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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: KingWolf on June 05, 2007, 20:44:10
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I know this is going to be a simple question for you in the know but I'll be ringing up the garage tomorrow to see about getting a nice new set of BF Goodrich A/T fitted as my current rubber has nearly had it. I want to know if they all come with the white writing on the side or do you have to ask for something special. Only reason I'm asking is I saw a Disco in my local supermarket car park this afternoon and his tyres were completly black.
I've done all the normal searches on here and on the BF website and have come up blank.
Many thanks
Mark.
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They come as standard with the white lettering on one side, black on the other just let the tyre fitter know what you want - white or black and he'll just put them on which ever way round you ask for. Simple. (the job I mean, not you!)
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just let the tyre fitter know what you want
It's that easy..........
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Mark, Just a word of warning so that you don't get worried, my BFG's came with Blue lettering and needed a bit of elbow grease and a scrubbing brush to get them White. :?
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yup, they can be put on the rim whitchever way round you wish for...
i like the bling with the white writing on the outside :lol:
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Mark, Just a word of warning so that you don't get worried, my BFG's came with Blue lettering and needed a bit of elbow grease and a scrubbing brush to get them White. :?
Or, if you're lazy, drive for a few hundred miles and the blue will rub off on its own...
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just let the tyre fitter know what you want
It's that easy..........
If only all Disco problems were that easy to solve
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white writing to the outside every time 8)
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Many thanks to you all for your answers.
I'll be getting on the phone later today.
best wishes
Mark.
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supermarket jetwash will turn the writing white :wink: , sod elbow grease!
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Your getting the best show them of, white on the outside
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just kerb it a few times, scrapes the blue off
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just kerb it a few times, scrapes the blue off
Best let the wife drive it then...lol
Just made the call, 4 new boots to be fitted on Monday morning..!!
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They don't pay me to advertise for them - black side out*
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
* Kidding! White side every time! :wink:
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Nothing to do with advertising but the white looks tacky especially when worn. Keep the tyres muddy!
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Mmm...just ordered three of these BFG AT's (£102 each), to be fitted on Tuesday, sticking to standard 235/70 though.
Rotated the older 235/70 Maxxis cos the shoulders were wearing thin on the front, but that only works for a few weeks, one of the rears has about 4mm in the 75% area of the tyre that's important, but there has to be visible tread on the rest, and the shoulders are almost shot.
These Maxxis were cheap (£61 each) and have lots of grip on the road, but they wear so quick it's a joke. It's not tyre pressures either, 26 front, 34 rear, checked every week, never more than 1 psi different.
Anyway, having three because the spare is a 205 x 16, didn't realise that this made it illegal, but apparently this is correct so I'm replacing it.
There's some wear left in the front Maxxis, so I'll buy another pair of BFG's in a few weeks.
Expensive last few months, Lambda Sensors, core plugs, exhaust, radiator, viscous coupling, new vapouriser (LPG), insurance renewal, and now tyres (again).
I know someone that says they had a set of these BFG's last 50k, don't know whether there's any truth in that, but I've tried Goodyear 25k, and Maxxis 20k, there's nowt wrong with tracking, and I don't race about on LPG.
Also, 6k tyre rotation, helps even out the wear over a set of boots, but what does everyone think?
As I release the moths from my wallet, I'm wondering about these things.
:?
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i heard 40-50K too....
Rob
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Your getting the best show them of, white on the outside
right on Dave 8)
white outside is "phat".
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Guy at work has 38.5K on a set of BFG AT and theres enough tread left to hide in......................
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Yeah, mine have 40K and they're not even half worn. That includes desert driving which pretty much strips off the rubber while you watch. They'll be good for considerably more than 60K.
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Will be having mine fitted for £95 each, which includes the £1.50 disposal cost of the old tyre...!!
Just need to go play in the mud now...lol
Mark
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my mate has a set which must have done about 50K. They will last ages and are very very good off road.
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Just about to replace two of my BFG ATs and they have just past 75k so well worth the money.
I'm about to go over to BFG MTs so hoppe they last as long!!!
Phil.
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M/ts dont last as long but they dont last badly. They are also well mannered on the road.
You going to Eastnor?
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I spotted you run 26psi up front and 34 back?
Do you find that a little soft? I've run at 32 on front and 38-40 on rears depending on load for about 2 years now with no adverse affects.
In fact, fuel consumption is good, steering is relatively light and positive and tyre wear is even all over.
It's also got plenty of gip off road. (BFG AT 245/70/16)
Stu.
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For a 1996 V8 3.9 Discovery, Land Rover state 28 front 38 rear for 205 x 16, and 26 front 34 rear for 235/70 x 16.
Over-inflated tyres will be lighter on the steering, and fuel consumption will be lower, this is because you're driving on the centre of the tyre. Having stated that, I do believe that 26 front and 34 rear is under-pressure.
Shoulder wear from steering is a problem with front tyres on a Discovery 300 Series V8 or TDi (particularly near side), but I feel that the problem is due to Land Rover supplied recommended pressures being too low.
I realise the Discovery is a heavy vehicle, but I just don't race about anywhere, have driven all sorts of vehicles from emergency fast response cars to Heavy Goods, and I've only ever seen this type of wear from excessive high speed cornering.
If anyone has got 50k out of a pair of BFG AT's on the front wheels of a 300 Series V8, using standard 235/70 tyres, I'd be very interested to find out what pressures you've been using.
32psi front may very well be the optimum, but there's enough of us, can we gather some evidence?
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Wireless, I would be very careful running 2 BFG ATs rather than 4. I did that once in my 95 3000tdi Disco and it handled like a bag of <edit> (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=42831) (more so than normal I mean!) BFG state that you should only ever fit 4 at once for this reason...
Great tyre, don't get me wrong. As many have already said, they are the best.
Best to be safe though. Funnily enough, I am about the buy a new set of boots too. Can't choose between BFG AT and General Grabber AT2 though. Or indeed whether to sneek up a size from 235/70/16 to 245/75/16 for a spot more clearence...
Si
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The Maxxis will only be on the front for a few weeks at most, but I know what you're saying, I'll be careful, I wouldn't normally mix tyre types between axles, but it's not illegal, all are radial.
BTW, what tyre sizes and pressures do you run front and back?
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Hi
Im running AT2's, they worked out a little cheaper than the bfg's
road manners are great, and I have found them good off road as well. If I had to replace them I would get the same again.
Im running on Landrovers recomended pressures, but personaly think the rears are to soft.
Will experiment a lttle in time !
Andy
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I'm running BFG Land terrains, (cos I'm a cheap-skate), on WOLF rims, (Black naturally as they are cooler like that), at 32 Psi front and 34 Psi rear, with a 1.5" lift and ARBs still on.
theres a picture here... (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/Simmobri/Forum+stuff/front.jpg)
Ive had about 750 miles out of a set of 5 so far and the moulding bobbles have only just gone on the tread area - in fact you can still see the bases of them - well mannered on and off road only annoying thing is a slight vibration at around 35-40 Mph that appeared on the drive away from having them fitted and wasn't there on the drive there.......
I've gone up a size to 245/75/R16 and the taller side walls have altered the gearing slightly, enough to make a noticeable difference up steep hills, other than that I'm well happy....
Oh and it's white lettering out for me.
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Land Terrains? That's a funny name for a tyre. What the hell else do they expect you to use them on?
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Fair point that.
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Hi
my bfg ats must be up to about 50k and they are still looking very good - i put them on about a year before i moved to england, and have been here for 2 1/2 years, will not use anything else - they are a great tyre.
i have a 99 V8 and run the tyres at 40 front and rear
regards
ela
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I run 30psi front and 34psi on the rear... 235/70/16
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There seems to be a lot of you running different pressures with these tyres. Do you find the increase gives a better performance from the tyre? Also if running increased pressures have any of you noticed any increased or uneven wear?
Mark.
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ive got 245/70R16 (i moved up from 235/70 for that bit extra grip - and it is noticeable) and run them about 28psi on the front and 32 on the back. thats on a 1986 rangie.
i used to run them a bit higher but mine suffers from steering shake when you hit potholes and i found lowering the pressures in the front helps eliminate this.
this set was fitted new (first set of new tyres ive ever had) so it will be interesting to see how they last.
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Well I've had two BFG AT fitted to the rear, it seems they had three on the computer and only two on the racks.
Handling is interesting, I'm running 28 front (Maxxis) and 38 rear currently.
At 34 rear they looked a bit under-inflated, and even at 38 rear they look under-inflated, the car handles as if the rears are slightly under-inflated.
I'm thinking that I'll prolly try 40 at the rear.
Most seem to report using 32 front, so I may try that, especially if they get 50-60k from a set.
Only major problem I now have is the front wheels now look [!Expletive Deleted!], so I'll be back to get the other three changed soon as.
Best part about the day was the price, £173.97 for the two. :D
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They don't pay me to advertise for them - black side out*
Cheers
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Eeyore
* Kidding! White side every time! :wink:
I think you were right first time Eeyore - if BFG want to send me a set I'll put stickers on the car too - else its black side out for me!
H
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Well I had my 4 tyres fitted on Monday and set the pressure to standard. 26 front 34 rear and while driving it felt like the front was a little under inflated. I've increased the front to 30psi but to me it still looks a little soft. Is this how they are designed to look or am I getting paranoid...!!!
Mark.
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Mine look like they could do with a few more PSi, but they handle fine so I'm leaving them as is for now.............. Might well be how they are?..
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they do look to bulge...ive noticed that on all the bfg tyres
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Well I've taken the plunge and ordered 5 new tyres. I had to pass on the BFGs as there seems to be a little constraint with supply at the moment. Everyone's got them on back order with stock due in early July. Bit too close for comfort as I leave for Iceland on the 9th. I have gone for Goodyear Wrangler ATR in standard size of 235/70/16. I shall start with LR pressures and see how they go. It will be interesting to see how they compare to BFG over time...
Si
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my bfg ats must be up to about 50k and they are still looking very good
The BFG A/T's on my 110 are the original set (as far as I know) at circa 60,000miles
As a comparison;
The Goodyear GT+4(?) on my Discovery when I bought it were wearing rapidly at 38,000
The Avon Rangemasters on the 110Tdi Hard-Top were only swapped at about 55,000 miles!!! (& still probably had about 4mm left)
Digressing to another manufacturer
Didn't I read in the current issue of 'LRM that someone claims to have got 120,000miles out of a set of General Grabber M/T's!!!
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I know this is going to be a simple question for you in the know but I'll be ringing up the garage tomorrow to see about getting a nice new set of BF Goodrich A/T fitted as my current rubber has nearly had it. I want to know if they all come with the white writing on the side or do you have to ask for something special. Only reason I'm asking is I saw a Disco in my local supermarket car park this afternoon and his tyres were completly black.
I've done all the normal searches on here and on the BF website and have come up blank.
Many thanks
Mark.
Getting back to where we started - Black every time!
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I forgot to mention, I've gone the other way, white outside, BUT it makes the Maxxis on the front look very silly now.
:cry:
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seem to be in the minority, but run my MFG MTs on black modulars, with the white lettering on the INSIDE!
Running a set of 265/75x16 MTs on my Disco1.
As for tyre pressures and in very muddy off road conditions, they're well happy at 20psi without the use of bead lockers.
Just as a matter of interest, anyone running this size of tyre on a Disco - what pressures are you using on the road?