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Vehicle & Technical => Series Land Rovers => Topic started by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 22:09:14

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 22:09:14

No yellow push down nob but another push and pull lever. What type of box is this. I have never seen one before. Is it a old box or WHAT !!!!

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Tigger on May 07, 2006, 22:11:24

Pictures ??

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 22:14:36

Well thats the problem from underneath it looks like a series box from inside its just another leaver the same a high and low just inline and set back nearer the seat..... Would have to take floors out and tunnel to get a good photo...

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Damonski on May 07, 2006, 22:36:03

Isnt the overdrive something like that ? or is there something on the PTO ?

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 22:40:15

Nope there is no overdrive I first thought that.....

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on May 07, 2006, 22:59:48

could be wrong here ( iam sure canadian al will correct me)
but its a series box with an overdrive (thats your lever) but the diff lock linkage is missing.

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 07, 2006, 23:01:15

Does one lever move front to back and one side to side . Mine does so I may have the answer .  :wink:

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 23:03:47

Both seized at the moment but I think you may be right side to side...

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 23:05:46

also it dont have a overdrive I had a look.... Series dont have a diff lock they have no diff in the box its just a permemnt lock.

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 07, 2006, 23:06:01

Sorry Mark but I dont see an overdrive and a Siii has no diff lock on the gear box  :D
Miniman , can you see where the levers are linked to .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 23:08:38

Well no but there is a like pivot on the top of the transfer case which the leaver trys to move

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on May 07, 2006, 23:09:23

Quote from: "Canada Al"

Sorry Mark but I dont see an overdrive and a Siii has no diff lock on the gear box  :D
Miniman , can you see where the levers are linked to .

very true, i thought the yellow knob locked the diff when in low ratio.
so come on then, please reveal all :?:  :lol:

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 07, 2006, 23:12:55

Well , the yellow nob releases a sleave in the transfer case nose and engages the front axle . the red nob moves a gear selector in the transfer box to give you low range .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 23:14:24

Well yes but what is the box from as its very strange...I never seen one like that before....any idea...

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on May 07, 2006, 23:15:20

do you know what arrangment this box has, and why dooes it look like the rear prop goes through the middle cross member?

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 07, 2006, 23:15:39

Oh you mean on the mistery box . It looks like the yellow nob has been modified at some time . there is not a lot of room onder that floor to do much with .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 07, 2006, 23:18:12

I,ve got to put the kids to bed now , will check later .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on May 07, 2006, 23:18:44

chow for now

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 07, 2006, 23:19:25

Quote from: "mark.yellow.series.3"

why dooes it look like the rear prop goes through the middle cross member?

Its a LWB they did have the prop go through the crossmember. Sorry I was not telling you the vehicle. It was originaly a 6 cylinder safari but now its everything and anything....

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on May 07, 2006, 23:20:19

i see

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 08, 2006, 00:01:46

Right I'm back .It looks like on the photo the red nob is now black ( this should move front to back ) and the ( now ) red nob replaces the yellow nob . I think this red nob also moves front to back . Is it in line with the black nob ? Can you see a spring which would pull the red nob toward the rear of the vehicle . ? this would return you to 2wheel drive when you go back to high range .
Spray it all with wd40 and get it moveing if you can .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 08, 2006, 00:06:46

Well because I have you interested now When I get home from fork tomorow I will take the floors out and get you some photos so you can see what I see. What I was wanting to here was it is a very rare Military box which is bullet proof...he he. I will have a picy shoot tomorrow if its not still raining cats and dogs. I have also put a post on ORRP but they for a change are stumped aswell.....

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 08, 2006, 00:09:19

Can't you do it now its only seven O,clock  :D

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 08, 2006, 16:05:56

The photos. Its defo for the 4wd high but what gearbox is this. Its a HDA2 box and outside I have a 2a box which has HDA4 on it.

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 08, 2006, 23:16:19

Can you see the gearbox number ? I think the HDA2/4 are pattern ident numbers . It still looks to me as if its a home made affair . If you can find the gearbox number I can tell you exactly what its from ( if I can find the book ) .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: TechnoTurkey on May 09, 2006, 16:00:14

Think that it is a normal gearbox with a Jeep transfer case on it (poss off a CJ6?).

Looks chrysler based to us - thanks to SamRo.

With this box you can put it into 4wd but without having the center diff being locked.  Drive to the front axle or not and then high or low.

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 09, 2006, 16:46:50

Its does not look non landrover. If I have high and low and you say a center diff where are all the leavers. A series box does not have a diff its just locked or not. When you say Jeep do you mean american jeep ?
Also what is a cj6 ?

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 10, 2006, 00:53:30

It all looks very Landrover to me .  :roll:  
 Yes , CJ referes to crysler Jeep from the USA . I am very sceptical as to this being a oddball transfer box . It simply would not fit without an adapter plate of some kind . You cannot run fulltime 4wheel drive on a series because there are hooks joints in the front axle ( not c.v joints ) and you will get the wobble of death effect . Is it a standard front axle I wonder  ? , or a range rover axle adapated to fit ( even though its  wider ) .

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Miniman on May 10, 2006, 07:51:17

Thats the next question me old china.....Have a look in my photos and there are pics of the whole vehicle... 109 Safari

Title: Series gearbox question. No yellow push down nob but another
Post by: Canada Al on May 10, 2006, 22:30:52

it all looks standard to me . I still think you have a home made four wheel drive lever . :D