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Vehicle & Technical => Range Rover => Topic started by: benbenukuk on August 19, 2008, 20:13:23

Title: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: benbenukuk on August 19, 2008, 20:13:23
Hi, I have a 6 inch lift on my range rover classic, It likes to lean over a lot when off-road, will fitting twin shocks help with this problem? cheers.  Ben
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: davidlandy on August 19, 2008, 20:29:36
may be a lower lift like 2-3"

it must be the height of the springs
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: ben_haynes on August 19, 2008, 20:34:14
like dave says get a lower lift,

how old are the springs?? the springs could have gone saggy!!!

it wont be caused by shocks as they are only there to stop bounce and absorb any shocks (as the name shock absorber suggests)

Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: Reggieroo on August 20, 2008, 12:06:40
I would do a little research on the net but a friend of mine was looking at fitting twin shocks for the same problem he thought he might get with a four inch lift.

I'm sure you don't want to go back down to a 2"-3" lift as suggested after having it nice & high. Be interesting to see a pic of it though as I've never seen a classic with a 6" lift before.
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: way2deep on August 20, 2008, 20:34:26
what's the a lift a combination of ie 6" springs or shorter springs and a body lift ????????????
if it's all springs i would be tempted to put shorter lift springs on and do the rest of the lift on the body mounts,,,that way a lot of the weight ie drive train is kept lower helping the weight centre of gravity to stay lower.
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: clbarclay on August 20, 2008, 20:59:21
Dampers don't control how far your body will roll as such, what they do is control how fast it gets there.
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: benbenukuk on August 20, 2008, 21:14:02
The lift is made up of +2 spring +2 spring spacers and +2 body,  Ben

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Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: GREENI on August 20, 2008, 21:18:17
This soon stopped my 90 leaning......
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: clbarclay on August 20, 2008, 21:33:44
No what you need is a wide sill and a roll cage so the fat chix can lean out up the hill to counter balance the truck.
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: davidlandy on August 20, 2008, 22:24:11
This soon stopped my 90 leaning......

lol :clap:
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: Range Rover Blues on August 24, 2008, 19:58:38
 :lol:


At the end of the day you can either have articulation off-road or a car that handles like a go-cart.  The higher the truck off the floor the worse the compramise is.

DESIGN IS A COMPRAMISE.  The only way to get a RRC to give you the best of both is to fit air suspension.
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: benbenukuk on August 24, 2008, 20:27:35
The only way to get a RRC to give you the best of both is to fit air suspension.

That's why my next 4x4 will be a discovery 3  :D  Ben
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: clbarclay on August 24, 2008, 20:42:52
:lol:


At the end of the day you can either have articulation off-road or a car that handles like a go-cart.  The higher the truck off the floor the worse the compramise is.

DESIGN IS A COMPRAMISE.  The only way to get a RRC to give you the best of both is to fit air suspension.

Air is not the only way, hydarulic is another and potentially has other benefits if you can make it double acting, but like air suspension the compromise is still there, though in the form of added complexity instead.
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: Range Rover Blues on August 25, 2008, 00:39:27
The only way to get a RRC to give you the best of both is to fit air suspension.

That's why my next 4x4 will be a discovery 3  :D  Ben

Not sure the independant suspension of the later LR products is that much better off-road.

 LSE with plus 2" shocks (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/EAS/0/296e3382344d5467f592e8171192e510.JPG/QWdhaW4gdGhpcyBpcyB3ZWxsIHdpdGhpbiB0aGUgY2FwYWJpbHRpZXM=)      LSE in motorway mode (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/LSE/2/9db735bf4c7ce5e40e6f8ba60a70af58.JPG/)       this is what you call an anti roll bar (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/EAS/1/d0ca6352fad0591022e0d89427abbc8f.JPG/QWlyIGJhZyBub3QgZnVsbHkgZXh0ZW5kZWQgYnV0IHdhdGNoIHRoZSBhbnRpIHJvbGwgYmFy).
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: anaxemurderer on August 26, 2008, 23:48:26
Don't know that air suspension offers the best of both either. It might be useful on the road and then liftable offroad (which gives bettter approach/departure and break over) but its then stiff as hell in comparison to a well designed lifted truck.

The shocks on our rangie where so knackered that they actually resisted the truck from leveling off after leaning. You would go around a corner, causing body roll but when back on the straight the chassis and body stayed lent over!  I doubt this is the problem but its amused me.

Sounds like you've gone too high! They look to be 'bigish' tyres aswell

Nick
Title: Re: 6 Inch Lift And Leaning A Lot Off-Road
Post by: Range Rover Blues on September 02, 2008, 02:30:57
Don't know that air suspension offers the best of both either. It might be useful on the road and then liftable offroad (which gives bettter approach/departure and break over) but its then stiff as hell in comparison to a well designed lifted truck.

That's a fair comment (the ride on EAS can be hard), but then you end up with a lifted truck, all the time.  Trust me, EAS goes round corners a damn sight faster :twisted:.  It also has a trick up it's sleeve, extended mode.  If you get cross-axled in high profile for 30 seconds or so it will re-distribute ground pressure to all 4 wheels, restoring grip. Then it will lift the car another inch or so dampers allowing.  Added to traction control it makes the showroom-spec car far more capable with no penalty on the highway.

This  (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/EAS/1/704da2dba4df96a1b5f47be19743befc.JPG/) is a RRC with one wheel on the bump stop and the other wheel with the damper at full travel, with plus 1" dampers.  Not many coilers will do this on the front, expecially with lifted H/D springs.  I know Blue (http://www.mud-club.com/galleries/Range+Rover+Blues/Flexing/1/5489c95a0434b5eec06918fddeba0c32.JPG/) won't.
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