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Vehicle & Technical => Suzuki => Topic started by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 12:55:04

Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 12:55:04
What do ya need to look out for when buying a sammy?

How should it feel when you drive etc... noises, handling yada. If I find one local in good nick i want to know :idea:  :twisted:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 23, 2006, 13:20:18
RUST!  :twisted:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 15:28:01
rust on bodywork i ain't really worried about, I'd do a crash course in welding and cut out and put in new plates in. Also why you need a good paint finish? I could do a rivet and hand paint job like LR's ;)

What else.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Mart on July 23, 2006, 16:18:29
check behind the plastic arches and skirts if possible, the obv ones like blue smoke etc still count, rides a fair bit bumpy to say the least, if its your first 4x4 it'll sound strange as you get the drivetrain noise, if it doesnt tick over well the carbs probably nacked (notorious problem on 413's) give it a rock from side to side and listen if the shox sound ok.

there will be quite a bit of play in the steering thats normal and can be adjusted slightly, other than that its a fun car to own and drive.

hope ya find a good un
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 16:41:04
prob is all the good body ones are down south. Not around the north.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Mart on July 23, 2006, 16:45:19
just make sure you check the rear inner arches there a nightmare and rust straight down the seam
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 17:01:41
god if they such a prob i'll get a jimny :P or i'll be spending all my time doing bodywork  :cry:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Mart on July 23, 2006, 19:41:29
there fun to drive and own its just crap japanese metal its a case of do you spend more on a jimny or get a sammy get it right and still have money for mods for the price you'd get a jimny for?
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: landraver on July 23, 2006, 19:44:46
Quote from: "zippy"
god if they such a prob i'll get a jimny :P or i'll be spending all my time doing bodywork  :cry:


If you're worried about bodywork, (you know what I'm going to say)................buy a Landy!! :lol:  :lol:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 20:56:51
Quote from: "Mart"
there fun to drive and own its just crap japanese metal its a case of do you spend more on a jimny or get a sammy get it right and still have money for mods for the price you'd get a jimny for?


can you layer and sand smooth hammerite?

And give me a break down plz how roughly how much a sammy would cost to  get semi decent modifed with LPG and complete bodywork dip and spray.

See if we can't get a comparison and idea :)
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Mart on July 23, 2006, 21:04:52
dunno mate mine cost £600 with 5mth t+t had to do a bit of welding on the rear arch but not too bad.

unsure of the lpg conversion

why not just paint it by hand using the paint they use on buses goes on and looks ok with a brush or roller cant think of the name but it would be a dam site cheaper than taking it to a spray shop.

then you can lift suspension fit wider wheels and fit mt's for a pretty capable off roader
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: landraver on July 23, 2006, 21:12:59
You can smooth & polish Hammerite but you have to be very gentle with the rubbing down, & give it time to fully harden before you start

Jeff
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 23, 2006, 22:27:10
can you easily take off all the panels without having to rip out the dash?
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 24, 2006, 11:32:12
what is a good price for a 96 nearly immacluate sammy 1.3 sport with hard top?
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 24, 2006, 14:19:18
some people want silly money- there was the same one advertised for £4k in a certain 4x4 mag (doubt anyone called!)

more like the £1k mark if it is really smart
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 24, 2006, 15:27:44
well jimny's coming down to like 1700 and got better spec and rougly the same mileage.

Just wondering why i would choose a sammy over a jimny now, god life is a bitch.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: marjan on July 24, 2006, 16:42:11
Basically, if you can afford a Jimny then get one as they are a lot better build quality. I had a Samurai but the Jimny was out of my price range so I bought a P Reg SWB Vitara (£800) and it's been great so far.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 24, 2006, 18:19:38
anyone wanna 2nd this motion?  :roll:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 24, 2006, 18:47:24
Quote from: "zippy"
well jimny's coming down to like 1700 and got better spec and rougly the same mileage.

Just wondering why i would choose a sammy over a jimny now, god life is a bitch.


where have u seen them at that price  :shock:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 24, 2006, 18:48:08
erm autotrader :)
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 25, 2006, 09:53:45
im off to hunt autotrader!
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Littledan on July 25, 2006, 11:55:02
Quote from: "Mart"
dunno mate mine cost £600 with 5mth t+t had to do a bit of welding on the rear arch but not too bad.

unsure of the lpg conversion

why not just paint it by hand using the paint they use on buses goes on and looks ok with a brush or roller cant think of the name but it would be a dam site cheaper than taking it to a spray shop.

then you can lift suspension fit wider wheels and fit mt's for a pretty capable off roader


wow mine only costed me £100 quid and all it needs is a little bit of welding on rear arch

dan
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 25, 2006, 13:55:25
this is the one i was looking at

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&item=110012766914&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

but he didn't even accept a £700 quid offer off a guy.Think he wants stupid money for it.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: fudge on July 25, 2006, 19:14:04
I paid £ 400.... 1 months tax, 6 months test, decent tyres all round (which I replaced with MT's) very tidy car all in all and no rot.... I destroyed the clutch it was fine and I destroyed the exhaust....
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: marjan on July 25, 2006, 19:21:12
Quote from: "zippy"
this is the one i was looking at

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&item=110012766914&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

but he didn't even accept a £700 quid offer off a guy.Think he wants stupid money for it.


Just had a look and to be honest that will probably go for between £800 & £950 as it is a very nice example.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Paul.K/LuckyTrucker on July 25, 2006, 19:22:07
Hi there, I know I have banged on about this before but if you want an off roader go for the Sammy, I have one. If you want an every day car that is capable off road but not as capable as a Sammy get a Vitara. I had one a few years ago. A 100 mile journey in a Sammy would frighten the life out of you, a Vitara though it still not a Vectra / Escourt it will still do the journey with some comfort. When you get to your journeys' end you can then go YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAA off road with it and then drive home. Hope this has helped and not confused the issue.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 25, 2006, 19:39:54
prob getting a jimny which is a sammy but better looking ;) and airbags :D
coz they coming down to match a mint sammy and they same chassis ;)
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 25, 2006, 21:07:57
and guess what in europe you can get jimny in diesel.

1.3 VVT.

63 KW (86 HP)
(fuel consumption entire  7.3 l/100km, CO2- Output  174 g/km)
38mpg

1.5 DiSS (turbo)

63 KW (86 HP)
(fuel consumption entire  6.1 l/100km, CO2- Output  162 g/km)
46mpg

UK dealers are pathetic when it comes to options yet EU get all the good stuff.

But ya can't LPG a diesel  :cry:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 25, 2006, 21:50:31
Quote from: "zippy"
this is the one i was looking at

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&item=110012766914&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

but he didn't even accept a £700 quid offer off a guy.Think he wants stupid money for it.


If i was the seller i would be wanting silly money for it- it looks VERY tidy and my mate bought that exact hardtop from a dealership and it cost £600 alone!

Plus as the auction has 4 days to go it will beat £700 in bids i recon
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 25, 2006, 22:51:35
he obviously wants silly money with a offer of £1000, and as soon as you get over that money jimny is a better option.

Has anyone driven a jimny and sammy?
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 25, 2006, 22:54:30
yep- driven both and own a lwb sammy (which is fab)

just looked on autotrader for my area- cheapest jimny is £2600 but the model i would buy is still £4500...

...rats!  :lol:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 25, 2006, 23:00:56
there was 2 for under 2000 on autotrader change your options with distance.

SO how do they both compare for drive and comfort etc...
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: marjan on July 26, 2006, 07:27:35
Quote from: "Paul.K/LuckyTrucker"
Hi there, I know I have banged on about this before but if you want an off roader go for the Sammy, I have one. If you want an every day car that is capable off road but not as capable as a Sammy get a Vitara. I had one a few years ago. A 100 mile journey in a Sammy would frighten the life out of you, a Vitara though it still not a Vectra / Escort it will still do the journey with some comfort. When you get to your journeys' end you can then go YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAA off road with it and then drive home. Hope this has helped and not confused the issue.


Yep, I think you have summed that up in a nutshell, I have had both and the Vit is great for road journeys but the Sammy was definately more capable off road. Jimny is a great compromise of both but still a bit pricey, cheapest I have seen was £1600 for an S Reg.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 26, 2006, 09:24:04
my sammy is great to drive (when it goes  :oops: ) a jimny is more modern obviously but you have to take into account getting spares and stuff. Lots of people have sammy bits lying around but not many jimny bits!

Plus if u scratch/dent an older car it isnt quite the end of the world  :wink:
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: zippy on July 26, 2006, 12:28:59
jimny been out since 1998 spares shouldn't be a prob. So the only issues is panels, which isn't reallyaprob as alot comewith half plastic.
Title: buying a sammy?
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 29, 2006, 14:14:00
well the black sammi on ebay went up to £845 and was then withdrawn from sale, so i suspect he got offered a grand for it and took the cash.
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