT'S ANY USE I FITTED 265/70x16 INSA MOUNTAINS LAST YEAR ON MY DISCO AND HAD NO PROBLEMS,IN FACT ALL I GET IS PEOPLE ASKING WHERE TO GET THEM FROM-PADDOCKS.