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Vehicle & Technical => Range Rover => Topic started by: jpc on October 08, 2006, 19:07:27
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helllllpppp!!!
i had a small clunk coming from the drivers side wheel/chassis area
i thought that it was the springs as they looked worn and rusty they were also
coiled up at the top,so today i replaced both front springs (a first for me)and guess what it still clunks but worse it clunks on acceleration ,when you break,when you turn the steering wheel and when you go over a bump
i had a look at the rubber bushes they seem ok....im now at a loss
please help any info would greatfully recived..
jon :D
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Does it clunk when you turn the wheel while stationary? If not, then I'd say it's probably a propshaft UJ that is due for replacement.
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no it only seems to clunk whilst moving.
is uj likely to be expensive/hard to replace?
is there a way to check?
cheers jon
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un bolt one end and see how much play is in them, but a new UJ is about £8.
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thanks ill have a look tomorrow! :D
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Check all bushes in that area including shocks.
They may look OK but get in with a good prybar and give a good yank. Try with wheels on ground and also on axle stands.
Also look for red rust coming from bolts and around outside of bushes (a good sign that something is loose).
Also check for any movement (up-down, side to side) on the wheel when jacked up.
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I had a radius arm to axle bolt that was seized in the bush but not tight, used to drive me insane, so I fixed it one day with LR special tool #2
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so I fixed it one day with LR special tool #2
Is #2 the hammer or the gas axe?? :lol:
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so I fixed it one day with LR special tool #2
Is #2 the hammer or the gas axe?? :lol:
Electric gas-axe, I like my tools to have a plug on them :wink:
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im going to get someone to look at it it is the same clunk but i just cant see/feel anything when stationary but when its moving it clunks quite a lot.
thanks to you all for the help..
ill keep you posted.
jon
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I have the exact same clunk from the drivers side front wheel area and it drives me mad !!!!
Its polly bushed complete.Has complete 2" lift springs and dampers.
New wheel bearings,and i disconnected the front prop to see if it went away and it didnt.I have double checked the endfloat on the front disks again and still cant trace it.
It clunks as though something is moving to one position to another but it doesnt do it that often,i thought it could be the radius arm not fully tightened but that looks ok.The springs and dampers have been on about a year now.Im baffled , so any more ideas on what to check please.
cheers
andy
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well maybe we could call ourselves the clunkers :D
my clunk feels like it goes through you? (if you know what i mean?)
its front drivers side i pressure washed the underside of the car but all looked ok? im going to change the shocks and uj joint this weekend ill keep you posted..
jon-paul
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Dont change anything till you are sure thats the problem and its going to cause you a problem.
I have clunks from o\s front, o\s rear, n\s front, transmission, a wine from the rear diff, noises from front calipers, rear brakes squeal like a pig, tappets rattle on start up, one of the fan belts squeals, revs to 2500 on start up, tailgate doesn,t lock, heater matrix is bust, radio doesnt work, there is fist sized hole in the floor taped up with tank tape.
BUT I use daily without any problems and I work through the ever expanding list in priority order (its getting cold so I need to fix heater)
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thanks for the advice garth :D
i just want to make sure we are safe when driving!
cheers jon
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If you can't find anything outside the axle and it sounds worse when you are turning, it's most probably the CV joint.
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Totally agree
But if its that hard to find then it can't be that bad
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What condition are the anti-roll bar links like (assuming it has them!) ?
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i have removed my arb's.When it clunks, its when setting off or stopping.Not when turning.
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Hand on, it clunks with the front prop removed? Rear A frame balljoint anyone?
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I am thinking CV,
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on closer inspection it appers to clunk when starting and stoping not when turning unless im starting or stoping also?.
just to keep myself happy im going to change the front shocks around.
jon
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mines deffo coming from the front,same as that.Im going to re check the radius arm is tight.It may have worked loose after off roading.Although it doesnt appear to be loose maybe its all the weight when braking and setting off which is causing it.
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ok i just spent 3hrs fitting new shocks,so i now have new shocks,new springs
and ive wd40'd everything in sight ive also checked all rubber bushes and wiggled everything i can.went for a drive a guess what ......
IT STILL CLUNKS :x :x :evil:
if someone has the time please can they type a checklist
of other things to look at..
cheers jon
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Check the trailing arm bushes and A frame ball joint and bushes. Get some one to watch for movement while you let the clutch up to bite point and press it down several times. If you havent got someone to watch for you then you should be able to see lateral movement in the axle if you look out of the drivers window while lifting/depressing the clutch. G
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cheers G but its an auto have checked the trailing arm seems ok..
thanks jon
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cheers G but its an auto have checked the trailing arm seems ok..
thanks jon
OK, didn't twig it was an auto. It's probably an A frame bush or balljoint, more likely a balljoint, get a pry bar and try and move them. You wont see any movement just trying to wobble them when the vehicle is at rest unless they are completely knackered but you should see some movement with the pry bar if they are begining to fail.
Are you sure that it's not just a harsh auto box? If it is the auto box then i wouldn't expect a clunk when you are stopping, it would clunk only when taking up drive.
Just another thought, having not heard your "clunk" i'm thinking that it could be something as simple as loose brake pads, or calliper bolts.
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the clunk feels like it is coming from under the drivers seat/front wheel its defo not auto box as that has its own clunk. it is hard to explain but if two coils on the front spring were to rub together that is what id expect it to sound like (new,springs and shocks installed)..it also happens when the car is cornering around small round-a-bouts or sharp corners,i found that out today after installing the shocks and testing them....
i will try both ball joint and a frame bush with a pry bar
cheers jon
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Hi guys,
Just thought id let you know,i found out what was clunking !!!!!
It was the panhard rod up front had come loose !! Only found out as it failed MoT on bush being worn out and bolt loose ! :shock:
All sorted now ! until next time
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is that an easy fix? if so please can you elaborate.
thanks jon
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is that an easy fix? if so please can you elaborate.
thanks jon
Yeah fairly.I still had some poly bushes left over from when i bought a kit.
I just hacksawed out the bushes then fitted the poly bushes.Obviously remove panhard rod first !! If your fitting standard bushes then i think they will need to be pressed in.
Mine was also loose !
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Hello fellow clunkers.
I think we're looking a two different problems here,
CLUNK ONE...
the first one seems to me (no expert) that it could be the prop shafts, if you get underneath and get a good grip one one of them and try and turn it in your hands you should be able to tell it they are worn, ideally you want to find no movement as you try and trun each one, a small amount will be OK for a while but it will get worse. try each prop, if there is excessive movement that's your problem, new universal joints (UJ's) are required.
CLUNK TWO....
I had a similar clunk on my 110, to test it, drive slowly, in 1st or 2nd gear say in a car prak or similar and while moving put your foot on and then off the throttle, if this is where your clunk is happening then it is your half shafts, I felt an amazing difference after changing mine on the 110, it felt like a Rolls Royce (erm well a new 110) afterwards!!!
a way of further proving the half shafts is to remove the 5 bolts holding the end cap on the end of the axle and remove the rubber dust cap, with the bolts out, see if there is any movement of the cap on the splines, this movement, if there is any, gives the dreaded clunk.
New half shafts and end caps are required to fix this clunk.
Prop shaft UJ's are about a tenner each.
Half shafts are anything from £25 upwards, the longer one being dearer.
Probably expect to pay around £70 per axle including new end caps.
A mate of mine had the problem with the pan hard rod bush, but this was really agressive clunking. I mean almost undriveable!
Hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
Ron.
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I know the clunk you mean, its the one as if the springs popping back into place, I reckon you can rule out half shafts props an diff's, after reading this thred I'm going to check my panard rod in the morning :?
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buster, where abouts are you in teeside, i'm up in nunthorpe over xmas an new year, is there any good green lanes you'd recommend or any local play days