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Vehicle & Technical => Series Land Rovers => Topic started by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 17, 2005, 14:52:28

Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 17, 2005, 14:52:28
The previous owner showed me how to start it, but i cant seem to do it, am a bit dense when it comes to engines.  Is there anyone in the South Cumbria area that may be able to help??

Cheers

Dan
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Damonski on December 17, 2005, 15:00:58
I take it its not as easy as turning a key ?  :wink:
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 17, 2005, 15:06:16
Nope, if only it was!  I need to rewire the starting setup eventually, but i need some help cos i have no clue!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Sharpshooter on December 17, 2005, 15:23:49
What vehicle, and what engine for a start. (No pun intended) :)
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 17, 2005, 15:27:28
Series 2a 1963 swb with a 2.25 diesel.
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on December 17, 2005, 15:39:19
should just be turn the ignition on and press the button??   Does it turn over?
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 17, 2005, 15:41:34
the ignition switch is not connected properly yet, and i dont know where the push button is, i cant find one!  Hence am hoping someone local can lend a hand! lol
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on December 17, 2005, 15:43:36
button on mine is central lower dash, just above trans cover - sort of in line with 3rd gear. so can you turn ignition on at all?
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 17, 2005, 15:48:06
Ignition turns on yes, and it turns over if you use a screwdriver on the startermotor!  But there is no button i can see!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on December 17, 2005, 15:52:55
You could always use the starting handle - good for building up the muscles.  Big silver thing in mine (button that is)- none of your modern flimsy c@@p.    can you not remember any of what prev owner said?
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Andy the Landy on December 17, 2005, 22:31:19
Do you pre-heat before attempting to start :?:
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: iianorthants on December 18, 2005, 08:12:40
depends how original it is, the ignition key might only work glow plugs and you might have a start stop cable (looks like a choke cable and leads to the diesel pump) this will need pulling to start push to stop.
for the starter button

 if altanator (like std car) === follow cable from positive on batt and should lead to a switch on bulkhead this is starter switch (push button from other side)

 if dynamo (just looks like a steel round tube) follow negative wire to switch

remeber if dynamo, will be postive earth !!!! so every thing is back to front ..... so be very carefull with electrics as body is live source not the battery
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: hobbit on December 18, 2005, 08:18:45
Is there a button on the floor, the older versions have a foot button down there with a direct link to the starter
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: datalas on December 18, 2005, 10:55:08
Quote from: "hobbit"
Is there a button on the floor, the older versions have a foot button down there with a direct link to the starter


Earlier Series motors also had the dim / dipped switch on the floor too,  might not help you start the engine, but it's fun to play with.
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 18, 2005, 11:07:50
Ok, thanks to those who tried to lend a hand with trying to tell me how to do it, but the thing is, the previous owner has tried to explain it to me over the phone in idiot terms and i still cant do it, now he cant travel 330 miles just to help, what i need is someone relatively local to actually come down and show me, cos i dont know engines.

Cheers

Dan
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Lee_D on December 19, 2005, 00:24:43
Calm down calm down...

Have you used the pre heater? In cold weather expect on a series diesel to have to heat glow plugs for around 30 seconds so the orange light goes out BEFORE trying to start it.

Thats your first hurdle.

Also check the stop lever is pushed back into place (assuming it has a stop lever!)


Lee D
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 19, 2005, 14:24:10
i was using the pre heater, but i know nothing else, the pre heater isnt connected its loose but i put it on a live connection first.
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Canada Al on December 19, 2005, 22:39:33
can someone not go and help this poor soul
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: spy on December 19, 2005, 22:49:31
Have you sorted it yet?  Im in merseyside so its a bit far to travel but if your still stuck after crimbo (heaven forbid!) I will come and have a look.  Sureley someone more local can help you?  

Im no expert (mines a petrol) but 2 heads are better than one I suppose!  Good luck!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: hobbit on December 19, 2005, 23:06:53
If you have tried a live connection to the glow plugs, perhaps all of them are not working

How did you get the feed to the glow plugs?
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Damonski on December 20, 2005, 03:41:19
Im starting to feel like xuxy ;)

Even pulled up multimap to get an idea of the distance.

Maybe you can arrange a little winter BBQ for us ?  :D
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 20, 2005, 12:57:38
With regards to Damo's comment there will be a few pm's heading a few ways!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: spy on December 20, 2005, 18:22:02
Back again to scrounge my invite to winter bbq!  Maybe a ""get the landy going party" followed by a quick tour of some local lanes?  :D
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Damonski on December 20, 2005, 19:20:49
Sounds like the best plan to me!  8)
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on December 20, 2005, 19:22:28
Indeed, it looks like it could be planned, and if its sorted before then then its a weekend of laning and beer!! lol
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Skywalker on December 20, 2005, 19:41:07
Quote from: "90HTDT"
then its a weekend of laning and beer!! lol


Now that sounds like a great CHRISTMAS PRESENT  :D

Sorry for shouting, just got too excited, ...........  must go change mi' Christmas list  8)

Enjoy it

Dave
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on January 07, 2006, 15:42:31
Its aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!  Thanks to an auto electrician from the Series 2 club it now runs!!!  How good is that!!! he also sorted me brake light and is currently sorting me main lights!!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: hobbit on January 07, 2006, 22:39:19
Nice one, worth waiting for then eh :wink:
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on January 07, 2006, 22:42:51
Most definately, when she fired into life there was a big grin on me face, had to start her another 10 times to make sure i wasnt missing something! lol, but she now starts off the starter button!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rich_P on January 07, 2006, 23:37:47
Quote from: "90HTDT"
Its aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!  Thanks to an auto electrician from the Series 2 club it now runs!!!  How good is that!!! he also sorted me brake light and is currently sorting me main lights!!

Auto Electrician or just an Electrician?  As I know an Electrician who goes by the name of Simon, and lives in Cumbria.  :lol:
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rich_P on January 07, 2006, 23:39:23
Quote from: "iianorthants"
remeber if dynamo, will be postive earth !!!! so every thing is back to front ..... so be very carefull with electrics as body is live source not the battery

Not quite true.  A Dynamo can work either positive or negative earth.  All it takes to switch the eartha round, is to connect the battery the opposite way, and give it a few seconds being ran and the earthing will now have switched.

Problem is, you risk blowing parts of the electrics doing this on such old vehicles, as the voltage box has a number of switches in it which switch depending on the earthing.
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on January 08, 2006, 11:26:55
This thing has an alternator!  Thankfully, and yes his name is Simon, Maltelec off the series 2 club forum, but i do believe he is an auto electrician as opposed to a normal one.

Dan
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rich_P on January 08, 2006, 11:30:28
Yeah, thought it was going to be him.  There arn't that many people in Cumbria with a poo-brown Series Land Rover that I know of.  :P
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on January 08, 2006, 11:32:24
Especially as he actually has 2 poo brown ones!! poo1 and poo2, currently poo2 is on ebay!
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rich_P on January 08, 2006, 12:02:14
Yes, I know.  He also has a Series 3 109-inch which is an ex-police vehicle...
Title: I cant make it start!
Post by: Rangie3.0LtrDan on January 08, 2006, 12:03:26
With a pickaxe sized hole in the chassis! LOL
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