Mud-club
Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Fireyred on September 24, 2007, 16:03:41
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Help wanted
Golf ball dent in my drivers side door :cry:
Anyone able to get it out without cracking the paint and meaning a re-spray??? :)
Cheers
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Try "Chips Away" they (and I'm local to Northampton) have done good work on the company cars we had
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Is it costly? £££
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Is it costly? £££
watch this cheap as chips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miNykNl-0NM
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Ask teh club if they will pay - worked for me once with one in the roof of the car!
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Is it costly? £££
watch this cheap as chips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miNykNl-0NM
not sure it will work on a flat panel though... gotta be worth a try.
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the other problem is aluminium stretches when dinted make removal even harder :cry:
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Is it costly? £££
watch this cheap as chips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miNykNl-0NM
Have to say only justed watched this and wow, gonna try that first as I have a can of that air stuff he he.
Thanks.
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Only down side thinking about it I have the impression of the Golf Ball in the paint work, just called Chips Away and been quoted about £140, as it would be a panel beat job and a fill / re-spray.
I have done this before with Big Rich and my Dad after I had a fight with a concrete post and my front wing, in which the post one he he :oops:
You would never know though now, looks fab. So might opt to do it myself as have plenty of paint left over and some filler.
Although gonna write that letter to the golf course and see how that goes too.
Thanks again guys for all your advice.
Fireyred 8)
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This is the letter I wrote to the Golf course:
Dear Sir/ madam
I write to you most upset and disturbed as on the evening of the 31st August 2007 whilst visiting a friend in her new home at 41 Colonial Drive, Collingtree park, I was parked my car in her drive way and was inside the house, “luckilyâ€.
Her son came running into the room and said a Golf Ball had just hit my car with a loud thud and had rolled down the road. I went out side to indeed find a Golf Ball had hit my car, and a hell of a speed judging on the dent it has caused in my drivers side door, which now contains a Golf Ball impression in the paint work.
I thank god I or no one was out side as the force would have knocked someone out or worse killed them. Or if it had been a few inches higher it would have smashed my window.
I have enclosed a picture for you as proof and write for some compensation in order for me to get the dent removed from my car. I have been given a rough quote over the phone of approx £150, although they would need to see it to give me a written quotation.
Look forward to receiving your response.
Yours faithfully,
Lorna steggles
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COLLINGTREE PARK.GOLF CLUB.
Dear Miss Steggles,
I am sorry to hear about the incident involving your car when it was parked at 41 Colonial Drive.
Because it happened on August 31st 2007, I am unable to discover which golfer actually hit the ball. As the golf club carries no insurance for this kind of accident it is the individual responsibility of golfers. I am unable to help.
Should you have the damage repaired and provide me with a copy of your invoice I may be able to make a small contribution.
Yours Sincerely
Les Pullan
Club Secretary
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aha the standard "we've heard it all before now [!Expletive Deleted!] off" letter
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I know what a crock of ****.
Stupid, they must have a record of who was playing that day, although not like they would have been able to tell the exact person who hit the golf ball that way even if I'd have done the letter the same day it happened.:roll:
Any advice?
Should I reply or is it a loss cause and best to just bite my lip and repair it myself :?:
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I know what a crock of ****.
Stupid, they must have a record of who was playing that day, although not like they would have been able to tell the exact person who hit the golf ball that way even if I'd have done the letter the same day it happened.:roll:
Any advice?
Should I reply or is it a loss cause and best to just bite my lip and repair it myself :?:
I would have thought that the Golf club had a legal obligation to take reasonable measures to prevent golfballs from leaving their grounds. And must have public liability insurance. So the excuse you received sounds like a crock of poo to me.
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Tell them that you are going to write to the local council to see if they are liable as this is a matter for the health & saftey department, they would have to have measure's in place to stop this happening otherwise they would not get planning permission, they are just trying it on, let them know you mean business & if they do not pay for the repairs you will have no other alternative but to take legal action.
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TBH mate i think that is disgraceful! I was tempted to write a letter to them telling them that i think they are bang out of order!!!!
* i wont actually write a letter as it may not help you but i will do if you think it will! I play golf and would not wish to play at a club like that!
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youd of thought theyd cough up just to keep away any unwanted bad publicity!
see the council as they are a liability, and a more serious accident waiting to happen.
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Thanks for all your imput will be on the case with letters this weekend and will post the details online.
Cheers
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Collingtree Park Golf Course
Windingbrook Lane
Northampton
NN4 0XN
Dear Les Pullan,
Reference your letter regarding the incident involving my Vehicle that was dented by a Golf Ball whist it was correctly parked on a friend’s driveway in Colonial Drive.
I feel I should have been able to park my car safely and without fear of damage, costing me money for something that was not my fault and was out of my control.
I am most un-happy with your reply that no one seems to be able to take responsibility for the damage to my car. I am most concerned about this and feel as stated in my previous letter that someone could have been seriously hurt, therefore I am left with no alternative but to take this matter further and I will be contacting the local council to see if they are liable as this is a matter for the health and safety department. It is a serious accident waiting to happen.
I feel that it is the responsibility of the golf club to put safety measures in to prevent this happening.
Once again I look forward to receiving your response.
Yours faithfully,
Lorna steggles
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Hi Lorna,
My home backs on to a golf course and any damage caused to my property by their members is usually dealt with PDQ.
Over the years I've had a few pieces of glass broken and they've always sent a glazing company round to sort any problems out.
Once a ball came through my conservatory roof shattering the glass into a million bits, underneath was a kiddies tent thing with loads of plastic balls in it, we'd only got it a couple of days before and they replaced that too.
Don't let them fob you off, go for the throat - its not as if you're billing them a few thousand quid is it?.
Good luck.
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I have had no reply from the golf course, and feel i gave them plenty of time to reply to my letter, so have now wrote this top the council........... :evil:
Dear Sir/ madam
I write to inform you of an incident on the 31st August 2007, in which my car was parked on a friend’s driveway at 41 Colonial Drive, Collingtree Park, Northampton.
When a golf ball came flying over and hit my car on the driver’s side door, leaving an imprint of the golf ball and a fair size dent.
Please see enclosed correspondence between myself and Collingtree Park Golf Course regarding this matter.
In which they are saying that the club carries no insurance to deal with this kind of incident, however, I feel it must be the responsibility of someone rather than myself, as there are no warnings regarding any risks relating to the golf course and parking issues, and I do not see why I should have to pay as quoted approximately £150 to have the dent removed and repaired.
I was clearly parked in the correct way on private property. Not to mention the force the ball must have come over, it could have smashed a window or worse knocked someone out and caused a serious injury.
I now leave it in your hands to find out who is liable for this, and feel it is a matter for health and safety to prevent it happening again and either causing damage or injury.
I look forward to your response regarding this issue.
Kind regards
Lorna Steggles
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All business' must by law carry public liability insurance, if say a paying member of the public crashed a, "Land Rover Experience" vehicle into your leg would you expect them to say, sorry you need to take it up with the individual??
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i would be very tempted to do £150 of off roading on the golf course greens and take the local press along for the story
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yes crazy golf comp safari sounds like a good idea to me!!!
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yes crazy golf comp safari sounds like a good idea to me!!!
I think you've got something there - how about a new 4x4 event? A golf course is set up around a pay and play site (or some handy private land). You have to take shots standing within 6ft of the vehicle, so you now exercise driving skills in getting to wherever the ball has ended up and golfing skills in putting it somewhere easy to get to!
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i would rather use one of them big plastic guns that shoots foam balls out.
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i would rather use one of them big plastic guns that shoots foam balls out.
I would rather set a load of ramblers loose on a pay and play site and try to run em over whilst they try to find a route that you can't follow them up. with some sort of handicap based on sex, age, size and color of socks.
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i would rather use one of them big plastic guns that shoots foam balls out.
I would rather set a load of ramblers loose on a pay and play site and try to run em over whilst they try to find a route that you can't follow them up. with some sort of handicap based on sex, age, size and color of socks.
yes, sort of 50 points for OAP, 100 points for each person, or tripple bonus if you get two at once.
Ramblers often provide good traction if you lay them down in ruts as well. :-$ :-$ :-$
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okay going off the subject a little guys he he :lol: (Funny though) :D
But the idea of going over there with a load of you and some press sound fun. As well as messing the turf up and saying i have no insurance to cover that sorry :lol:
Will keep you posted as to a reply (if i get one) from the council.
Cheers for the light hearted comments, cheered me up a little, as well as knowing you all feel the irritation to my situation.
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Count me in for some golf course related offroading, have they got any water traps to drive through what do you think theyre reaction would be to a discovery emerging onto the fairway via a lake!?
Some sand ladders could be handy too................
Chris
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Count me in for some golf course related offroading, have they got any water traps to drive through what do you think theyre reaction would be to a discovery emerging onto the fairway via a lake!?
Some sand ladders could be handy too................
Chris
At least you have the right name for the course! :wink:
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I've always felt our golf links would make a great off road course. No water traps but some interesting hills and quite possibly bunkers.
I have heard of some golf courses being attacked by the "green" mob - apparently they're not keen on the idea of the landscape being maintained rather than left as a nature reserve. Unlikely allies maybe? It'd be a lot better for wildlife after a bit of churning! :lol:
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:troll:
Have had a letter back from the Council....will post it on later this evening, it will make you all chuckle I am sure and then become outraged as I did.
If your all up for a possible media protest of some kind, as planning some pay back as I am out raged about the whole thing now.
Stubborn as I am, cause why the hell should I pay for the door to be repaired cause they have not got the correct procedures and protection in place.
As to they reply about it being down to the individual person ie the golfer, how the hell would you tell who hit it, the balls don't exactly have there names, addresses and contact numbers on.
:evil:
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Dear Sir/ madam
I write to inform you of an incident on the 31st August 2007, in which my car was parked on a friend’s driveway at 41 Colonial Drive, Collingtree Park, Northampton.
When a golf ball came flying over and hit my car on the driver’s side door, leaving an imprint of the golf ball and a fair size dent.
Please see enclosed correspondence between myself and Collingtree Park Golf Course regarding this matter.
In which they are saying that the club carries no insurance to deal with this kind of incident, however, I feel it must be the responsibility of someone rather than myself, as there are no warnings regarding any risks relating to the golf course and parking issues, and I do not see why I should have to pay as quoted approximately £150 to have the dent removed and repaired.
I was clearly parked in the correct way on private property. Not to mention the force the ball must have come over, it could have smashed a window or worse knocked someone out and caused a serious injury.
I now leave it in your hands to find out who is liable for this, and feel it is a matter for health and safety to prevent it happening again and either causing damage or injury.
I look forward to your response regarding this issue.
Kind regards
Lorna Steggles
This was there reply (The Council) The the above letter:
Dear Miss Steggles
Health and safety at work act 1974
Collingtree Park Golf Course Ltd, Windingbrook Lane, Northampton NN4 0XN
I refer to your recent correspondence regarding the unfortunate incident of a Golf ball from the about course hitting your car whilst parked at a friends house at 41 Colonial Drive.
Collingtree is typical of American style golf courses where houses form the boundary of the course in many places. This type of development does lead to problems you complain of. However there are no previous records of a similar nature in relation to Colonial Drive.
Compensation is a civil matter between you and the person who caused the damage and as such I would suggest you seek private legal advice if you wish to pursue the matter further.
sorry I can not be of further assistance to you in this matter.
Yours sincerely
David Green
Principal Environmental Health Officer
(Commercial services)
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gosh I wonder if they would pull their finger out if a bunch of people joined the golf club and en masse started firing golf balls at club house and carpark, as they say -who knows which ball belonged to which golfer- so no golfer could be held liable for individual damage - it surely would be the clubs fault.
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Take the Director to the small claims court for the cost of repair. You can do this on line. Ususally rather than run the risk they cough up before court. Failing that it'll cost you but a few quid to go through the process.
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I once bought a car which turned out to be on finance. I took advice from several forms and the best of all was the citizan advice beuro (CAB for those who can spell...)
They were excellent, and free!.
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Take the Director to the small claims court for the cost of repair. You can do this on line. Ususally rather than run the risk they cough up before court. Failing that it'll cost you but a few quid to go through the process.
My thoughts exactly. I would be getting some quotes for a propper job (not that chipsaway etc arent good, they work bloody miracles) but I would be getting quotes from the biggest local body shop. You must know the one, the over priced one that does all the insurace jobs near you! :D
Get the quote then write back to the golf course saying having done further research I enclose the quote for a full and propper repair to my vehicle. Failure to pay withing 14 days will leave me no choice but to issue a summons through the county court.
If they wont pay I would start court proceedings (think its about £35 online) and cross my fingers. They are taking the [throw it]! You have to take em on! I would be amazed if they let it go to court. They are bound to just pay up.
Good luck
Mike