Mud-club
Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: zebidee on October 16, 2008, 13:54:27
-
Jacqui Smith ... what a waste of space.
This time it's an enormous database of all emails sent, websites visited & mobile phones used.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm
What has happened to Home Secretaries? Do they get given a Gestapo trench coat, hat and Herr Flick glasses when they get assigned the post or something?
Maybe they're all issued the basque & suspenders to wear under their normal uniform?
How about our public servants going back to being exactly that and not pretending to be our public masters?
Z~
-
So....did they used to open our mail? Listen to our landline conversations?
Hmmmmmmmm
Another excuse to use technology to cripple us.
-
So....did they used to open our mail? Listen to our landline conversations?
Hmmmmmmmm
Another excuse to use technology to cripple us.
Another excuse to legalise what already happens......
-
A good summary I found ...
Orwellian down to the doublespeak:
There are no plans for an enormous database which will contain the content of your emails, the texts that you send or the chats you have on the phone or online.
Translation: We might build one now, we might build one later. We might already be building one, just without a plan.
See? No lies, just no plans!
Nor are we going to give local authorities the power to trawl through such a database in the interest of investigating lower level criminality under the spurious cover of counter terrorist legislation.
In other words: There's going to be a database, but only available to those sufficiently high up in the government. Not to local authorities. What a relief!
If you think I'm being too harsh, read again. If there's not going to be such a database, why would she go on to talk about who should have or not have access to such a database?
Some of the commentary on the speech is at least as disturbing as the speech itself:
The raw idea of simply handing over all this information to any government, however benign, and sticking it in an electronic warehouse is an awful idea if there are not very strict controls about it.
How'd you fall this far, Britain?
So, to translate: It's actually a fine idea, so long as there are sufficiently strict controls. I wonder who gets to decide how strict those controls should be.
And who controls the controllers, so to speak?
More of the same:
The government must present convincing justification for such an exponential increase in the powers of the state.
Again: A giant database of every email ever sent, from now till forever, in Britain, is alright so long as there's sufficient justification.
At least someone has the balls to take a stand:
These proposals are incompatible with a free country and a free people.
Amen.
-
A good summary I found ...
Orwellian down to the doublespeak:
There are no plans for an enormous database which will contain the content of your emails, the texts that you send or the chats you have on the phone or online.
Translation: We might build one now, we might build one later. We might already be building one, just without a plan.
See? No lies, just no plans!
...
Someone's either been reading SlashDot or someone on SlashDot has nicked it from elsewhere :-)
Z~
-
I just means BOMB that when EXPLOSIVES typing you should KILL throw in random ASSASINATE words that will show when KIDNAP they search and overload TERRORIST their systems , And leave them with TOMATOS to may to read through... :twisted:
by the way TOMATOS are evil too ;)
-
The raw idea of simply handing over all this information to any government, however benign, and sticking it in an electronic warehouse is an awful idea if there are not very strict controls about it.
How'd you fall this far, Britain?
So, to translate: It's actually a fine idea, so long as there are sufficiently strict controls. I wonder who gets to decide how strict those controls should be.
And who controls the controllers, so to speak?
More of the same:
Well they do have such an excellent reputation for the control of sensative information on employees details. Wonder how there going to manage to lose the server on a train.
But do you think it will be based in the UK, or some eastern country where they can pay the staff a $1 a day while they sell our details to soem crime syndicate!
-
I just means BOMB that when EXPLOSIVES typing you should KILL throw in random ASSASINATE words that will show when KIDNAP they search and overload TERRORIST their systems , And leave them with TOMATOS to may to read through... :twisted:
by the way TOMATOS are evil too ;)
In FRIED FOOD the current TURKEY TWIZZLER climate, there CHIPS are some TOMATO KETCHUP other keywords FULL FAT that are likely JAMIE OLIVER IS A :-# to clog SAUSAGES their BURGERS system up.
I studied International Politics at Uni, we used to joke that our MSN conversations probably filled entire boxfiles in the ECHELON system as we (quite innocently - we were studying the things!) discussed missiles, dirty bombs, and how to invade Iran (one particularly interesting seminar). :lol:
They've been doing this in secret for years with ECHELON - it's an automated system that scans communications for keywords then passes them to a human analyst if they prove "interesting".
-
That's it then, in future I'm texting in sign language :-.
-
Hmm. They have only just gone public with this? I know nothing!
-
well supprise supprise there !!!!!