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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 15:20:00

Title: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 15:20:00
Just found a photo someone has done to a disco and it is what I want to do one day.

I think this looks good and would really be a head turner.

(http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/6x6disco.jpg)

writing on the landy madness web site says

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Whilst not strictly entirely a Discovery, this vehicle is very interesting nonetheless.
An ex-Carmichael Commando RIV, it now has now a Discovery body, completed late 2006.
It has a 1994 body and interior (with 2002 front and rear end!), 1994 R380 5-speed manual gearbox with 1994 3.9-litre V8 running on LPG, giving 9-11 mpg.
The chassis suspension, brakes and axles are all 1978 Range Rover still, hence it keeps it original reg. number.
The owner, Trevor Alder, has just finished writing a book(titled "The Merzouga Discovery") about the conversion and his trip to the Sahara.
The book is due out in 2008.

Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: TDi90 on January 19, 2008, 15:24:54
er.. WHY??  :-. :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 15:28:35
I like the look of it and also it is longer so I could sleep in the back if needed.

also a mate has a 6x6 rangie and I love it. I also love disco's so it would combine my 2 loves. :D

My mayes one
(http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/dhno4opb.jpg)
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Steven on January 19, 2008, 17:04:34
I like them too. If I had one it would be kittedf up for overland.  :P
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 19, 2008, 17:46:35
That's very different and cleverly stays tax exempt by the souonds of it.
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Iain C on January 19, 2008, 18:32:36
If you had not added the text, I was about to shout "photoshop".  The rear windows look all wobbly, the front alpine light looks very iffy and the gutter above the rear (or in this case, the halfway along the thing door!) also looks suspect too.

However, if it is genuine, it's very impressive and I like it, although it would look so much better on alloys!
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: GreedyGibson on January 19, 2008, 18:44:11
looks iffy to me as well if you went to all that trouble why leave 2 fuel fillers  :huh:
but may be im just too cynical
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 18:53:18
Same with me. I wondered why the twin fillers. If it wasnt for the text I too would have been a bit jubeious.
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: J.D. on January 19, 2008, 19:07:18
How come it has a 300Tdi front and a Td5 rear end?
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 19:12:14
If it has had an extra back welded on then surely the td5 is the same shell as the 300tdi? could a td5 rear and tdi front not be possible? Buy a accident damaged front end td5?
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: J.D. on January 19, 2008, 19:35:03
Yeah its possible, just wondered why it hadn't all been the same model, keep the handles and lights the same. Is it 6 wheel drive or still 4 wheel drive with a dead axle at the back.
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: RichardM on January 19, 2008, 19:42:36
No, the TD5 and 300Tdi body shells are not the same.  I think I read somewhere that every panel is different
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 19:57:45
I found it on this web site http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/6x6.html (http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/6x6.html)

How you ever tried to do a 6x6 conversion on photo shop? I tried once. It was quiet hard Here is my efforts.
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/fee3bd1f23e3d394e03ada9d50bc6fb4.JPG)

Also I did find on the DOC web site someone else who did a 6x6 conversion. Here is the photo I kept for future reference

(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/b655f61278a92df44e1406bcabe19ec5.JPG)

Prefer the look of the one in this original post by me or my attempt. I think this one looks too dark being all black and blacked out windows. My opinion though.

How much do you think it would cost for the conversion for someone to do the lot? I would love to do it myself but havent got the confidence in my skills to do it nor can I weld!  :?

Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 20:01:43
Is it 6 wheel drive or still 4 wheel drive with a dead axle at the back.

(http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/6x6disco.jpg)

If you look between the 2 rear wheels you can see something going to the back axle at a slight axle. Maybe that is another prop shaft?

Might have to buy the book which comes out this year sometime just to see :lol:
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: thermidorthelobster on January 19, 2008, 20:19:04
Funny, it does look a lot like a Photoshop job.

Can't say I like the effect all that much.  2 missing fuel filler flaps looks absolutely rubbish for a start.  But if he'd replaced the rear windows & alpine lights with a single pane of glass each, it would look very nice.  As it is, it just looks like a half-hearted Photoshop job!
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Iain C on January 19, 2008, 20:21:10
er.. WHY??  :-. :shock: :shock:



So if a 6 wheel Disco surprises you, I hope you are sitting down for this!

I give you...


(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u203/brugos/r5_6x6_4.jpg)
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 20:28:04
OH My life. That has been stretched, extended upwards and hideous :lol:

As for the disco. The 2 missing fuel caps is what makes me think it is a photo shop job. but even so I could hide the missing filler caps in paint quiet easily!!!

see :D :lol:

Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: mike142sl on January 19, 2008, 20:33:01
At 9-11 mpg  8-[ it probably needs two petrol tanks as well as its lpg system  :doh:
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 19, 2008, 20:49:42
Yeah, BIG down side.

I would stick to a 300tdi and have 2 veg oil tanks  :lol:
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Disco Matt on January 19, 2008, 22:02:21
Interesting idea - I'd be more inclined towards keeping the back solid and setting it up as a micro-camper though. You could get a decent bed and plenty of storage in there, add one of those army tents designed to fit over the back of a Landy and you'd have a pretty comfy setup for camping.
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Iain C on January 20, 2008, 00:43:17
My question is where does that forward filler go?  If it goes to a tank, then sureley the top of the 3rd axle will hit it?
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Damonski on January 20, 2008, 13:02:25
Id guess one would be for petrol and one for the gas filler ?  Looks cool tho, I feel a project coming on.......
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 20, 2008, 13:05:01
how much do you reckon it would cost to get a proffesional to do the job for me? This is including buying a front end shunt disco. Would be better if in same colour as mine :lol:

Would give me a ball park figure to aim for for saving up! :lol:
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: J.D. on January 20, 2008, 15:14:51
MuddyJames - just had a word with my mechanic. He says you get the trucks and he will sort out the welding for the hell of it as he is wuite interested. Count me in if you are serious. I am always up for a lugh.
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Disco Matt on January 20, 2008, 15:27:07
Doesn't have to be a front end shunt Disco - I've seen a few on ebay minus engine and gearbox that would probably be a good starting point. Keep what you need, ebay the rest, it would probably almost pay for itself!
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: beast5680 on January 20, 2008, 15:27:22
i dont like the first one shown in the post it just looks odd i quite like the idea of a disco with 2 steering axles at the front :shock: just i dont think its quite feasible..although.... :-k
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: thermidorthelobster on January 20, 2008, 15:42:55
Had the guy who built my 6x6 101 kept it a little longer, he had a steering axle to put on the rear end, so it would have steered from both ends.  He was going to leave it as a passive floating axle, ie it would have been driven (so true 6wd), but would have just followed the rest of the vehicle from a steering perspective, rather like towing a car on an a-frame.

However, I can see a number of problems:
1) When reversing - the caster effect is lost - you'd need a way of locking it, otherwise you'd crab all over the place.  I think he was looking at some sort of hydraulic locking system.

2) The other drawback is when offroading and the middle axle lifts off the ground.  All of a sudden, the back of your vehicle has two degrees of freedom, and you could end up in a situation where the back overtakes the front - not good.

The way to deal with both of these would have been a hydraulic system which would have centred and locked the axle on demand.  However, this would be potentially another thing to maintain and go wrong, and I'm not sure whether there may be some degree of illegality too.

It would have sorted out the tyre scuff though!
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Colin 009 on January 20, 2008, 17:37:12
Why Bother, just buy a Defender crewcab..... :doh:
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Guardian. on January 20, 2008, 18:44:11
MY MATES built a few of these at his garage, usually rangey classics, personally i think they look cac, plus getting the bits costs a fortune for the transmission.
ones i do half like are the 6wd king cab with big pick up back he does for the tree surgeons and that lot.
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: stewy1984 on January 22, 2008, 00:37:25
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320209106886&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: fivespddisco on January 22, 2008, 02:08:43
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320209106886&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011

Ebay it has everything
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: Muttley on January 22, 2008, 03:52:30
If you had not added the text, I was about to shout "photoshop".  The rear windows look all wobbly, the front alpine light looks very iffy and the gutter above the rear (or in this case, the halfway along the thing door!) also looks suspect too.

Looks like someone's been a bit too keen with the clone stamp tool in PS on the bit of roof rail you mention...plus why does he have 2 fillers yet no flap???
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: boss on January 22, 2008, 09:26:00
a friend of mine graham made a 6wheel defender looked the tits! ended up on the cover of LRE couldnt find a pic of ot so i lifted this off his website

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/goochbag/Index-main.jpg)
Title: Re: One day I want to do this
Post by: muddyjames on January 22, 2008, 17:19:36
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320209106886&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011

Cheers mate. I have another thread in the rangie section as my mate who owns this

(http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/dhno4opb.jpg)

The only Scottorn in the country, he blew the middle diff at Billing a few years ago and been quoted over a grand for a new cog to be built. I think if he wins this we will be the happiest man alive and I will be owed LOADS of brownie points :lol:

Cheers  :grin:
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