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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Alex.Y on July 09, 2008, 23:05:54
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a mate of mine has had his 90 stolen in broad daylight in the middle of the peak district.
he tucked it out of the way so visibility from a road wasn't possible, still they had it away.
I suppose middle of the day they get bored in there caravans bare knuckle fighting so they might as well go a nick something.
so this leads me to ask, what can be done to immobilise a td5 completely, so only the rightful owner can drive it?
i know you will never stop people getting into one but stopping them 100% from driving it away would be good.
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Motion sensing napalm launchers?
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What points you in the direction of the traveller community in particular? and which particular part of the Peak District. Thieving scumbags come in all shapes and often have pre arranged locations to take their kill - often a workshop where the parts are broken down and sold individually.
As for being able to prevent it, there have been reports on previous threads like this about a device that prevents the clutch being used. An old trick my dad told me about (during the war) was to remove the rotor arm - not so easy these days perhaps.
The other of course is a tracker but they are difficult to hide in a Defender - however I know of two people who have recovered their Disco's with trackers AND allowed the Police to arrest those who took them, so I also have one fitted now.
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I guess it all depends on the method by which the vehicle is being stolen - if it's by breaking into your house, nicking the car keys and simply driving off, then something as simple as removing the fuel pump relay or fuse would render the vehicle inoperative...........
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Mines got a little key fob immobiliser on it - i know this can be bypassd fairly easily, but it should stop chancers and delay someone a little..
I also remove the steering wheel from it at night, and hide it in it when its not parked at home.
Im going to get a 'clutch claw' at some point in my life, and a riser bar for the driveway.
Ps Mr Thief - forget the above. Its all lies.
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There are loads of ways of immobilising a vehicle. A cut out switch that cuts the power to the fuel pump or coil is easy enough to sort out. With the switch well hidden, it would take a thief (house or caravan dweller) quite a while to work out what was wrong.
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i like your way of thinking bush tucker man!
anyone nicking a vehicle in broad daylight surely must have some pikey in the family tree somewhere so it not totally a wild assumption!
some sort of switch to the fuel pump may be the way forward. how big are the tracking devices?
i have heard about a device that prevents the clutch from operating, any body used one of these?
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Thats what i was on about - its called a clutch claw.
massive lump of yellow metal that fits over the clutch and break pedal - idea being that the clutch and brake work as one.
Clutch Claw
The NoiseKiller Clutch Claw has achieved wide acclaim from the motoring press, and has been chosen by Scottish Office and City Mex to protect their LCV commercial fleets.
In attack tests carried out by FAST CAR Magazine using a professional car thief, the Clutch Claw resisted attack for 30mins and 58secs - almost twice as long as it's nearest Thatcham approved rival.
Most mechanical security devices rely on restricting the steering wheel from being turned and most are overcome in seconds by attacking the wheel not the device.
The Clutch Claw locks the clutch and the brake pedals together, thus stopping the vehicle from being driven. The new "Mark 4" Clutch Claw uses a series of pegs located under the top box, these are adjustable along the length of the top box. Once the pegs are set the device becomes "dedicated" to that vehicle, locking the two pedals together and "jamming" them against the bulkhead/floor of the vehicle. The Clutch Claw does not require any additional "bolt on" brackets.
The Clutch Claw will fit virtually all LCV's (Ford Transits, Peugeot Boxers etc.) 4 x 4's and Cars that have at least 75mm of pedal bar showing below the dash.
Noisekiller Clutch Claw is the perfect security device for all
Land Rover models.
Once the Clutch Claw is set, it can be located and locked in seconds, and is small enough to be stored under the seat. The key is not required to lock it.
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i like your way of thinking bush tucker man!
Thanks.
What's that South African device that utilises a network of pipes, proximity sensors, an igniter & propane gas??
Failing that, there's always the Trunk Monkey (http://www.trunkmonkeyad.com/4qt.htm) security system
Of course he's not really a Monkey!
It'd be a bit like calling 'The Librarian' a Monkey. Ie; Painful
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only 2 weeks ago i looked out my bedroom window to see 3 of them in my 110 at 2:30am
lucky my mrs heard the back door open
shout out the window of some choice words and they were gone, ,
Ive taken the approach that i want to stop the satnav theives ie chancers and also cause as long a delay as possible
so ive gone with paddlocked back door and a carvan type secure door locks for the front. ive got a sinle shock alarm with tilt sensor so if it gets dragged onto a lorry i can hear it or some one gets in. it will at least wake me as i never leave it too far away unless it cant be helped.
Id rather them break glass or force a door than just take it away. police came around thou and took prints and reckon they have them on file and building up a case so if you have a minnor break in its worth reporting as your minnor one might add to a long list and get them sent away for longer.
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One of my friends used to take the HT leads out overnight...tends to make starting difficult....
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I thought about asking the wife to sleep in it.
She hates being woken up suddenly, & they'd soon leg it :lol:
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Get yersel' a GBFO rottie ot sumsuch and let the hound guard the vehicle :dance:
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Get yersel' a GBFO rottie ot sumsuch and let the hound guard the vehicle :dance:
A friend of mine has a Generic Safety Device (as Ross Floyd, of 'LRM', calls it) installed in his van, always armed & constantly monitoring the perimeters
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Get yersel' a GBFO rottie ot sumsuch and let the hound guard the vehicle :dance:
A friend of mine has a Generic Safety Device (as Ross Floyd, of 'LRM', calls it) installed in his van, always armed & constantly monitoring the perimeters
thats all ready done, my GBBFO rottie at 9 stone at 19 mounths old [buster] wont let eany one up the back off my house where my range rover it parked or let eanyone get in it ourther than famley, gos mad like the pickey found out one night :lol: :-k note to self need to fix window and put beware of dog stickers up :-k :-k may be not beware off dog stickers its more fun watching them poop them self and running down the street :afro:
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ive got a sticker in my wagon that says:
!!WARNING!! PROTECTED BY A GUY WITH A GUN!
that way if it ever goes to court, ive warned the theiving sods!! some 40g AAA sent their way usually has a much better effect than a car alarm.
not had to use it yet though! or is it because my sportraks not worth nicking?
hmm!
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there is something on the market called either blue jacker or black jacker. what i does is when you start the vehicle a l e d flashes at you and you press a series of buttons not as big as a key pad. it ill ask you this 2more times if you don't put the code in. but you can still drive it. on the 3rd attempt it simply kills the car (when at a safe speed) leavin the theives stranded with a dead car. i think the whole proccess takes about 20 secs so their a safe distance away while you can ring the police.
as the name suggests it was designed for car jacking and is very effective as there is minimal danage to the car other than a kerbed alloy!
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Failing that, there's always the Trunk Monkey (http://www.trunkmonkeyad.com/4qt.htm) security system
Of course he's not really a Monkey!
It'd be a bit like calling 'The Librarian' a Monkey. Ie; Painful
Best to keep clear of the UU Library and not to anger Ook!
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ive got a sticker in my wagon that says:
!!WARNING!! PROTECTED BY A GUY WITH A GUN!
that way if it ever goes to court, ive warned the theiving sods!!
yeah that should keep you out of prison.
and that sticker isn't grounds to have your FAC revoked either :police:
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and that sticker isn't grounds to have your FAC revoked either :police:
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beleive it or not they let i have a ticket!lol
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I've got a Spyeye, another South African device that unfortunately doesn't doesn't use propane.. But it is good for alerting you to intruders, and has a range of around 100m.
http://globalsec.co.za/product_info.php?products_id=261
Picture hopefully attached!
Tom
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just to add my 2 penneth i got a discloc and tho may not be invicible think there pretty good, my parents go staying at a camp site nr buxton and apparently all the farmers landys have been nicked from around there recenlty,
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Clipable ECU which make it removable easily, when you need to leave it in a place where it may be stolen, It is possible that someone may have an ECU but they will also need something like nanocom to set injector codes to get the engine to run properly(if my understanding is correct it will run but not very well possibly just tick over).
Another alternative would be to either remove fuses to ECU or put a relay in to all 12V positive(direct feeds from battery) to the ECU and switch that controls them all place the switch out of sight (would baffle some-one replacing ECU).
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i've got a Cat 1 immobiliser on my Disco, and use a disc-lok if i park it anywhere not on camera.
i've had a landrover nicked, which had a proper tracker in it (£400 worth) and it was never seen again.. total waste of money because they rely on the police actually getting off their backsides and finding it... :roll: which is the biggest problem.
quote from my local police station 48 hours after it was nicked;
"if we happen to come accross it, we'll let you know"
don't waste your money.... :evil: