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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: discowoman on January 15, 2008, 18:19:22

Title: Camel replica
Post by: discowoman on January 15, 2008, 18:19:22
OK so whats needed to turn a 5 door tdi into a Camel replica? ( always liked the look - but not the price of a genuine one)
also has anyone actually done it?
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: landroverkeith on January 15, 2008, 19:14:37
Landrover (Discovery in this case) lol
camel stickers......
safty devices roofrack...
yellow paint (camel) lol
superwinch
winchbumper
Nutcase to drive it....

im sure thats it
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Steven on January 15, 2008, 19:42:02
(http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT1357.JPG)
Distinguish the accessories/parts, find a source, buy and fit!  :lol:  :doh:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: L90OOK on January 15, 2008, 19:46:02
Thats a Brownchurch Roof Tent, Warn winch & allot of Mantec bolt ons  :lol:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: discowoman on January 15, 2008, 20:00:24
so ....
Roofrack
steel wheels
paint
bull bar (nudge bar)
snorkel
sand ladders (maybe)
and the time and money to get everything in the 1st place
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Steven on January 15, 2008, 20:01:06
frontywoman, what disco you got, 200, 300 etc... ? (just out of interest)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Little-Green-Machine on January 15, 2008, 20:17:17
didnt they have a full rollcage :twisted:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Disco Matt on January 15, 2008, 20:24:44
You can get the stickers on ebay easily enough - mine cost me about £6, have been on for about a year and don't seem to be showing any signs of wear.

Thing is, I think the Camel Discos probably had minor differences in kit from year to year and possibly team to team. You have to decide whether you want a generic replica or one of a specific vehicle. The generic one will be easier as you can just look at photos and decide which bits you like the look of!
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: L90OOK on January 15, 2008, 20:25:21
didnt they have a full rollcage :twisted:
Yep a full internal roll cage (Safety Devices)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Jake on January 15, 2008, 20:26:07
The Safety Devices roof rack on the Camels is different to the standard Highlander
Its taller and a lot rarer (like rocking horse poo)
4 Hella spots and a hella work light
sand ladders
sandglow paint
750 x 16 Michelin XCL tyres
Heavy Duty springs
Superwinch upfront, in a specially adapted normal bumper with a bull bar (2 more Hella's) and then bush wires
Ladder on the rear
Safety Devices roll cage with built in dog guard
Mantec snorkel, steering guard, tank guard, breathers
Nato hitch
(http://www.cameltrophy.es/images/vehiculos/disco96.jpg)(http://www.cameltrophy.es/images/logocamel.gif)
Have a read of these
http://www.cameltrophy.es/cameltrophy_lrdiscovery.html
http://www.camel-trophy-vehicles.com/
http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/vehicles/camel.html

 :cool:

Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: NeilWilson on January 15, 2008, 20:33:13
Also I think the roofrack bolted through the roof skin directly onto the roll cage to minimise the loading on the rain gutters.  BTW. a camel lookalike is also known as a shamel  :)

Neil
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: J B on January 15, 2008, 20:34:12
i like this thread  :lol:

heres what i did
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: J B on January 15, 2008, 20:37:41
though ive since removed a few of the stickers, it was just a bit too umm, try hard i suppose

heres how it looks now
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Disco Matt on January 15, 2008, 20:42:33
I've got a couple of stickers, but I'm not really going for the replica look - it's more a case of remembering Discos doing some of the most extreme off roading ever. One in the eye for those who try to say they're no use off road!
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: discowoman on January 15, 2008, 20:45:56
frontywoman, what disco you got, 200, 300 etc... ? (just out of interest)
Will be getting a 5 door 200..1991 J plater
Just always liked the look of the Camels...and the one im getting (hopefully) is a little tired in the paint department , and just got me thinking..... :evil: :twisted: :afro:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Kaneda on January 15, 2008, 20:59:19
Rather oddly they never had diff guards.
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: L90OOK on January 15, 2008, 21:06:19
i like this thread  :lol:

heres what i did


Nice truck  8)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: beast5680 on January 15, 2008, 21:14:47
hows this ? a japanese import it was originally built for jap market only apparently
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: J B on January 15, 2008, 21:30:13
i like this thread  :lol:

heres what i did


Nice truck  8)

ta, heres my favourate view
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: L90OOK on January 15, 2008, 21:37:03
Those SD rack just look so good on Disco's...nice KC Daylighters too  :afro:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Budgie on January 16, 2008, 11:20:42
If you want to go real replica then they don't have electric windows in the front.  ;)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: pux on January 16, 2008, 12:32:40
i think personnely think (im gonna get shot for saying this) you either have a proper camel truck or don't just putting stickers and a few simliar bits on just never looks right!!! just my two pence worth..........................................



















why thank you, my coat i will be going then ............ :oops:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: discowoman on January 16, 2008, 17:39:59
(http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT1357.JPG)
Distinguish the accessories/parts, find a source, buy and fit!  :lol:  :doh:
Best part is ..THATS a replica lol
have read the write up on that one.
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 16, 2008, 17:57:25
Also I think the roofrack bolted through the roof skin directly onto the roll cage to minimise the loading on the rain gutters.  BTW. a camel lookalike is also known as a shamel  :)

Neil

It does, but also becasue there is a real chance of the car being upside down on the roofrack :shock:
The normal advice "keep it shiney side up" doesn't work on the Camel :lol:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 16, 2008, 17:58:56
Oh and I'm pretty sure you need to sell the alloys and fit steels, maybe Wolf but probably Defender with 750 Michelins as mentioned above.

IIRC are the rear speings double coils too, or is that just the Defender.
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Jake on January 16, 2008, 18:35:18
(http://www.camelworld.com/images/PICT1357.JPG)
Best part is ..THATS a replica lol
have read the write up on that one.
Is it really?
They've done a super job
Not many will go to the lengths of fitting the correct cage with the correct roof rack and correct mountings for the rack (through the roof, directly onto the cage)
The front bumper is spot on too
The only thing that looks wrong is the size of the door sticker (all the others are in the correct places and correctlt sized)
Silly really, the Camel Trophy Owners club sell all the stickers, they arn't that hard to get that you should use the wrong size  :rolleyes:
Hats off though, i wouldn't have guessed it was a fake
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Budgie on January 16, 2008, 19:05:48
That's cos it's not Jake, well that's according to the owner anyway: http://www.camelworld.com/vehicle_general.htm (http://www.camelworld.com/vehicle_general.htm)  ;)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: discowoman on January 16, 2008, 19:38:27
My Mistake - I thought it was this one
http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/vehicles/camel.html
(still shouldnt have alloys tho' )
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Jake on January 16, 2008, 20:17:55
My Mistake - I thought it was this one
http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/vehicles/camel.html
(still shouldnt have alloys tho' )

The 1997 Mongolian Disco's had Alloys
(http://www.cameltrophy.es/images/vehiculos/disco97.jpg)
 :D
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Jake on January 16, 2008, 20:25:18
Ther reason i posted the Pangaea-expedition link was it shows you how to make a fake Camel
(http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/images/vehicles/camel/CamelEngineer.jpg)
Looks alright but you can see the legs of the roof rack on the gutters, a big give away to imposters
 :lol:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Budgie on January 16, 2008, 21:11:25
The 1997 Mongolian Disco's had Alloys
(http://www.cameltrophy.es/images/vehiculos/disco97.jpg)
 :D

I found a better one.  ;)

(http://www.cyber4x4.com/annonces/landrover/discovery/disco110706.jpg)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 16, 2008, 21:43:43
And a Kyak :D
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Disco Matt on January 16, 2008, 22:00:02
How the devil are you supposed to get a Disco into a kayak? I could understand one of those amphibious kits (airbags and a PTO-driven prop) but a kayak? You wouldn't even get all the people in the team into it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 16, 2008, 22:19:38
Perhaps it's for the team events, you know, fell 20 trees, strap them to 20 kyaks then float each Disco across in turn :D
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Iain C on January 17, 2008, 10:23:44
Oh and I'm pretty sure you need to sell the alloys and fit steels, maybe Wolf but probably Defender with 750 Michelins as mentioned above.

IIRC the steel wheels are actually the same as Series 2b forward control rims and have more offset.  I actually had a set on my S3 LWB with 7.50 Trac Edges...they looked the nuts and filled the arches beautifully.  They were an odd set, prior to painting in NATO green, two were pristine "BL Sandglow" (the same colour they used to paint Allegros, Marinas etc) having come off a Camel vehicle, and the other two were International Orange, having come off some dayglo fire truck somewhere!

PS don't fit treewires, they are illegal on road in the UK...

7.50 XCLs on FC rims...

(http://www.oramagazine.com/images/0410-oct/041017d-old-iron/05picture01.jpg)

7.50 XCLs on Standard rims...note less offset...

(http://www.crookbrothers.co.uk/images/lrv007.jpg)
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Ja1983 on January 18, 2008, 20:40:13
Quote from: Iain C

PS don't fit treewires, they are illegal on road in the UK...


is this the theory that they would slice up the pedestrian your bull bar just tossed in the air?  :police:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Disco Matt on January 18, 2008, 21:12:13
Perhaps it's for the team events, you know, fell 20 trees, strap them to 20 kyaks then float each Disco across in turn :D

I've seen team-built rafts before, I think I'd rather rely on my Disco walking on water than trust them!  :lol:
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 18, 2008, 21:17:45
Oh and I'm pretty sure you need to sell the alloys and fit steels, maybe Wolf but probably Defender with 750 Michelins as mentioned above.

IIRC the steel wheels are actually the same as Series 2b forward control rims and have more offset.  I actually had a set on my S3 LWB with 7.50 Trac Edges...they looked the nuts and filled the arches beautifully.  They were an odd set, prior to painting in NATO green, two were pristine "BL Sandglow" (the same colour they used to paint Allegros, Marinas etc) having come off a Camel vehicle, and the other two were International Orange, having come off some dayglo fire truck somewhere!


Are they the same rims as the 1 tonne Series 3 then?
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Iain C on January 18, 2008, 22:09:33
JA1983...I think it's something to do with the minimum cross-sectional frontal area that a component can have, but I'm not sure how Mercedes badges and radio aerials comply...

RRB, yes, I think so, although I can't remember if there are standard wheels, deep wheels and really deep wheels, or just the two varieties.

Whatever, the deep dish ones really look great!  I'm sure someone on the Series forums could tell us!
Title: Re: Camel replica
Post by: Disco Matt on January 18, 2008, 23:31:51
I think Merc badges get away with it due to not having sharp edges aligned with the direction of travel, and being sprung so they'll fold down in a collision.
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