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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: PUX on September 26, 2005, 13:51:51
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:?: hey guys has anyone bought one of those half roof rack ligt bars for there disco, im thinking of gettin one are they any good and does anyone know where the best place to get it from cheers :D
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Try "Greenlane 4x4".
One of our Disco owners has one, bolts thru guttering,comes with 4
lights and is solid piece of kit.
If your in Discovery O.C., contact "Stoveman".
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I was very tempted but £200+ for a bit of bent pipe seems ridiculously expensive to me :roll:
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Hey chris i think ur rite is a bit much so i might have to go for a disco part rear bumper and a just a light bar!! cheers guys for the help
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I think "Greenlane 4x4" do a light bar as well.
Don't know price though :wink:
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if u go on ebay u can get a light bar for 85 quid and thats free delivery and lights too is the goin price???
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if u go on ebay u can get a light bar for 85 quid and thats free delivery and lights too is the goin price???
Hi Pux,
Sounds about right, there where serveral places doing them for that price at LRO Malvern.
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one like this?
greenlane 4x4 (01623812391)
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ooooooooooooooooo MUDFROG I LIKE ALOT but i have no room for the lights on the front as i have a winch so might ave to get the light pod as well ARGH i just dont know wot to do lol
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greenlane 4x4 are about 85 quid, i got mine at towcester during the record attempt so i couldn't say on p&p.
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hey malc ordered it now frm ebay 85 quid free delivery get in
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nice one, they are good fun :twisted:
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got mine from greenlane4x4 included 4x55w lamps for 85.00 and a wire kit very well made nice powdercoated finnish and is curved to the same shape as the top of windscreen/roof
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i have fitted mine now so will have to take a picture and post it. got mine for 85 quid as well top notch bit of kit :D
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Do those bars cause some light to hit the windscreen or are they forward enough that it doesn't matter?
My lights are on the roofrack and it's far enough back that the light from the floods just catches the front of the bonnet. :wink:
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/landrovers/images/BigBoots05_26225249.jpg)
Pux, I also have a winch fitted and used a Defender A-bar mounted to the bumper to put spots on. :D
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Loking really nice Budgie.
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According to this month's LRO roof lights are illegal! Why then do so many trucks have them on?
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According to this month's LRO roof lights are illegal! Why then do so many trucks have them on?
I thought they were only illegal if they worked with main beam? dont they have to be on a seperate switch :?
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Yes that's right, if they switch separately then they are "work lights" but what's the point, if you can't use them?
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like you say though trucks run with them on the roof line dont they probably one of them grey areas :wink:
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I took this point up with a Traffic cop and he said they were height markers!
And aren't mine said I?
It seems to me that there's one law for one and.......................
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You can use them off road... that's the point ;-)
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I did fancy one of those half roof racks (or is that Bikini rack) myself for the RRC, just to put waffles etc on, but given the is-it/isn't it over legallity and the fact that I have to watch the weight I've decided not to bother for now.
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I took this point up with a Traffic cop and he said they were height markers!
And aren't mine said I?
It seems to me that there's one law for one and.......................
these https://store.truckstuff.co.uk/_B80CE94922F94629B428C363ED86B0FC/lightbars/ aint height markers
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The copper was probably thinking of the '1200 mm rule', whereby headlamps must be no more than 1200 mm above the ground. This only applies to dip beam lamps.
The only requirement for main beams and driving lamps ('optional' main beams) is that they must have a 'tell-tale' fitted, must not be outboard of the dip beams, and should be fitted in pairs.
Statutory Instrument 1989 No. 1796 (The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989) Schedule 5 (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_10.htm#nsch5) (Regulations 18 & 20) refer.
The other regulation to worry about is the 'catch-all' about dazzling other road users ...
I actually have an isolation switch on mine, which resets to 'off' every time the keys are removed from the ignition.
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Yes.
He did mention driving without due care and attention for dazling on coming vehicle.
If we all think how often we've been dazzled and nothing ever happens .(not that I'm advocating use of lights that might dazzle on coming traffic)
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Ah well i have my set on me roof now so its to late and they look the dogs so will be keeping them i have put them on a sepreate switch so it should be ok :twisted: and budgie i think i might have to get me a defender bar now :lol: i will put some pics up soon of the bar and also have fitted some light cages to me head lights looks cool now :D
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The way mine are set up is:
The 2 flood lights on the outside of the rack are wired through a switch on the dash and will only come on when the dip beam or side lights are on.
The centre 2 spots on the roof also have a dash switch and are only powered when full beam is on.
The floods don't go much further than normal dip beam and don't dazzle (not that they are used on the road anyway, but offroad you can use them when following another vehicle without reducing the night vision of the one in front.
Ya Pux, get some photos on here. :D
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I'd always thought they were illegal on the road (they should be). Why would you want sevety five lamps to light up the road, are you blind, even in the dales my 90 standard lights are fine for seeing where i'm going, the only possible use i can see is when night offroading (summat i daredn't do) to bathe the terrain in light!?!?
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ive just custom made & fitted a bar to my mates disco yesterday (will post pics when i can) & for my 90 have 4 hella jumbos (truck lights) to go on the roof & If funds allow a pair of lightforce 240's to go on the front,
IMHO 90 headlamps are naff n cant wait to add some more ilumination to my 90,
also would advise any1 to try a bit of gentle offroading after dark as its then you will see how handy extra lights are (P.S Racing offroad at night is even better,what you cant see,you cant hit) :wink:
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i will get the pics up on the site when i get home at the weekend as my work pc does not allow to do much on it lol :twisted: and i would agree wit redline and budgie there top notch at night makes my life easier driving the country lanes home after work.. with so many deer around my part it gives u more chance to spot them.
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I'd always thought they were illegal on the road (they should be). Why would you want sevety five lamps to light up the road, are you blind, even in the dales my 90 standard lights are fine for seeing where i'm going, the only possible use i can see is when night offroading (summat i daredn't do) to bathe the terrain in light!?!?
It IS an offence to have more than 6 lamps on at any time but the reason for having them above your head is that they cast no shadow that can be seen from the driving seat, they fill bomb-hloes with light that low-level lamps can't. That's why my driving lamps are so high up.
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Hi
Another reason for having them up high and on seperate switches from dipped and main beam is so you could wade accross water illuminated from the above floods with your standard lights off. This will reduce the chance of cracking the vehicle headlights glass which doesn't take kindly to sudden temperature change when wading very cold water.
Technically/legally speaking, the Over-Head spot/flood/work lights should be seperately switched from the OE lighting of the vehicle with an in-cab warning illumination lamp to remind you they are on & more importantly to remind you to turn them off when re-entering a Public Highway
Just out of interest....................
In some States of America it is actually an offense to Drive on the Public Highways without Blanking covers fitted on Overhead work/flood lights.
They are not to be used on Public Roads, it's illegal. Technically/legally speaking that would also include Byways etc, although I think you would be unlucky to be persecuted for use in that situation if you use with common sense.
If you use them for night time laning which I have and can highly recommend, as the atmosphere completely changes, common sense will of course be required. IE, If laning at night, travel slower, turn main/aux lights off with just the side lights on to on-coming traffic whether that be pedestrian, horse or another on coming vehicle. When approaching entrances to lanes, byways etc where it is not uncommon to have residental housing etc keep light pollution to a minimum to show curtiousy. Once your on the lane then you may, at your descretion wish to illuminate extra. Avoid exiting the lane/byway etc onto a public highway with all lights blazing possibly resulting in, at least a disgruntled car driver, or worse an accident.
Also bear in mind that a lot of animals come out at night and if they haven't scampered away with the noise of your vehicle, they maybe startled by your lights and freeze on the spot. Lower your lighting to a minimum and wait for them to move while enjoying nature with respect.
As far as Lorries are concerned in the UK and from what I can work out without making a specific enquiry, it appears that they use Overhead Lights that can be used as Additional flood/spot lighting but again not on Public Highways. Truck lights that appear similar to the Off Road additional lighting we're talking about also/usually incorporate an additional 5w side light which they may choose to illuminate on a public Highway.
I may stand to be corrected but that's my take on it.
Hope this help a little.
Kind Regards to all as always
gary :)
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Hmmm... bit of a grey area this... the big 8" Hellas fitted to loads of HGV's these days are wired up as 'running' or marker lights using side light bulbs only. Any spot/fog/working lights mounted above the legal height should be rendered inoperative when the side/main lights are in use. Anybody remember the Matra/Talbot Rancho in the '80's? they had working lights mounted on the scuttle panel next to the wing mirrors but they were wired so that they could not be used in conjunction with the vehicle lights.
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I remeber the Rancho, thig is with those lights they were movable whilst the vehicle was being driven so they could be aimed directly at other drivers, unlike fixed driving lights.
I read somewhere (Hella I think) that the marker lights found in continental driving lamps (trucks) are only legal in Germany. SO much for one Europe. Obviously with comercials extra marker lights are obligatory but they may not be legal on cars.
As for work lights on lanes, well if you're going slowly who's to say you aren't "working" rather than driving, too much trouoble to prove that one I think.
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Hi Range Rover Blues
Yes mate, your probably right but a little common sense goes a long way.
I wasn't trying to teach anyone suck eggs, just thought i would make it clear for anyone who wasn't quite sure, hope you don't mind.
Kindest Regards to you RRB
gary
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Well finally got round to takin some pics of the light bar also have respryed the wheels and rock sliders and added some mud-club stickers just need to spry the winch bumper 8)
regards Pux
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Just found this thread and their add in LRM, but cant get the webpages to wrok. Anyone know if theyre still trading ? Or a new webpage i can look at ? :oops:
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whats wrong with a roofrack rai, bit of angle iron, wiring kit (with switches) ??
Jim-Willy - Maybe some of us are scared of the dark?! that make you feel better? eh? ya bully! :twisted: :lol: