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Title: buying a cherokee
Post by: zagamac on December 29, 2008, 00:41:33
Hi
Thinking of buying a diesel Cherokee of around 98 to 01 vintage, what should I be looking out for?

Currently own a Discovery, will a Cherokee impress me?

Thanks
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on December 29, 2008, 01:14:47
Buy a petrol one...life will be better
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: The Smiths on December 30, 2008, 12:39:09
Do search in this forum ;) - already been posted god knows how many times :roll:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on December 30, 2008, 21:59:41
Buy a petrol.... :wink:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: J66P on December 30, 2008, 22:54:22
Buy a petrol on lpg ;)
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: bunnykins on December 31, 2008, 10:13:12
grand cherokee :
if you are not doing mega miles, buy the 4ltr as these engines should be bullitproof [ simple straight 6 ]
the v8 is even better if you are after sound and performance. i was told not to buy the diesels versions
for the year cars you mentioned as they tend to have problems. not for extreme offroad. good for comfort
ride and motorway cruising.

later diesel cars are better with the merc engines.

cherokee :
would still go for the 4ltr for all reasons above. more suitable for extreme offroad.

hope this helps.
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: J66P on December 31, 2008, 17:07:45
grand cherokee :
if you are not doing mega miles, buy the 4ltr as these engines should be bullitproof [ simple straight 6 ]
the v8 is even better if you are after sound and performance. i was told not to buy the diesels versions
for the year cars you mentioned as they tend to have problems. not for extreme offroad. good for comfort
ride and motorway cruising.

later diesel cars are better with the merc engines.

cherokee :
would still go for the 4ltr for all reasons above. more suitable for extreme offroad.

hope this helps.

not sure I agree with some of the comments, but I do agree with a 4 litre would be my choice :D

The Smiths has a '95 Deisel one (runs on Veggie) with 160,000 miles on it and believe you me he would go anywhere in it and do anything, it is used for both pay and play and laning, we do trips to South Wales, North Yorks, Cumbria etc.. he has never had a problem, it really is horses for courses and just a case of looking after what you get, if you service a VM right you should be ok, same as anything really :-k

The later engines are ok until you need to buy an injector then it will bankrupt you for sure :wink:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 19, 2009, 23:12:13
Yanks not known for small diesels so they used an Italian engine, VM, the M stands for Marine, it's a boat engine with four seperate heads, and surprise surprise it suffers from head probs.

4.0 with LPG is the way to go, hope this helps, Maf
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 20, 2009, 01:11:38
4l with no LPG IMHO...
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 20, 2009, 08:49:32
4l with no LPG IMHO...

For sure they drive nicer on petrol, LPG saves a little money, it's also good to point out to tree huggers that a Jeep has zero emissions and can be run on second parts, far more green than their brand new euro box that has damaged the planet just by being made.

Also heard that a few of these tiny city cars have crap emissions and have clever ECU's that know when they are being tested and shut down power to reduce the readings when really they are worse than most 4x4's.... bless
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: The Smiths on January 20, 2009, 12:45:28
For green credetials (or if really tight) get the 2.5TD and run it on WVO
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 20, 2009, 17:22:50
For green credetials (or if really tight) get the 2.5TD and run it on WVO

We've discussed the diesel engine earlier in the post.... had a friend buy a 2001, low miles FSH, bought it, drove 5 miles and returned it, got his money back.
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 20, 2009, 23:18:43
Green Jeep...the TD boys will flame ya but as an ex TD owner...heheh :lol:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: The Smiths on January 21, 2009, 00:31:24
Green Jeep...the TD boys will flame ya but as an ex TD owner...heheh :lol:

For that I'd need petrol - for in the bottle :evil:.

Have you tried to set fire to veg oil :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 21, 2009, 00:36:29
Green Jeep...the TD boys will flame ya but as an ex TD owner...heheh :lol:

For that I'd need petrol - for in the bottle :evil:.

Have you tried to set fire to veg oil :lol: :lol:


See....red rag to a bull.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: The Smiths on January 21, 2009, 00:39:45
The rag is for in the top of the bottle - colour doesn't matter :lol:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 21, 2009, 08:33:54
Green Jeep...the TD boys will flame ya but as an ex TD owner...heheh :lol:

haha, only saying what happened that's all....
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 22, 2009, 00:01:31
Green Jeep......don't panic...TD owners have issues....

Ya go to your chippy for oil containers instead of pie n chips....
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 22, 2009, 21:47:36
Green Jeep......don't panic...TD owners have issues....

Ya go to your chippy for oil containers instead of pie n chips....

mmm chips.... that's tea sorted thanks for the idea.....
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 22, 2009, 23:56:16
Think Jeep.....whilst you are there

pickled onions or gravy... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: The Smiths on January 23, 2009, 10:39:27
I get people complaining about being hungry all day when following me laning.

Smell of chips wafting out the exhaust :lol:
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: whitewolf on January 23, 2009, 21:42:32
Yanks not known for small diesels so they used an Italian engine, VM, the M stands for Marine, it's a boat engine with four seperate heads, and surprise surprise it suffers from head probs.


FYI...The engine was developed by two Italians,Vancini and Martelli (hence the "VM"), but it has indeed been used in loads of marine applications, testament to how good this engine is! How many ford  engines have failed over the years? but when compared to how many were made its all relative.


 
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 23, 2009, 21:53:30
They put VM's in some Granada's and Rovers

Best avoided unless a known service history...
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 26, 2009, 12:09:34
Think Jeep.....whilst you are there

pickled onions or gravy... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gravy sir...

or curry sauce....mmmm....
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 26, 2009, 12:11:31
Quote
FYI...The engine was developed by two Italians,Vancini and Martelli (hence the "VM"), but it has indeed been used in loads of marine applications, testament to how good this engine is! How many ford  engines have failed over the years? but when compared to how many were made its all relative.

Thanks for that info, interesting.

What do people know about the 3.1 TD in the Grand Cherokee, I have seen that also listed as a VM engine, same style (4 heads etc).

Cheers Maf
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 26, 2009, 23:41:19
Not heard as much bad Karma about the the 3.1's...others might know more..
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: The Smiths on January 26, 2009, 23:48:02
Try 5 heads ;)
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Green Jeep on January 27, 2009, 15:58:01
Try 5 heads ;)

maybe I should have put multiple heads,  :D
Title: Re: buying a cherokee
Post by: Bishops Finger on January 28, 2009, 12:45:36
mm chips and gravy...... :dance:
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