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Title: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 16, 2008, 17:48:59
Anybody doing a meet in Norfolk soon?

Meet on 30th Nov 2008, at the Angel Pub in Watlington

1. Craig (Mistyshogun)
2. Nicola (Mrs Mistyshogun) and baby Alex aka baby Mistyshogun
3. Eugene
4. Carol (Mrs Eugene)
5. Henry, and baby Freddie
6. Lesley
7. Kieran
8. Leah
9. Aaron
10. Steve (V8MoneyPit)
11. Michael (V8MoneyPit)
12. Rob
13. Danny (Discodan)
14. Fruitloop
15. Mrs Fruitloop
16. Niel (diggerdog36)
17. Julie (niels wife)
18. Charlie (Niels son)
19.
20.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 16, 2008, 18:42:57
i will ask this pub at stow bardolph and see if we can get in there
wheres that?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 16, 2008, 18:45:08
im up for that havnt had on for ages
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: barneyboy on November 16, 2008, 19:56:02
Id like to join you guys,it would be my first meet and a chance to get to know some of you.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: digger on November 16, 2008, 20:03:50
sounds good 2 me pint of bulmers please :grin:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 16, 2008, 21:22:16
Nice one Henry. Looking forward to it, will only be me though, Nicola will be staying at home, I think. When you thinking for?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 16, 2008, 21:25:35
That would be good, what is the prices on food like? Could pay the remaining amount for the shogun and roof light bar
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 16, 2008, 21:28:00
Food for both me and Nicola now!! Can't wait!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: scousebird on November 16, 2008, 21:33:51
ahem excuse me, but does the 28th of november ring any bells with you Henry?


thats right! your WIFE's birthday, and you're sodding off out!! lol typical, good job I'm used to your forgetfulness   :roll:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 16, 2008, 22:01:56
tut tut tut. Naughty Henry. Do you need to tie a knot to remember? Your phone should have a function to remember these things
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 17, 2008, 10:46:51
Hmm. Can't really do Friday's. Maybe next time.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 13:55:03
Hows about we change it to the 30th Nov, a sunday, and do some lanes and fords then have a meal afterwards?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: Hector on November 17, 2008, 14:24:50
30th Sounds interesting to me.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 17, 2008, 18:20:46
Hows about we change it to the 30th Nov, a sunday, and do some lanes and fords then have a meal afterwards?

That sounds a gr8 idea not sure if i can do that date tho
rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 18:24:26
Hows about we change it to the 30th Nov, a sunday, and do some lanes and fords then have a meal afterwards?

That sounds a gr8 idea not sure if i can do that date tho
rob
Try!! Skip church! lol.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 18:46:42
dont really wont to do water untill i have fitted a snorkel after finding all that mud in air box from 3 holes dont want to take chance of sucking up water into engine
The 3 fords are fine for the standard disco, ask bobtailed disco, with his V8!! No porblems, as even after lots of rain, the water isn't deep enough.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 19:18:10
henry isnt the hair arm a snobs pub it always used to be went there 4 a meal once only have prices on the fellas menu not the womens made me gulp when i herd her ordering but it may of changed it always had rollers out side
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 19:29:29
or shogun
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 19:36:09
Just looked at the menus!! http://www.theharearms.co.uk/html/restaurant_menu.html (http://www.theharearms.co.uk/html/restaurant_menu.html) OH MY GOD, I drive a 4x4 not a bleedingt punto. I dont have that money spare, I'd have to take out a second mortgage on the house i dont even own!! Can we see about the Jolley Brewer, just outside Shouldham, or the foldgate inn? I like them prices alot better, only about £8 a main meal!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 19:45:50
just found the other menu!!http://www.theharearms.co.uk/html/bar_food_menu.html (http://www.theharearms.co.uk/html/bar_food_menu.html)better price!! also what about arbuckles?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 19:50:51
arbuckles has gone down hill we could go to mcd's pizzahut or burger king in kings lynn after doing the floods
Alls good, 4x4 drivers once had teh potential to be loaded!! (Also replace 4x4 for horses and it is true too!)
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 19:54:07
so marham chip shop then

dont have one
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 19:59:17
how about the angel at watlington they do a nice carvery i went last year and for 4 of us it was £35
As allyou who dont know will be able to tell, I am a Yorkshireman, and like to spend as little as possible, I like them prices.Will they allow muddy 4x4s?  :police:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:07:40
Do carvery, then offroading, looks better with clean wagons in a carpark, mucky them up afterwards!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:10:56
let it settle for 1/2 hour first!! ,lol
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 20:27:31
were up for that carvery sound good what part of yorkshire you from mistyshogun ive family in bedale
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:30:41
were up for that carvery sound good what part of yorkshire you from mistyshogun ive family in bedale
My wife, Nicola and I are from West Yorkshire, but lived at RAF Leeming, just round the corner from Bedale for about 2 years!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:34:02
mistyshogun and mrs mistyshogun please, plus 1x 7 month old
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 20:34:53
when is it henry  :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:35:46
when is it henry  :D
read the previous posts, but 30th, nov a sunday
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 20:37:37
hi can you put me and carol down  :)
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:38:05
4 definates so far
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 20:41:28
you can bring whole family now henry you got a 7 seater lol
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:44:23
Is this going to be a FULL family day out then? lol
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 20:45:35
no probs mate might bring the titch the yorkterrier with us he likes a sunday roast
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:46:30
no probs mate might bring the titch the yorkterrier with us he likes a sunday roast
Barney and bella, our springers love a bit of game!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet??
Post by: eugene on November 17, 2008, 20:48:46
he thinks hes a rotty but hes just well spoilt  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 20:57:46
i have just rerang the angel and booked us in for the 30th @ 14.30 hrs mud club  kids are welcome but i need to no how many buy the 26th to comfirm with them of how many of us are going i have provisional booked 20 places
How many of you are going Henry?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 21:02:38
All added and updated so far!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 21:06:19
I know, don't you like it? Keep families together, help me on my admin side of things
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 17, 2008, 21:09:09
sorry, updated. :police:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 18, 2008, 13:46:42
You can put me and my son, Michael, down as provisional. I'll see if I can make it. If you run out of space, you can just drop me off the end!!

I'd only come for the lunch and then head off again. The Merc 190E doesn't do fords  :lol: And the Freelander is otherwise occupied. And the LR90 is...err..... in bits  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 18, 2008, 15:54:43
Updated, Thanks Steve
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 20, 2008, 21:35:47
Norfolk meet bump!! Come on norfolkites, get your name down.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 20, 2008, 21:58:16
best change the venue to an all you can eat chinese!! lol
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 20, 2008, 22:49:58
sounds good. Come on, get your names down
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 20, 2008, 23:13:20
can you put my name down with a question mark pls, i am on call atm but trying to get out of it lol.

cheers rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: eugene on November 21, 2008, 18:17:54
you saying im a pig henry i just like food  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: DiscoDan on November 21, 2008, 21:04:55
Hi Craig.

I see somebody else is getting the benefit of those mud tyres I sold you!  :D

Can I join you on the 30th? It will be my first MudClub event although I've been an online member for years  :roll:

Be good to meet some new people in the area.

Cheers, Danny
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 21, 2008, 21:10:50
Updated. Looking forward to seeing you there! Hows the disco going?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: DiscoDan on November 21, 2008, 21:37:03
Yep, the Disco is fine, never misses a beat.

How formal are the MudClub meets? Does the Regional Rep keep minutes or anything?

I've done a few local lanes with Breckland LR Club but I'd be keen to find some more.

Cheers, Danny
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 21, 2008, 21:48:50
This one is going to be quite literally meet at the pub, have a meal, do some lanes and go home, i think!! lol
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: DiscoDan on November 21, 2008, 22:01:50
Sounds OK. Won't be too much light left for many lanes though if the grub is at 230pm! Never done night laning before  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 21, 2008, 22:15:08
Sounds OK. Won't be too much light left for many lanes though if the grub is at 230pm! Never done night laning before  :lol:
Donr all the fords at castle acre in the dark, thats fun!
 Lost my number plate and went looking for it
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 21, 2008, 22:38:25
Sounds OK. Won't be too much light left for many lanes though if the grub is at 230pm! Never done night laning before  :lol:
Donr all the fords at castle acre in the dark, thats fun!
 Lost my number plate and went looking for it

That was just an excuse to keep going through it lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 21, 2008, 22:40:16
shhh, dont tell an yone
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 24, 2008, 21:35:24
Count me and the misses in,
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: marky on November 24, 2008, 22:22:31
I'll come for a quick drink, no food or lanes though :(
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 25, 2008, 11:48:57
OK then, stick me and 1 other and 2 kiddies!!  Dont want to miss out on anything!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 25, 2008, 11:57:01
Correct me if Im wrong.  But,

Tables booked for 20 people at 14.30, we eat lunch then go laning, but it gets dark at 1600.  So why not bring the lunch forward to say, 1300, food will be fresher and it wont be dark for laning!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 25, 2008, 12:39:26
Correct me if Im wrong.  But,

Tables booked for 20 people at 14.30, we eat lunch then go laning, but it gets dark at 1600.  So why not bring the lunch forward to say, 1300, food will be fresher and it wont be dark for laning!!!
get some lights!! lol, we3'll look into it.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 25, 2008, 21:31:17
What do people want to do? PM me with your ideas. Do you want to do laning first them the meal? Bring the meal forward and lane longer in the light, OR carry on as planned?

Let me know, only have 6 days left
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 25, 2008, 21:38:34
Greenlane all day (say, 10-4ish), then go to the evening meal in the pub (5pm ish).  Lunch/Carvery is smack bang in the middle of our laning time!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bunnykins on November 25, 2008, 23:07:22
is this just gentle green lanning not rough off road on rocks ? if so i may be interested

Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 25, 2008, 23:40:03
just gentle. taking our 8 month old son and our only car (unmodified shogun) so should be fine!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 25, 2008, 23:40:42
meal too?? forgot to ask
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 26, 2008, 09:11:13
is this just gentle green lanning not rough off road on rocks ? if so i may be interested


No, its just gentle green laning, there are no hard lanes in Norfolk that Ive found!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: DiscoDan on November 26, 2008, 18:07:24
Hi ya.

Personally I don't want to start the day too early, not a morning person!  :'( But we could have the carvery earlier, 11 or 12 and that would give us more daylight for laning.

I think the post on page 1 or 2 said the meal prices were expensive so it would be good to stick to the carvery times rather than an evening meal.

Cheers, Danny
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 26, 2008, 18:12:16
true! I looked at the prices for the other pub, restaurant prices rather than the pub meal prices! whoops  :doh: The meal can only be booked for 2.30, Henry tried to get it earlier but due to the party size, he accomodated us all for later.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 26, 2008, 20:41:05
Thne why not find a pub that is cheap and serves bar meals, so we can go laning then have a leisurely meal instead of rushing our food just to catch the fading light
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 26, 2008, 22:36:51
that is the best thing about night lanning it is dark

Its ok for you henry you have extra lights lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 26, 2008, 22:47:14
So do I - currently 550watts up front - soon to be 1000watts!!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 26, 2008, 23:11:24
Its ok for you henry you have extra lights lol  :lol:
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Rob, lights on your motor ain't problem, keeping on the road going around corners is, lol


Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 26, 2008, 23:16:39
Its ok for you henry you have extra lights lol  :lol:


Rob light not your problem, keeping on the road going around corners, lol


Jav.
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Thats because couldn't see where i was going lol
and there is 2 much power under the bonnet lol
got a new oil pressure switch I'm gonna fit it then cover it with silicon and if that dont work just remove the bulb lol

Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 26, 2008, 23:30:08
Its ok for you henry you have extra lights lol  :lol:


Rob light not your problem, keeping on the road going around corners, lol


Jav.

Thats because couldn't see where i was going lol
and there is 2 much power under the bonnet lol
got a new oil pressure switch I'm gonna fit it then cover it with silicon and if that dont work just remove the bulb lol

Rob










to much power got a diesel then rob it must be the switch oterwise it would of stopped by now
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I am gessing it is a landrover thing with the eng oil pressure switches failing when they get wet as my 200 and v8 have both done it now
Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 26, 2008, 23:37:12
no it could be just you rob they like you buying them or someone changed your switch :lol: :lol:

Any idea what sort of pressure there should b there.... thinking about removing it and putting a pipe in and a gage i the dash (water cant kill that)lol
Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 26, 2008, 23:42:33
i agree with Henry on that rob, mines never done anything like that and if you've seen the state of my engine bay half the time i'm supprised anything works on my truck at all


Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 26, 2008, 23:45:41
or just a pipe with a bung on the end so when the light comes on i can just take the bung out and see if there is any oil lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 26, 2008, 23:52:58
listen to the little voice in your head Rob,  :-$ buy a desiel, buy a desiel, lol


Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 26, 2008, 23:58:14
listen to the little voice in your head Rob,  :-$ buy a desiel, buy a desiel, lol


Jav.

I wanted a desiel when i bought that but that turned up in good condition at the right price.
And i have spent loads waterproofing everything now....

2 cans WD40
2 laytex gloves
1 plastic bag
5 cable ties lol  :lol: :lol:

Didn't miss a beat through the ford, It just put that bloody light on
Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 27, 2008, 00:07:42
May be a daft question Rob, but when was the last time you changed the oil filter and oil?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 27, 2008, 00:18:40
the only reason i thought of that is because petrol models have a sensor on the oil filter
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 27, 2008, 00:22:26
that could be it jav rob done an oil change put new filter on and for got to top up with oil  :lol: :lol:

Just had a full service when i bought it (all oils and filters) oil levels are all ok the light only comes on when i go through fords it must be like a warning "I'm a v8 i dont like water" lol

Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 27, 2008, 00:24:11
the only reason i thought of that is because petrol models have a sensor on the oil filter


Do They ???
I havent looked on the v8 yet i no the 200 has got it on the filter housing
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 27, 2008, 00:27:18
might be a place to start, it could be something simple like a loose connection and when the pressure of the water hits it it dissconects
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 27, 2008, 00:32:02
the only reason i thought of that is because petrol models have a sensor on the oil filter


Do They ???
I havent looked on the v8 yet i no the 200 has got it on the filter housing










there should be a pressure swiitch inside the filter

As in threds into the end of it ?????
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 27, 2008, 08:38:52
what has all this got to do with sunday????
lol
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 27, 2008, 10:21:42
soon to be 1000watts!!!!
And a flat battery!!!

So, whats the plan on Sunday.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 27, 2008, 11:39:51
Now, now Henry, put your hand bag away, lol


Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 27, 2008, 16:38:46
go back a few pages meet at pub at 2.30 have meal then go out lanning it is simple

I was trying to get the thread back on topic and there was talk of times changing due to the meal time!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 27, 2008, 16:42:37
Sorry Niel, but the times are as follows: Meal booked at 2.30pm on 30th, so meet at the pub at 2 to 2.15 ready for 2.30. Have meal, then go laning. If anyone has any problems with this, please post.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: JIMBOBLY on November 27, 2008, 23:36:00
how we doing,im up for that too mate,on the 30th that is,looking forward to it,it'l be my first outing with the club :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 27, 2008, 23:46:30
Is that the meal too? just you or others? how many? Many thanks. See you there. CRaig
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 28, 2008, 10:29:03
Looks like I'll be fixing a water pipe on Sunday. The digger driver broke through a mains pipe in one of our fields  :doh: Sunday is the first chance I'll have, so I doubt I'll get over to the pub meet. Sorry guys, but the pipe has to be a priority  :roll: The water is turned off, but it is still going to be a boggy mess.... oh joy!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 28, 2008, 10:43:58
Looks like I'll be fixing a water pipe on Sunday. The digger driver broke through a mains pipe in one of our fields  :doh: Sunday is the first chance I'll have, so I doubt I'll get over to the pub meet. Sorry guys, but the pipe has to be a priority  :roll: The water is turned off, but it is still going to be a boggy mess.... oh joy!
never mind steve, do you want your name removing, or do you think you might make it?
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 28, 2008, 13:04:03
Looks like I'll be fixing a water pipe on Sunday. The digger driver broke through a mains pipe in one of our fields  :doh: Sunday is the first chance I'll have, so I doubt I'll get over to the pub meet. Sorry guys, but the pipe has to be a priority  :roll: The water is turned off, but it is still going to be a boggy mess.... oh joy!
never mind steve, do you want your name removing, or do you think you might make it?

Take me off the list. If I turn up, it'll just be for a swift half and bag of crisps!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 28, 2008, 16:35:21
Keep us up to date on that henry
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: animaljimny on November 28, 2008, 18:12:22
hello, new member,
I will join you for the green laning but not the meal if thats ok. Guess its a night run assuming you wont be leaving till 3:30/ 4?

Will see you at the pub about 3:30 sunday.

Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 28, 2008, 18:48:52
see you then. I'll be in the shogun with lights!! lol.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on November 28, 2008, 18:49:06
can u put me down 4 the laning plz
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 28, 2008, 18:53:50
see you at 3.30. No list for laning atm, just turn up for that bit!!

THE MORE THE MERRIER.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on November 29, 2008, 10:42:10
see you at 3.30. No list for laning atm, just turn up for that bit!!

THE MORE THE MERRIER.

Please don't forget to split into reasonable size groups. Ideally a maximum of 4 vehicles in each group. And leave half an hour between groups. I'm sure you will, but just a polite reminder  ;) :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 29, 2008, 10:54:53
Thank you steve. Will do. Hope you get the pipe sorted and we see you there! Cheers. Craig
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 29, 2008, 10:57:13
sorry  guys im gonna have to pull out on the meal 2 mor unless i can sleep this bug off 2day.
Sorry again
Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 29, 2008, 11:30:40
you still making the laning? Be a man rob!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 29, 2008, 14:31:15
sorry  guys im gonna have to pull out on the meal 2 mor unless i can sleep this bug off 2day.
Sorry again
Rob
.


Thats the excuse for not being on call, lol
so you can come laning :) Just keep your heater on :)

Jav.


Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: animaljimny on November 29, 2008, 19:14:05
meal at 2:30
20 cars
1/2 hour between groups of four

Must check head lights....... and bring breakfast  :-.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 29, 2008, 19:23:37
not 20 cars, i dont think! only about 10,
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: zippy656 on November 30, 2008, 18:52:38
how did you get on then??
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 30, 2008, 19:02:29
9 Cars turned up, lost 4 cars leaving the pub, all met eventually at  BP near McDonalds in Swaffham, lost 4 more at the start of peddars way, found them in the end! Went to Castle Acre and West Acre fords. The meal at the start wasn't impressive on starters, so left to see to horse, then went back for laning!

Next time, it will be organised by myself, with something along the lines of: Meet at McDonalds, have breakfast at 9, leave at 9.30, do Peddars, Fords, More lanes, more peddars, Lunch, More peddars, and around 4, have tea (fish and chips or a meal.) Keep a look out for the next
NORFOLK MEET
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 30, 2008, 19:45:11
Next time, it will be organised by myself.

Who organised this one then???

It started off at the wrong time and at the wrong place, it should have been an early start and an evening meal, then people can spin their dits over dinner.
We could have looked for a pub at the start of peddars way.

Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 30, 2008, 19:49:59
plenty of pubs in Swaffham!! I will be leading one of the groups, then we can have a NICE, SLOW drive.

And yes, I did partly organise this one.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on November 30, 2008, 19:56:53
And yes, I did partly organise this one.

Throw him to the ground centurion......ROUGHLY!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 30, 2008, 19:58:44
thank you for that Neil. You coming on the next one, a "full" day of it, minimal dark night driving! Would you like to organise one? You can help too.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on November 30, 2008, 20:19:53
well i enjoyed it nice 2 meet new faces
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 30, 2008, 20:25:54
well i enjoyed it nice 2 meet new faces
Thank you. I take it you will be coming to the next one then?
Craig
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on November 30, 2008, 20:27:49
yes mate looking forward to it
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: eugene on November 30, 2008, 20:41:47
just got back had henry the kids ajav and jez back for coffee had great time nice to see new people
no just have to wait till thetford
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 30, 2008, 20:44:07
are you coming back eugene? See you at the next Norfolk Meet?!?

Craig
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on November 30, 2008, 20:45:26
do you think eugine me and you can keep our trucks in a straight line when we go to thetford  :grin:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 30, 2008, 20:47:24
sounds like you had a gr8 day. I was tempted to meet up for the lanes for a while but fell asleep at about 3 and didnt wake up untill 7.

So whens the next meet???

BETTER NOT BE WHEN I AM ON CALL LOL

Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on November 30, 2008, 20:48:12
sounds like you had a gr8 day. I was tempted to meet up for the lanes for a while but fell asleep at about 3 and didnt wake up untill 7.

So whens the next meet???

BETTER NOT BE WHEN I AM ON CALL LOL

Rob
I'm going to get a full day planned in the first weekend of January, may be a white day!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: eugene on November 30, 2008, 20:52:24
mine was a bit skiddy ive giot to get use to the lift and mts but it made me laugh when i saw that tree coming at me.
a couple of pick with my new lift and mts on :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on November 30, 2008, 20:56:11
sounds like you had a gr8 day. I was tempted to meet up for the lanes for a while but fell asleep at about 3 and didnt wake up untill 7.

So whens the next meet???

BETTER NOT BE WHEN I AM ON CALL LOL

Rob
I'm going to get a full day planned in the first weekend of January, may be a white day!

Sounds gr8 to me as i aint on call then :-)
Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: eugene on November 30, 2008, 21:00:00
the last part of peddars way was very rutted and bumpy  :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: scousebird on November 30, 2008, 22:04:30
Next time, it will be organised by myself.

Who organised this one then???

It started off at the wrong time and at the wrong place, it should have been an early start and an evening meal, then people can spin their dits over dinner.
We could have looked for a pub at the start of peddars way.
I don't agree with the off roading on the verges, thats what gives 4x4's a bad name and gives the antis ammunition.


Noone forced you to go fgs...it was stated some pages ago it was going to be night laning, if you didn't like that idea, you could have stayed at home and let everyone else have the fun alone.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 30, 2008, 22:53:42
Next time, it will be organised by myself.

Who organised this one then???

It started off at the wrong time and at the wrong place, it should have been an early start and an evening meal, then people can spin their dits over dinner.
We could have looked for a pub at the start of peddars way.

I don't agree with the off roading on the verges, thats what gives 4x4's a bad name and gives the antis ammunition.


Why so negative m8, no one twisted your arm to go, anyway i found it to be a good evenings trip out and as i travelled 90 odd miles to get there i have no complaints, A big thx go out to Craig and Henry for the invite




Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on November 30, 2008, 23:00:06
And a big thx to Carol and Eugene for inviting us in for a cuppa  :D :D :D :D :D :D



Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on December 01, 2008, 03:02:32
personally i think norfolk lanes are to easy doing them in the dark is more interesting.

But saying that i wouldn't wanna do more than a few hrs in the dark. But you try stopping me from doing a full days laneing :-)

But each to there own
Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on December 01, 2008, 06:30:48
i reckon we should organise a weekend laneing and camping somewhere when the weather picks up
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: mudmuncher on December 01, 2008, 07:40:35
I think you did well Henry. The club needs more people like yourself who are willing to comit to organising events. So many will tag along and complain at the end but will they do something about it? NO NO NO

AGAIN HENRY WELL DONE
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: diggerdog36 on December 01, 2008, 09:35:04
I know I wasnt forced to go, but I thought Id turn up to give it a go,  I wanst happy with some things.  Thats why I voted with my feet and left.  With one of the organisers close behind me.  Weve moved down here from North Yorkshire where we have been laning for almost 10 years, and Ive never seen people have so much disregard for 'Greenlaning Rules'
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: mudmuncher on December 01, 2008, 13:24:34
I personally think that a few hours of 'good' green-laning is far better than a full day just for the sake of it. Maybe I would say that as it would cost a kings ransum (?) for me to do a full days green-laning in my petrol v8.
Truthfully I've lost interest in offroading but could just be tempted back into the fold with a few easy going night drives. Until then my Range Rover remains a Chelsea Tractor.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: DiscoDan on December 01, 2008, 13:48:11
Hi.

This was my first MudClub event and first night laning event.  :shock:

Without wanting to sit on the fence I agree with most of the above. The exception being the posts that have a go at somebody for expressing a view,  [-X contructive criticism and reminding people of the greenlaning guidelines is how events can be improved.

The confusion seems to be partly because Craig was organising the event but Henry was booking the meal and leading the drive. I appreciate people giving up their time to run events as I wouldn't have the knowledge/experience to do it at this stage.

I found the meal good but think Craig is right about having a meal time, and a start time, some members were waiting for us to finish the meal for some time.

I also agree with Diggerdog about the Greenlaning guidelines. 9 is too many in a convoy, and means that those at the back don't receive the same communications. Things like driving over verges and parking outside peoples houses does lead to us getting a bad press and saying 'f**k them' is just a selfish attitude. It's because of people like this that off roaders are already barred from large numbers of greenlanes.  :angry:

As a new member I was worried about the issue of driving legal greenlanes and whether this had been checked by Henry in advance, it's fine to joke that 'it'll be ok' but I don't know if that was a joke or a serious answer! I for one don't want to get a notice from Police as described in the other thread on here. The description of excessive ruts described above could be in the section of lane with a voluntary restraint on it?

Just to clarify, I'm not saying we drove illegal lanes.

MudClub is an internet club with little control over members, if people have MudClub plastered on their vehicle they should respect the other members of MudClub and not bring it into disrepute. Is it the case that more formal clubs reject members that disregard the rules and they come here to play?

I enjoyed the night laning, and I would come again, it was good to meet others from the area and to find out that others have the same concerns as me regarding greenlaning. I did leave early, partly due to the time, partly the group size and actions, and partly wanting to see Top Gear!  :D

Thanks Craig & Henry, hope you can see my point of view.

Dan.

Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: mudmuncher on December 01, 2008, 14:20:36
Nice post Dan.  :clap: :clap:

I was not there. I can only go on what I read and as they say 'the mud is a little clearer now'.
It seams to me that the meal was the main point of the day and the green-lane secondary.
Maybe , just maybe the green-laning wasn't up to the normal high standard Henry usually sets when he arranges a green-laning run.
I'm sure lessons can be learnt and improvments made including a more detailed events timetable.
So come on lads,  make up and be friends  :dance: :dance:

Sorry Henry but the A47 needs me on the 14th
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: DiscoDan on December 01, 2008, 14:30:36
Hi.

I haven't fallen out with anyone! I was just posting my view of my first MudClub event, and the timing isn't the issue for me.

Thanks Henry for checking the lanes, as I said I appreciate the time people put in.

My concern about parking outside houses is about creating a poor image, not about legally being allowed to do it. Nobody wants a queue of cars outside in the dark, especially families and the elderly.

And yes, I will fix the cb!

Cheers, Dan
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: mudmuncher on December 01, 2008, 14:39:21
not more cones going up cant you boys do the work on christmas day when the roads are empty  :lol: :lol: as for this meet up i was only trying to help out it is only a few what was moaning about the times

We only carry 30 cones in the van.
What we do best is completely close the road and send you all on a 30 mile plus diversion.  :lol:
So next time you see only few cones out think yourself lucky. I could have been there with my 'road closed' sign  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on December 01, 2008, 15:13:07

Just to clarify, I'm not saying we drove illegal lanes.

MudClub is an internet club with little control over members, if people have MudClub plastered on their vehicle they should respect the other members of MudClub and not bring it into disrepute. Is it the case that more formal clubs reject members that disregard the rules and they come here to play?




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Dan, Just to get this right, as i was the only person there who had  big MC stickers plastered all over the front of my truck i was acting out of order, if so then i think you need to get your fact's right first m8 and keep your comments to yourself.


Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on December 01, 2008, 15:21:47


Just to clarify, I'm not saying we drove illegal lanes.

MudClub is an internet club with little control over members, if people have MudClub plastered on their vehicle they should respect the other members of MudClub and not bring it into disrepute. Is it the case that more formal clubs reject members that disregard the rules and they come here to play?







Just to get this right, as i was the only person there who had  big MC stickers plastered all over the front of my truck i was acting out of order, if so then i think you need to get your fact's right first m8 and keep your comments to yourself.


Jav.
[/quote]Sorry Jav, but there were a few of us with MUD CLUB on our motors,  and dan is going on what has bees said earlier, as he was one of the rear cars.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on December 01, 2008, 15:38:27
Nothing of noticable size in which to advertise MC



Jav.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on December 01, 2008, 17:29:13
Hey guys. Just thought I'd better step in here before it gets out of hand. So far, it's remained on the right side of polite, so let's keep it that way please.

It is obvious that some have concern over what went on. Different people will have different views on what is right and wrong. Let's keep that in mind and be broad minded about it.

However, the way I read it, there was a convoy of 9 vehicles. This not only goes against the laning guidelines, but against my polite request before the event took place. The guidelines are not rules, so ultimately you can do as you wish. But in joining this club you agree to abide by the guidelines which suggest no more than 4 vehicles in a group. I would like to request that this is adhered to in future please.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on December 01, 2008, 17:57:41
regarding the group size i didnt hear anybody voicing their worries about the group size at the time if anybody would of said somthing we would of split up but most of the time we were quite far apart from eachother we sorter had to little group anyway
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on December 01, 2008, 18:02:41
It did drop down to 7 about an hour into it as Diggerdog36 and myself left due to babies bedtimes!! And as said, we split at the pub into 2 groups! then one group split again when I carried on to meet everyone at the petrol station. Then again when we left the petrol station as some missed the first turning!!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: Mud-muncher1 on December 01, 2008, 18:04:31
This is true, yes 9 trucks did leave the pub, but as like everything there is always the choice to say NO if people don't feel comfortable going, it's all good and well stick waving and witch hunting, but when it boils down to it everyone was accountable not just a select few as thing seem to be argued.


Jav.

As like most things in life, i don't mind bitting the bullet but when people start having ago at others i.e friends and sometime myself, i'm going to be the first to jump in with two feet as a sheet of paper always has two sides not just the face.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on December 01, 2008, 18:06:16
regarding the group size i didnt hear anybody voicing their worries about the group size if anybody would of said somthing we would of split up but most of the time we were quite far apart

I requested before the event that the group sizes were restricted to a max of 4 if at all possible. It is also in the guidelines that everyone agrees to when they join Mud Club.



It did drop down to 7 about an hour into it as Diggerdog36 and myself left due to babies bedtimes!! And as said, we split at the pub into 2 groups! then one group split again when I carried on to meet everyone at the petrol station. Then again when we left the petrol station as some missed the first turning!!

That's good. Sometimes it is better just to formalise groups right at the start. It just makes keeping them together a whole lot easier and reduces the risk of conflict with the natives  :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on December 01, 2008, 18:09:12
Now I would like to say a Big thank you to Henry for helping me organise this, we will be organising another meet, but it will be one to suit all tastes! There will be the day laning, and afterwards, there will be night laning for those who feel day laning isn't challenging enough. If there are enough people, we will try and split into 3 or even 4 groups of a max of 5, ideally groups of 4, and have a leader for each group, doing different sets of lanes.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on December 01, 2008, 18:10:00
This is true, yes 9 trucks did leave the pub, but as like everything there is always the choice to say NO if people don't feel comfortable going, it's all good and well stick waving and witch hunting, but when it boils down to it everyone was accountable not just a select few as thing seem to be argued.

I don't think anyone has suggested witch hunting, or are even waving sticks! But a couple of people have expressed their concerns which they are perfectly entitled to do. And as you say, when they felt uncomfortable, they left. Or at least one did, anyway.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on December 01, 2008, 18:13:08
if everybody had a cb it would of been a lot easier to group because a lot of people didnt no the route and especially in the dark
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: BigBlueBeast on December 01, 2008, 18:14:12
I think next time, it would be best to have the groups with every other car have a CB or be in contact via mobile if unable to.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on December 01, 2008, 18:15:31
if everybody had a cb it would of been a lot easier to group because a lot of people didnt no the route and especially in the dark

Good point. Might be worth suggesting a CB is required on future runs if the numbers get too much for one group.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: digger on December 01, 2008, 18:24:03
i cant thank henry and craig enough i've been into off roading a couple of years now with not much laning happening and we are now finally getting a regular meet now which can only be a good thing in my eyes

Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on December 01, 2008, 18:48:45
Will i am up for the next meet when ever that might be. (Just dont make it to l8 in the month as i am on call) lol :lol:
All vehicles having CB's sounds a good idea at least 2 in each group (one on the front and one at the back) and ensure the leader of each group has mobile contact as well (just as back up)
I have been out on a few outings with Henry and 1 with Craig before and they have been gr8 days out.
If i can make the next one i will more than willingly lead another group. if we get the maps out b4 hand and plan a route just so we all no where we are going.

ITS NICE TO SEE PEOPLE DOING THINGS FOR THE CLUB THIS MEAL/LANEING IS IN EARLY STAGES, THERE IS BOUND TO BE A FEW MISTAKES WE JUST NEED LISTEN TO PEOPLES COMMENTS AND LEARN BY THEM.

Thanks Henry and Craig

Rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: eugene on December 01, 2008, 20:21:12
i had i good time after getting lost and henry i think ive got a couple of hand held cb il look then out for the 14dec
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: eugene on December 01, 2008, 20:25:40
ok looks like ive missed something while i was at work
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on December 01, 2008, 20:53:35
Will i am up for the next meet when ever that might be. (Just dont make it to l8 in the month as i am on call) lol :lol:
All vehicles having CB's sounds a good idea at least 2 in each group (one on the front and one at the back) and ensure the leader of each group has mobile contact as well (just as back up)
I have been out on a few outings with Henry and 1 with Craig before and they have been gr8 days out.
If i can make the next one i will more than willingly lead another group. if we get the maps out b4 hand and plan a route just so we all no where we are going.

ITS NICE TO SEE PEOPLE DOING THINGS FOR THE CLUB THIS MEAL/LANEING IS IN EARLY STAGES, THERE IS BOUND TO BE A FEW MISTAKES WE JUST NEED LISTEN TO PEOPLES COMMENTS AND LEARN BY THEM.

Thanks Henry and Craig

Rob











rob the next meet up is thetford lanes you are one of my tursties to lead a group surely you not forgotten

no henry not forgot about it. there never has been a prob with thetford lanes tho it always go's well, but there is a big list this time just have to see how many ppl turn up and sort numbers on the day and who go's in which group.

rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: bobtailed disco on December 01, 2008, 21:11:16
i know the list is for guide lines only but i have been in touch with the green lanes association and they say that if we travel in a max of 6 per group they wont take any notice to complaints that is why each group has a max of 6

Thats ok then i was only going by what others said
cheers rob
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: JIMBOBLY on December 01, 2008, 23:00:06
its jimbobly in the rangie that came on sunday,thanks to everyone who organised the event,it was a good day out,and good to meet people,every single one of you spoke to me,unlike the other club i joined,that after sunday dont think i will be spending much time with that lot again.ive read some of the issues going on here,and if everyone expresses their opinion properly,they will be respected for it im sure,we have got to abide by the rules,and not give the ramblers ammunition,i agree,but in my opinion,everything was spot on,looking forward to seeing you all,and more soon,jimbobly :D
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on December 02, 2008, 09:03:32
.......and we are now finally getting a regular meet now which can only be a good thing in my eyes

We have had regular Norfolk/Suffolk pub meets, laning trips and visits to off road centres for the last 3 or 4 years. But I found that we would start a pub meet on a monthly basis and it went well for a while. But after a few months the numbers dwindled and we had little choice but to give up. Then the whole process would happen again 6 months later!!

Henry is putting in a lot of effort and I aplaud this. And it's great to see others starting to organise things too.
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: V8MoneyPit on December 02, 2008, 11:06:57
At the risk of getting way off topic, the 'rep' thing was originally set up mainly to provide a point of reference for those travelling into the area. Not as an 'organiser'. Obviously, it has ended up being a bit that way sometimes  :roll:

So, I'd suggest carrying as you are and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Norfolk Meet - 30 Nov 2008
Post by: 4x4spud on January 12, 2009, 16:28:10
hi steve hi gamg i aint dead just busy but looks if your still having fun . will hopefully tryt and make a few meets in the spring



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