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Vehicle & Technical => Series Land Rovers => Topic started by: Pete5844 on April 19, 2004, 18:32:00
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The springs on my S3 are 20yrs old and the shocks look about the same.Can anyone tell me are Parabolic Springs worth the extra cost or would I be better off getting a bit of foam to sit on.
Pete
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In my (very humble) opinion, they aren't worth the money
Standard springs are not intrinsically bad, they just tend to get rusted up and get stiff.
Get a new set of standard springs, replace all the chassis bushes and make sure you keep the springs moving. I used to drive mine up a set of wheel ramps, one corner at a time every so often to make sure everything was moving and working.
Parabolics *are* better, but when I looked, a single spring was the cost of a new set of 4 std.
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An old timer mechanic who looked after trucks in the 50's and 60's used to open the leafs apart on the springs one at a time and squirt oil in between them. He swore by it and I never saw one of his trucks with a broken spring :D
Not sure if this would atract too much dirt etc during the use we put the vehicles through. just a thought
Mind you, I did do it on the Suzie when I bought it and it reduced the squeeking somewhat anyway......
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I fitted Rocky Mountain parabolics on my 88" Series III. Yes, the ride was more supply than that of a similar vehicle with new almost new semi-elliptic springs. However, in hindsight I wouldn't pay the extra for parabolics next time.
New semi-elliptics will improve the ride dramatically over that which badly rusted up and worn out semi-elliptics will offer.
Given the cost of brand new semi-elliptics and the fact they will last for many many years with virtually no maintenance (if exercised occasionally), I wouldn't bother trying to resurrect old ones.
If you want to read about the fun I had fitting parabolics on my 88", then see this link to my website:
http://www.ejames.co.uk/landrover/parabolics.html
James
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Discovery - Katie
http://www.ejames.co.uk
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Can anyone tell me how far extra Parabolic's would lift the body
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Hi Pete. About two inches.
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Hi Pete,
Buy the paras and gas shocks too, well worth the extra cost.
You will find you have a transformed wagon, it will follow the road undulations, and corner so much quicker and safer!!! The body will roll and give you the feedback multileaves never could, not a consideration to buy the old carts!
On a personal note, a couple of times when an 'idiot' has caused me to have to take fast evasive action, the paras react so much better they have definately saved the day, and I have not had to hit them. :wink:
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Fitted parabolic springs and gas shocks which took it up 3 inches performance off road is much better on the road is a lot smoother
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Thanks for the advice people,I've gone for the Parabolics and a set of Pro Camp ES3000 shocks so hope it's worth it.
Pete
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Can anyone tell me should the shackles that go with the parabolic springs be longer than standard.The ones supplied to me were exactly the same as the original ones and this leaves the shockers nearly fully compressed.
Pete
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Hi Pete,
I have heard this before, dampers are made in different lengths, so check with your supplier to see if they have supplied correctly, the axle should be able to reach the stops, but most never can, due to the dampers being too long! :? :shock:
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but most never can, due to the dampers being too long! :? :shock:
Usually because the bump stops are too short... bump stops are one of the most frequently forgotten parts of a suspension lift.
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Usually because the bump stops are too short... bump stops are one of the most frequently forgotten parts of a suspension lift.
Speaking of which... Don't I need to buy some :?
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Help me here people should I have got new bump stops when I got the parabolic springs and how long does it take for the Mud Club stickers to be sent out I've been waiting over two weeks now.
Pete
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I shall pester Tim about your stickers tommorow morning when he gets up, don't know why they've taken so long, but with the post office being what it is at present there's probably someone in bermuda a little confused as to what to do with those stickers.
They're probably in the same place as those bits I ordered... grumble.
Anyhow.
The bump stops on the motor are an important part, especially when your axle is at the full extent of it's articulation. If only because they stop it hitting the chassis. In a coil sprung motor they can also provide leverage and all sorts of other things, but in a series you'd be lucky to get that kind of travel ;)
Still, I'd look at getting a replacement set and possibly getting longer ones if need be. With parabolics you're running a little higher, so really you should get some longer ones.