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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Bush Tucker Man on August 01, 2003, 10:42:04
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I'm getting one soon!!
Sorry, that should say Amelia is.
Well she is after both Grandads & myself have assembled, painted & (extensively) tested it.
Have to get SWMBO or a Grandma to make the seat-cushions for it, well you've got to involve them haven't you?
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I am about to build my own Toylander too :-)
And no, I don't have kids!!! 8)
Remco
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My little girls (7 1/2 & 3 1/2) love them (see www.thriveunderpressure.com, follw the Landie page link and look at "oops, sorry!").
If we get one I will build it. After all, orthopaedic surgery is nowt but mechano for adults... :D
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Nice one Tina.
Without wishing to be picky the mini Landies you feature are 'Rebel Replicas' a different company.
Still they look good and if the girls enjoy them go for it.
You got it wrong about 'Gods Own Country' though, as it's on our side of the Pennines.
August 1st = Yorkshire Day
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I won't be drawn into a rematch of the War of the Roses BTM - and i accept they're Rebel's (sorry) as I've found the leaflet.
Are they easier, more difficult or same as Toylanders to build? :?:
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Okay Tina, you've got some nice bits across there as well;
Trough of Bowland, Aston Memorial, Sunderland Point (both Lancaster), Morecambe Bay, the Midland Hotel (Morecambe)
As for the differences, Rebel Replicas are almost twice as dear, even in kit form. They have a greater range though including a 'Centaur' & a Fire Engine.
Toylander only do 2, a Series 1 (just introduced-but looks nice) & a Series 2
Couldn't comment on build comparisons as ours hasn't actually arrived yet.
Have a look on;
www.reallifetoys.co.uk
www.difflock.com/family/rebelreplicas/index.shtml
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thanks Richard, will do, but now I have to go fix my toy... will be spending on the day rust treating and rebuilding. :cry:
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It's here at last!
Arrived in several boxes this morning, just had a look the build manual. It'll be the first real woodwork I've done since school.
Just wondering how to get a really good high gloss finish on MDF or Plywood.
Good job the father-in-law works for a bus company with its own coach-builders & paint booth on site.
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Nice one Richard, we'll see you going round in it at Langley Farm then if your going :lol:
Good luck and have fun, put some pics up when the jobs complete :lol:
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Langley Farm 2004, did you say?
The Toylander Man (company owner) at Billing said that between 40 & 50 man-hours is an average time from pasting the patterns for cutting to completion.
I know that's only a weeks work, but we can't do it straight out.
The realistic completion time is my ??th birthday in October.
Oops sorry, I meant in time to be Amelias Christmas pressie (of course)
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Blimey did'nt realise you were talking that sort of time scale :shock:
Just a bit more than a flat pack from Ikea then :wink:
Shame I was going to ask if I could have ago too :lol:
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Oh yes it's not quite a CKD kit.
Fortunately the only things not included (in the kit we bought) are the MDF/PlyWood, battens, battery & fixings.
Will keep you informed about its progress.
The same guy I mentioned on the 'Not A Land Rover' forum (Nothing like a Land Rover) did consider building one as well, until he saw the price.
Now (alongside the ex-Mines Rescue Atkinson, and my Martian idea) he's toying with the possibilities of buying an old mini allotment/small-holders tractor & re-bodying it.
So it'd have a small diesel engine & 4WD.
Now that would be interesting!
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The first hurdle has been already reached Andy.
Transportation.
ToyLander (external dimensions);
Length; 1702mm (67inch)
Width; 737mm (29inch)
Height; 767mm (30inch) Folded screen
Trailer (internal dimensions)
Length; 1500mm (59.3inch)
Width; 1100mm (43inch)
Height 450mm (17inch)
So there you go, it looks like a case of adapting (& strengthening) the tail-gate to latch open level with the floor, and finally adding the tie-down points.
Or selling/ px'ing the trailer for a 6'x 4' version. Caddy do a nice twin-axle model at that size, not too dear either
I wonder how people get them to places like Billing;
They're too big to get in a caravan
Too heavy to realistically get on & off a roof-rack
Too big to easily go in anything but a Quadtech 130, High Capacity pick-up, or a 101FC
Take another vehicle with it on a trailer?
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At long, long last, after numerous set-backs this project ought to be commencing very shortly.
Now a workspace has been sorted out, complete with heating & power.
Hopefully the wood should be collected Tomorrow, or Sunday morning.
Question;
Do I keep a diary on here of the build, or (eventually) just unveil the finished item?, and take it to Billing? (if we don't go to W&P instead)
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On here ;-)
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Seconded - Keep a Diary on here :wink:
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I argree on here Richard, photo's as well :D
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Okay chaps, I'll go along with that!
(wonder if Tim will give me a special dispensation to post extra photos over & above my official quota?)
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Have no fear good sir....
The mud-club member galleries are perilously close to being completed... this will allow you to create galleries yourself.
Each member will have a limit of around 1000 photos initially, with each photo having space for a caption. You will of course be able to link to individual images in your forum posts too, so if you need to put something specific in the forums... you can.
We are doing final tests on the administrative interfaces at the moment, so they won't be long....
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The main problem being that your resident glitter fitter (read UI graphics bod, or "me") has been far too busy playing with his new toy to finish the graphics....
"wait.. this website is not ready yet...."
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Excellent can't wait..... on both counts.
:D :D :D
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I'll try to be thorough with it.
I'll even start with a picture of the trailer that I borrow to collect the sheet materials :)
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Sorry a false start again last weekend.
I couldn't borrow my mates 10foot trailer, so didn't go for the 8x4 sheet materials (1/2inch Marine Plywood).
I know I could take my 5x4, but the first rule of 'Sods Law' dictates that;
'Whatsoever can go wrong, will do so'
If I had gone for it, it's my luck that it would snapped in half with the wind getting under it & bending it against the ratchet straps.
Hopefully I'll be able to get the trailer tomorrow or Saturday afternoon.
As I told Andy earlier on 'AOL Instant Mesages', we've just put the house up for sale (& sold it 23hours after the sign went up)
So the build might be put back even furtherthan it already has been.
Still, on a positive note I want a house with a double garage (at least 25 foot long) or space to build one.
And a spare (5th/6th) bedroom for my study-den-computer room-archives-record collection-library.
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How detailed are the plans for the Toylander? How well produced? I may well have a go at building one this summer from the plans, but might have to try and turn it into a LWB :)
The Rebel is out 'cos it uses a GRP body so you've not got a lot of choice but to buy that from them and there's no way I can afford it, although I might get a set of their plans to compare.
From the dimensions BTM has given transport won't be a problem, it'll fit inside th 109" without a problem :)
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Matthew they're very well thought out & detailed.
There's a chappie on 'LRUKForums' (I think it's there?) who works for the printers who produce them for 'Real Life Toys'
As we've sold our house & we're going through the process, it's proably going to be on hold until we've moved & settled in now.
Sorry :(
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Sounds ok, I'll be doing it from plans making as much as possible when I do it.
I've got a full size one taking up garage space that needs putting back together first.
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My building plans still on hold, as our original choice of house fell through.
We've found another & are looking at moving mid-May.
BUT, there's no garage there. So we need one building first.
Can any 'mud-members' in Yorkshire (especially around Wakefield/Pontefract/Leeds/Bradford) recommend any particular retailer of double (or even triple) sectional garages, but they've got to be 'extra-height'.
I'd like a brick built garage, but it'd probably cost too much.
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Sorry the 'ToyLander' is still in boxes at a friends house, as we moved on 21st May.
The architect came round tonight with the plans for the new garage/workshop (just as Ben Kentzer was leaving) for our approval.
Only problem is that now they've got to go to the Council for the Planing Comittee & then the statutary time period for objections has to be adhered to.
Paul (architect) told us that we'll have to wait about 10weeks before we can even confirm a start date with the builders!
Soddin' ridiculous!!!! :x
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Hurrah!!!
The suppliers have given us an approximate date of Monday 20th September for the commencement of building the new garage & workshop.
Once there's power & lighting sorted out in there, the wood will be purchased and the kit collected from a friends spare bedroom - bar the bonnet which I got for photographic purposes (picture for size comparison on my 'WebShots')
At least Andy has sorted out the paint for me :D
If we manage to 'Get Cracking' it might be ready for my birthday :lol: (mid-late October)
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Garage & Workshop concrete bases went down today, so we're finally rolling...
Next thing is to get one of our sub-contract Electricians at the Hospital to source me some 240v sockets, a RCD & conduiting for the out-fitting.
The time is drawing nearer :D (at long, long, long, long last!)
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Garage & Workshop fully wired & lit a couple of weeks ago.
Just got to persuade SWMBO not to put all the gardening stuff in my workshop.
I need space for 8x4 sheets of MDF
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will Amelia still fit in it (or want it) when you've finished Richard?
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will Amelia still fit in it (or want it) when you've finished Richard?
I jolly well hope so Tina :lol:
Or is that a pre-emptive bid :?: :lol:
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Hi, Have you started your toylander yet? I'm looking to build one and was wondering what pit falls to look out for. Brought my plans at Billing this year but have only now got time to make a start.
Jerry.
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Aye, i've built one for my daughters.
if i was building another, i would be extremely careful about cutting out the panels etc. I would measure them out on the mdf rather than stick on the plans. So i had a lot of "fitting" to do when putting it together.
Apart from that its all fairly straightforward except it takes awhole lot more hours than advertised. We started mid september 2 years ago and finished it on xmas eve 2 years ago. great fun building it and the kids love it. when funds allow, i'll put the second motor in. tip number 2 - do the cutouts etc for a second motor so that you can fit it at a later stage if not doing it from the beginning.
if i think of anything else i'll post it
regards
dom
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Thanks bush tucker. Ive searched the net and there isnt much info on fitting. I did find a comment of cutting out the patterns and then drawing round them rather than sticking them to the mdf. What do you think to that? How much time did you work on it during the 3 months? Would you recommend making as much as possible myself or buying stuff. I'm going in the direction of buying as at least it should fit and work if I do that. One other thing how did you paint it and what sort of finish did you get. Do you have any photos?
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Thanks bush tucker.
Do you have any photos?
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Believe it or not, it's still in the boxes at a friends house.
I keep meaning to go & get it & start it, it'll stop me sitting on the PC all night instead :lol: :lol:
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lol. Well when your ready. lol
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Sounds a good idea drawing round the plans, but I'd then measure as well to make sure all true etc.
i got all the bits at the same as the plans - i don't have metal working facilities or a welder nor the time to source all the bits individually.
worked on it for about 2-3 hours a night, 3 days a week over the 3 month period.
i painted it by hand with coach paint, the finish is ok for what is at the end of day a kids toy which gets scuffed and bashed etc.
pictures attached:
regards
dom
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Thanks Ibex man. It looks great. Good point about the finish. doesnt sound to bad either 2-3 hours 3 times a week for 3 months. In fact that sounds quicker than I thought. I'm in no hurry as my daughters only just turned 2. :-) I'm not sure what you mean about measuring up? how do you know what the measurements should be?
Jerry
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i wanted to build one for littl'uns xmas pres
think i'm pushing it now
maybe next year
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jerry
i mean about the measurements - to ensure that if you have two pieces that are supposed to be mirror images of each (eg- the side panels) - that they are actually mirror images if you see what i mean.
when we stuck the plans on and then cut the mdf we found that the pieces weren't quite the same shape - may be the plans slightly stretched when sticking.
its well worth spending a lot of time making sure the panels are true and accurate before cutting them.
hth
regards
dom
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I see thanks for the tip. I see what you mean. Maybe I'll use one pannel to draw round for the next one?
Jerry
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are the toylanders made all from wood or do they have a chassis
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are the toylanders made all from wood or do they have a chassis
Wooden through & through.
Think of it more as a monocoque design