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Vehicle & Technical => Military => Topic started by: Bush Tucker Man on January 27, 2006, 16:42:19

Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on January 27, 2006, 16:42:19
I was at Woolley Edge Services (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=430250.970277296&Y=414500.070346677&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=blog&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=&zm=1&scale=25000) on the M1 (between 38 & 39) this afternoon to meet 'Range Rover Blues' (Andy) to 'do a bit of business'

On my arrival, I had some time to kill, so gazed around.
There was a Sagaris on a beaver-tail transporter looking all forlorn

I'd gone in for a Tea whilst waiting.
Andy came in and we had a chat about all sorts of various subjects & their apparant absurdity, modern art, being one :roll:  Ie, Tracy Emins 'Unmade Bed'.
We decided it's all utter rubbish!!!

Scammells, AVRoe Vulcans being others

On returning to the vehicles we were just about to go our separate way when I spotted this lovely little plaything.

For the benefit of non-camflague followers, it's an Alvis Scorpion (http://www.tankmuseum.com/single/scorpion.htm)
That's the one with the 4.2 (straight-6) Jaguar engine that will (reputedly) travel at about 50-65mph  

We think that it's a display/recruitment model going by the steps also strapped on to it.

The supporting Scammell was a nice rig as well, just the job for Green-Laning :D
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: muddysteve on January 27, 2006, 17:15:34
isnt that a DAF?



Steve
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on January 27, 2006, 17:34:37
Quote from: "muddysteve"
isnt that a DAF?

Steve


looks very much like the ubiquitous Leyland T45/Scammell cab to me


 :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
And much to my embarrasment, it's a S26. The S24 was a normal control

S24 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S24.html)
S26 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S26.html) :oops:  :oops:

Oh well, even I make mistakes :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 27, 2006, 18:21:56
dont like to disagree with you but its a cvr"t" sabre i used to drive, command one its a scorpian hull with a fox turret 30mm raden cannon and a 7.62mm chain gun normally fitted with the jag stright 6 4.8 ltr but are also using diesels in them as well now. Brings back lots of memories :D  :D
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 27, 2006, 18:54:52
oh and yes about the top end got one up to 65mph and you should of see the look on car drivers faces when i overtook them on a duel carriway :lol:  :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 27, 2006, 18:58:33
but for all out speed on tarmac you can not beat a cvr"w" fox same engine 4wheel drive and a pre selector gearbox now they flew.
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: isle of man on January 27, 2006, 19:08:03
yes he is right as i spent many years in the tavr (toy army) you can put a high speed diesel in them ( http://www.repaircraft.com/ ) take out the 4.2 petrol j60jag engine also very nice bit of kit and it comes up on you real fast in the field almost steath like......


peter henry
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 27, 2006, 20:14:20
what ta unit were you with i started out in the ta with qoy cheshire yeomanry before going full time
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: isle of man on January 27, 2006, 21:36:47
Liverpool Mather avenue service # 248102** rct now called logistics....i have lived in the isle of man for 18 years now and no barracks here to join.
still have the 4x4 thing though......only now as i break it i have to fix it.
can still do bft in 18 min and awake at 5am hand on socks and all that.
peter henry
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 27, 2006, 22:46:54
well guys that is a cvrt and they are all now fitted with diesal turbo engines and go like the clappers and its sitting on the back of a leyland daf drops vehicle which are good bits of kit
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 27, 2006, 22:52:00
We think that it's a display/recruitment model going by the steps also strapped on to it.

i would also say looking at it has come from base repair where they jave taken it apart and rebuilt so can serv another 20 years  :roll:  :wink:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 09:08:38
yea its to clean to be a serving model mine was never that clean even after the "jet" wash at tidworth :D
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 09:11:31
not that far behind my number 248438** havent done a bft for a while but i still get up at 4am without a problem. Once woke shmbo up at 2 am to tell her its time for her stag :shock:  :shock:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 28, 2006, 09:46:23
Thought they were scimtars?

That was what we used to call them

The leyland is using the roll on/off body system, very useful, no ramps needed, quick turnaround on drop offs

btw 243*****  :wink:

and the newest ones are 252 my lads just got his
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: dew1911 on January 28, 2006, 09:55:24
It's obviously a pretty late Scammell as It's wearing the DAF badge, just painted over.

And I wouldn't mind that front bumper on a Disco :)
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 28, 2006, 09:58:01
You may find you disco would be a little bit nose heavy with that iron work on there, but resembling a bulldozer :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 09:58:38
Quote from: "hobbit"
Thought they were scimtars?

That was what we used to call them


Very simalier but differant turret sabre uses fox turret and has chain gun not gpmg  scimtars have there own turret plus look at turet bins they arelong and thin as turret is lower than scimtars the bins on which are deep could go on lots of little differances. I was with the sqn that trailed them out and the first to notice the chain gun was mounted upsidedown :shock:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: dew1911 on January 28, 2006, 09:59:20
Quote from: "hobbit"
You may find you disco would be a little bit nose heavy with that iron work on there, but resembling a bulldozer :lol:


Little nose heavy perhaps, but it'd give all the Chavs round here something to think about...  :twisted:

EDIT: My dad used to have a Leyland Constructor (here (http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8850/constructor6ld.jpg)) which had that cab on it, only the smaller version (as can be seen by the single headlights and the wings). The bumper wasn't has heavy as it looks actually, as it was completley aluminium, and the one on that Scammall just looks like a heavily modified one.
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 28, 2006, 10:04:40
typical army, mix and match

Wonder if they have fitted a challenger turret on a 432 yet  :?  :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 10:07:13
oupssss i stand corrected it is a scimtar as no chain gun shrould and side turret bins are deep ones it just has sabre bins on the hull :oops:  and i was a armoured recce as well doh :oops:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: isle of man on January 28, 2006, 10:24:25
hobbit. 243..... hey as im 42 years of age you must be very very long in the tooth.

peter henry
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 28, 2006, 10:49:54
getting longer by the days
 :wink:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 11:47:39
i am but a nipper then i am only 38 at the moment. Plus found out they have taken sabre out of action :shock:  But its a newer cvr than scimtar oh well thats another few million wasted as we had a full regiment of them. oh and 432 is still used as the blood wagon for rtr regiments though it cant keep up with c2 :?
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 28, 2006, 12:06:39
Quote from: "gtomo2"
i am but a nipper then i am only 38 at the moment. Plus found out they have taken sabre out of action :shock:  But its a newer cvr than scimtar oh well thats another few million wasted as we had a full regiment of them. oh and 432 is still used as the blood wagon for rtr regiments though it cant keep up with c2 :?
belive it or not the 432 family is still running with most armoured regiments and they are lookin at updating it i remember being on a range firing at an old hull of a 432 and the 7.62 round went stright through the hull and now i dont trust the things give the warrior anyday  :wink:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 12:44:41
hate to worry you saw a rpg go stright though a warrior hit it just below the top of the track but didnt explode lucky [!Expletive Deleted!]. once came face to face with a hind when my troop got a bit lost in germany and we were just in fox :shock:  :shock: dont know which was quicker the fox or my a**e :shock:  :?
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 28, 2006, 12:51:42
Quote from: "gtomo2"
hate to worry you saw a rpg go stright though a warrior hit it just below the top of the track but didnt explode lucky !Expletive Deleted!. once came face to face with a hind when my troop got a bit lost in germany and we were just in fox :shock:  :shock: dont know which was quicker the fox or my a**e :shock:  :?
thats when u get chobham armour mounted  :lol:  i have a few bum twitching moments but hey keeps the ticker goin and something to laugh about about when ur back home lol :twisted: best thing i have seen is a cheiftain avlab (bridge layer) go up in flames when they norweigiens were having a go on it everyone was ok but the guys said u brits are nuts for driving things like that just nodded and lol  8)
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 14:58:31
thet was the only thing i liked when we changed from sabre to chall2 nice thick armour :lol:  :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 28, 2006, 18:50:30
Imagine how they went on the the centurians then, on petrol :shock:

We had a couple of them as aop's, they never even left the park, biggest ornaments going
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 28, 2006, 18:52:49
Quote from: "hobbit"
Imagine how they went on the the centurians then, on petrol :shock:

We had a couple of them as aop's, they never even left the park, biggest ornaments going
my old sargent worked on them in his early days they had a spitfire engine in if im right he said they were a pain in the bum to work on as they stayed hot for ages lol :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: BIG UGLY PERSON on January 28, 2006, 18:52:55
funny my number is 251177** l/cpl!! still serving (TA) REME, i thought i was getting on seeing the numbers the new guys r getting, u have made me feel younger again!! btw i'm only 23!!!! :oops:  :roll:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 28, 2006, 18:59:09
As I said in my posting the other number I mentioned was issued a couple of weeks ago to my lat 2521, that should make you feel old again :wink:  :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 28, 2006, 18:59:43
Quote from: "BIG UGLY PERSON"
funny my number is 251177** l/cpl!! still serving (TA) REME, i thought i was getting on seeing the numbers the new guys r getting, u have made me feel younger again!! btw i'm only 23!!!! :oops:  :roll:
STAB (kiddin) :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 28, 2006, 20:58:54
think we should ask the admin team if they can put another forum on for ex and serving armed forces :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: hobbit on January 29, 2006, 10:43:46
typcal for ex mil's, too much waffle :wink:  :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: dew1911 on January 29, 2006, 11:11:38
When we were talking about the Scammell I was good, but somewhere this conversation has gone way over my head.
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 29, 2006, 13:22:40
Quote from: "dew1911"
When we were talking about the Scammell I was good, but somewhere this conversation has gone way over my head.


Dont worry until we start on types of ammo and the damage they can do
thinking of which have they done the fin round yet for the 30mm i know they were looking at it to replace sabot
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: PUX on January 29, 2006, 17:48:00
Quote from: "hobbit"
typcal for ex mil's, too much waffle :wink:  :lol:
still servin lol and yes i belive they have done finn round!!!! talk anything mill im sure we can go on for ages about it  :lol:  :wink:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: gtomo2 on January 29, 2006, 18:27:16
i know what you mean went you start talking about all the storys and thing you have done. Me and a mate meet up every so often and we just talk and laugh about the old troop and what we got up to :lol:
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: Range Rover Blues on January 29, 2006, 19:18:04
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
it's a S26. The S24 was a normal control

S24 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S24.html)
S26 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S26.html)


About as 'normal' as something that size can ever be :)
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: dew1911 on January 30, 2006, 06:44:04
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
it's a S26. The S24 was a normal control

S24 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S24.html)
S26 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S26.html)


About as 'normal' as something that size can ever be :)


True, surley in Britian we should call the S26 Normal Control and the S24 Front Control or something :D
Title: Alvis & 'Support'
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on January 30, 2006, 09:49:39
Quote from: "dew1911"
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
it's a S26. The S24 was a normal control

S24 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S24.html)
S26 (http://freespace.virgin.net/scammell.man/S26.html)


About as 'normal' as something that size can ever be :)


True, surley in Britian we should call the S26 Normal Control and the S24 Front Control or something :D


Okay then, 'Bonneted Control', is that better?? :wink:
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