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Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 14:57:38
Hi all,

Been looking around for tyres as my Grizzley Claws have about had it! But im struggling to find what i want!

Im after a 33x12.5r15 but dont seem to be able to find any listing of the Insa Turbo Special Track in that size (seems most are 16inch for you landrover owners) and the only thing i can find close enough for Simex is the Jungle Trecker 2 34x11.5r15 and i want the Extreme Trekker!

Anyone know of any good suplliers where i might find the right size? :?  :?

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: TDi90 on December 19, 2007, 15:39:01
GO SIMEX

seriously, its worth the extra money. thicker sidewalls, thicker tread pattern. just wait for dan... he will tell you....  :twisted:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 15:48:35
Quote from: "TDi90"
GO SIMEX

seriously, its worth the extra money. thicker sidewalls, thicker tread pattern. just wait for dan... he will tell you....  :twisted:


But where can i get the right size from? Been on Devon 4x4's site and they dont seem to list the size im after and they seem a little expensive from what i remember :shock:  I could be wrong though :oops:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 19, 2007, 18:03:22
why dont you want the jungle trekker ?
there a damn good tyre,
far better waring than the ET,
better on rocks
better in certain mud types
less brutal on the half shafts, diffs and cv's
just a thought to consider  :wink:
dan
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 18:06:04
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
why dont you want the jungle trekker ?
there a damn good tyre,
far better waring than the ET,
better on rocks
better in certain mud types
less brutal on the half shafts, diffs and cv's
just a thought to consider  :wink:
dan


Not wide enough :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 19, 2007, 18:14:37
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
why dont you want the jungle trekker ?
there a damn good tyre,
far better waring than the ET,
better on rocks
better in certain mud types
less brutal on the half shafts, diffs and cv's
just a thought to consider  :wink:
dan


Not wide enough :wink:

Cheers

Mark


sorry, buts whats the obsession with wide tyres ?

thinner are better IMO

btw IIRC they do a 34, 11.50 x 15 its actualy a smidge over 12inch wide when on rim  :wink:
my simex are 10.5's...they measured 11.5

dan
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 18:41:25
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
why dont you want the jungle trekker ?
there a damn good tyre,
far better waring than the ET,
better on rocks
better in certain mud types
less brutal on the half shafts, diffs and cv's
just a thought to consider  :wink:
dan


Not wide enough :wink:

Cheers

Mark


sorry, buts whats the obsession with wide tyres ?

thinner are better IMO

btw IIRC they do a 34, 11.50 x 15 its actualy a smidge over 12inch wide when on rim  :wink:
my simex are 10.5's...they measured 11.5

dan


Might seem like an obsession by most people but i have my reasons!

The Hilux axles are not as wide as frontera axles by nearly 1 1/2 inches, so i need to go as wide as possible for stability especially when the truck is 11 inch over stock height :shock:  I dont fancy running spacers on 10J rims with a negative 21 offset on a truck that weighs in at 2400kg's , so really nice wide tyres it has to be :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: Jake on December 19, 2007, 19:58:51
Quote from: "666"
Been on Devon 4x4's site and they dont seem to list the size im after and they seem a little expensive from what i remember :shock:  I could be wrong though :oops:

You could always try ringing the office?
Sometimes decent deals can be done too  8)
The website is very out of date and is due an update asap  :wink:
 :D
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 20:08:02
Quote from: "Jake"
Quote from: "666"
Been on Devon 4x4's site and they dont seem to list the size im after and they seem a little expensive from what i remember :shock:  I could be wrong though :oops:

You could always try ringing the office?
Sometimes decent deals can be done too  8)
The website is very out of date and is due an update asap  :wink:
 :D


Thanks, I may just do that :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: generation-x on December 19, 2007, 20:40:55
!!!thread hijack!!!

soz mark but just to say nice write up in TOR and a letter too :lol:


simon
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 20:53:59
Quote from: "generation-x"
!!!thread hijack!!!

soz mark but just to say nice write up in TOR and a letter too :lol:


simon


Thanks Simon,

Should be a few individual features later in the year on the modified trucks :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: clbarclay on December 19, 2007, 23:12:14
Just how much do you want an extreme trekker tread pattern over any tread pattern?

kumho do the KL71 in 33x12.50 or alternatively something like super swampers, they do a 33x13.50 version of the LTB tread.
http://www.supertrux.com/acatalog/Super_Swamper_LTB.html
I have a set of LTBs waiting for the V8, but I need to sort out the wheel arches first before I can test them in anger.

Wide tyres can be a good thing, though the ideal width is very terrain dependant. The same goes for the tread pattern as well.
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: DEANO3528 on December 19, 2007, 23:27:19
My mate has that size KL71 on his RR.
Excellent tyre especially on road for something with such open tread. Amazingly quiet and grippy.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/DEANO3528/others/kl71.jpg)
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 19, 2007, 23:47:55
Funny i have been just looking at them!
I have been looking to get the best off road tyre i can afford in the size i want, but didnt expect it to be so difficult :shock:  If i find the Simex are out of my price range then the KL 71's may be my next best bet :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 20, 2007, 16:04:42
Ok, Ive gone and done it :shock:

After Jakes post i decided to ring Devon 4x4 today and the prices on the website are quite a bit different :shock:

Got myself a set of 33x11.5 r15 jungle trekkas and a set of 10j rims on order!

Xmas present to myself :D  Dont know what SWMBO is gonna say though :?  :?

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: Bulli on December 20, 2007, 17:29:10
get more offset in the wheels if you can. that will help with stability.
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 20, 2007, 17:41:37
Quote from: "666"
Ok, Ive gone and done it :shock:

After Jakes post i decided to ring Devon 4x4 today and the prices on the website are quite a bit different :shock:

Got myself a set of 33x11.5 r15 jungle trekkas and a set of 10j rims on order!

Xmas present to myself :D  Dont know what SWMBO is gonna say though :?  :?

Cheers

Mark

 :roll:  :roll:
they not to narrow for you  :tongue:

10j, kin hell, you could curl up inside them things there that bigger offset  :lol:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 20, 2007, 17:54:18
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Ok, Ive gone and done it :shock:

After Jakes post i decided to ring Devon 4x4 today and the prices on the website are quite a bit different :shock:

Got myself a set of 33x11.5 r15 jungle trekkas and a set of 10j rims on order!

Xmas present to myself :D  Dont know what SWMBO is gonna say though :?  :?

Cheers

Mark

 :roll:  :roll:
they not to narrow for you  :tongue:

10j, kin hell, you could curl up inside them things there that bigger offset  :lol:


They have managed to find a wheel supplier that has some rims with a negative offset, so should be ok :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 21, 2007, 09:27:14
Well i cant fault the service from Devon 4x4, my tyres were here by 9am today :shock:  Looking forward to getting them fitted now :D  :D

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 21, 2007, 17:46:56
Quote from: "666"
Well i cant fault the service from Devon 4x4, my tyres were here by 9am today :shock:  Looking forward to getting them fitted now :D  :D

Cheers

Mark


bet you didnt have a christmas card from them  :tongue:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: TDi90 on December 21, 2007, 18:44:00
i did so there  :tongue:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 21, 2007, 19:39:54
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Well i cant fault the service from Devon 4x4, my tyres were here by 9am today :shock:  Looking forward to getting them fitted now :D  :D

Cheers

Mark


bet you didnt have a christmas card from them  :tongue:


No i didnt, and its not all ended that well either :(

Unfortunatley they got the rim size wrong and i was sent 7J's from there supplier when i had asked for 10J's! And unfortunatley there suppliers cannot get any 10J's so i have had to order them from elsewhere and now wont get them till the new year :cry:  :cry:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 22, 2007, 12:42:19
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Well i cant fault the service from Devon 4x4, my tyres were here by 9am today :shock:  Looking forward to getting them fitted now :D  :D

Cheers

Mark


bet you didnt have a christmas card from them  :tongue:


No i didnt, and its not all ended that well either :(

Unfortunatley they got the rim size wrong and i was sent 7J's from there supplier when i had asked for 10J's! And unfortunatley there suppliers cannot get any 10J's so i have had to order them from elsewhere and now wont get them till the new year :cry:  :cry:

Cheers

Mark


cant you fit the simex to your current rims just get you through christmas ?
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 22, 2007, 13:03:21
I have got a decent set of 255x75 Wranglers on 7J's at the mo, I was hoping to get the tyres and rims sorted out before the new year as time is limited after the 1st with a laning trip planned for the 11th, 12th & 13th

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 22, 2007, 13:18:49
Quote from: "666"
I have got a decent set of 255x75 Wranglers on 7J's at the mo, I was hoping to get the tyres and rims sorted out before the new year as time is limited after the 1st with a laning trip planned for the 11th, 12th & 13th

Cheers

Mark


wel, cant you fit the simex to them rims just to get you out the miether
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 22, 2007, 15:02:33
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
I have got a decent set of 255x75 Wranglers on 7J's at the mo, I was hoping to get the tyres and rims sorted out before the new year as time is limited after the 1st with a laning trip planned for the 11th, 12th & 13th

Cheers

Mark


wel, cant you fit the simex to them rims just to get you out the miether


Not realy, the standard frontera rims dont have a very good negative offset. Any articulation and i think these tyres would rip out the inner arches :shock:

Look so much better than the worn out grizzleys though dont they :wink: (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSC00196.jpg)

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 22, 2007, 16:16:41
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
I have got a decent set of 255x75 Wranglers on 7J's at the mo, I was hoping to get the tyres and rims sorted out before the new year as time is limited after the 1st with a laning trip planned for the 11th, 12th & 13th

Cheers

Mark


wel, cant you fit the simex to them rims just to get you out the miether


Not realy, the standard frontera rims dont have a very good negative offset. Any articulation and i think these tyres would rip out the inner arches :shock:

Look so much better than the worn out grizzleys though dont they :wink: (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSC00196.jpg)

Cheers

Mark


oh thats a [!Expletive Deleted!]  :cry:  :cry:
you got proper rubber now, there bound be better  :wink:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 22, 2007, 16:47:17
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
oh thats a !Expletive Deleted!  :cry:  :cry:
you got proper rubber now, there bound be better  :wink:


Have to admit, im glad i decided to go for the Simex! They look a quality tyre and im looking forward to trying them out on the rocky lanes we have planned for January :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: Gav_T on December 22, 2007, 18:15:44
How much did you end up paying for the simex's?

I keep looking at kumho kl71's but im not sure they will cope in mud and them simexs look sooooooooooooo much better  :D  :D

PM me if you dont want to say on here.

Gav.
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 22, 2007, 18:38:11
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
oh thats a !Expletive Deleted!  :cry:  :cry:
you got proper rubber now, there bound be better  :wink:


Have to admit, im glad i decided to go for the Simex! They look a quality tyre and im looking forward to trying them out on the rocky lanes we have planned for January :wink:

Cheers

Mark


mark, just make sure you let them down to 18psi offroad  :wink:

here is a tip for you though
to soften the side walls up as there megger stiff
when you fit them, drive 5 miles or so on them with only about 10psi in, they soften up a treat and there way better offroad then when let down  :wink:  :wink:

the advantage of the JT's aswel is....you can do a 5mm re-cut on them when there low  :wink:

dan
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 22, 2007, 20:50:04
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
oh thats a !Expletive Deleted!  :cry:  :cry:
you got proper rubber now, there bound be better  :wink:


Have to admit, im glad i decided to go for the Simex! They look a quality tyre and im looking forward to trying them out on the rocky lanes we have planned for January :wink:

Cheers

Mark


mark, just make sure you let them down to 18psi offroad  :wink:

here is a tip for you though
to soften the side walls up as there megger stiff
when you fit them, drive 5 miles or so on them with only about 10psi in, they soften up a treat and there way better offroad then when let down  :wink:  :wink:

the advantage of the JT's aswel is....you can do a 5mm re-cut on them when there low  :wink:

dan


Thanks Dan,

Will post a pic when i get them fitted  :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 22, 2007, 20:52:07
i am gonna sin here !!!
and its gonna be painful  :cry:
but

that frontera is gonna look the danglies with them tyres on !!!!!!
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 22, 2007, 21:28:00
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
i am gonna sin here !!!
and its gonna be painful  :cry:
but

that frontera is gonna look the danglies with them tyres on !!!!!!


I do hope so :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: Xtremeteam on December 22, 2007, 21:34:58
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
oh thats a !Expletive Deleted!  :cry:  :cry:
you got proper rubber now, there bound be better  :wink:


Have to admit, im glad i decided to go for the Simex! They look a quality tyre and im looking forward to trying them out on the rocky lanes we have planned for January :wink:

Cheers

Mark


mark, just make sure you let them down to 18psi offroad  :wink:

here is a tip for you though
to soften the side walls up as there megger stiff
when you fit them, drive 5 miles or so on them with only about 10psi in, they soften up a treat and there way better offroad then when let down  :wink:  :wink:

the advantage of the JT's aswel is....you can do a 5mm re-cut on them when there low  :wink:

dan
i told you that wee tip for when we get our creepy crawlers :wink:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on December 22, 2007, 22:51:24
Quote from: "Xtremeteam"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
Quote from: "666"
Quote from: "Traybackdan"
oh thats a !Expletive Deleted!  :cry:  :cry:
you got proper rubber now, there bound be better  :wink:


Have to admit, im glad i decided to go for the Simex! They look a quality tyre and im looking forward to trying them out on the rocky lanes we have planned for January :wink:

Cheers

Mark


mark, just make sure you let them down to 18psi offroad  :wink:

here is a tip for you though
to soften the side walls up as there megger stiff
when you fit them, drive 5 miles or so on them with only about 10psi in, they soften up a treat and there way better offroad then when let down  :wink:  :wink:

the advantage of the JT's aswel is....you can do a 5mm re-cut on them when there low  :wink:

dan
i told you that wee tip for when we get our creepy crawlers :wink:

to make them grow  :lol:
i did it with my simex when new
simon told me  :lol:
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: Drift on December 23, 2007, 01:28:20
Mark, are you off to North Wales in Jan ?

V gully perhaps ?
Title: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on December 23, 2007, 09:37:49
Quote from: "Drift"
Mark, are you off to North Wales in Jan ?

V gully perhaps ?


Nope, we are starting nearer the south then moving north and hope to be around Strata Florida saturday evening (i love that place) then moving a little further north sunday. That is all dependant on weather conditions though (please please snow) :wink:

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on January 14, 2008, 16:24:37
Have to say these simex are worth every penny!
I dont think i will ever put a different tyre on again :cool: :cool: :cool:
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSCF2088.jpg)


However on my recent trip (and first trip) over Sarn Helen i noticed muddy tracks parralell to the main track, they look as though they had recently been driven too! Is this normal or are we going to end up get this lane closed too :evil: :evil:

 (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSCF2162.jpg)

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: extreme90 on January 14, 2008, 18:56:07
Have to say these simex are worth every penny!
I dont think i will ever put a different tyre on again :cool: :cool: :cool:
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSCF2088.jpg)


However on my recent trip (and first trip) over Sarn Helen i noticed muddy tracks parralell to the main track, they look as though they had recently been driven too! Is this normal or are we going to end up get this lane closed too :evil: :evil:

 (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSCF2162.jpg)

Cheers

Mark

damn
i new it would look good
mods delete the post pleaseeeeeee  :doh: :doh:
 :lol:
dan
Title: Re: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on January 14, 2008, 19:12:11
You wont want me to post pics like these then ;)

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSCF2205.jpg)
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/l666mud/DSCF2204.jpg)

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: Jake on January 14, 2008, 19:47:44
Your Fronty looks well cool with them on
Very cool
Glad the wheel situation was sorted out quicky   :shocked:
 :cool:
Title: Re: Simex or Insa Turbo?
Post by: 666 on January 14, 2008, 19:55:40
Your Fronty looks well cool with them on
Very cool
Glad the wheel situation was sorted out quicky   :shocked:
 :cool:

Had to source the wheels myself, got them from Silverline and were delivered the 3rd of Jan as promised by them! All turned out good in the end :cool:

Cheers

Mark
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