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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: beatmasterdave on March 28, 2007, 20:27:24
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sorry, i know theres a sticky all about em but doesnt say about 33inch tyres. 8)
i found some 33/12.50 BFG muds, and they look the bees knees, i think thats the size i'd go for. i like the wider tyres even though width isnt everything and can be a draw back. i found 305/70R16 which is aparently 33.12.50R16. what sort of mods would need to be done to fit on a 300tdi? lift and cuts i gues, but how much? would the gearing be ok?
oooh, and how about 33/13.50s????? :D :D
also, does anyone know if these landy alloys are any good and if these tyres would fit? how wide do the rims have to be?or is it best for 15 inch rims?
cheers
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:shock:
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I fitted 33x12.50's , just used +2 lift and cut out arches, no probs at all, used every day...... :D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/NGXVB-YBFXW-ico.JPG)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/new90001(Medium).jpg)
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NY4X4 your disco looks the nuts mate!!!!!
dan
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I fitted 33x12.50's , just used +2 lift and cut out arches, no probs at all, used every day...... :D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/NGXVB-YBFXW-ico.JPG)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/new90001(Medium).jpg)
What on earth has that done to your gearing?!
Thinking of going to 235/85's but caused a big debate with my mates about how to manage the gearing issues... :roll:
Can't imagine what they'd say to yours! :shock:
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To be honest, I don't find the gearing a problem at all, and as you can see it can still pull a decent size trailer. I think if the Disco is in good health it copes with it... I have no problems using 5th gear, although, I must admit I sometimes need to change to fourth when towing.. :lol:
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Hmmmm... good food for thought!
Thanks
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It's the same old thing, every Disco is different.
When I fitted 33x12.5R15's I had to change the transfer box for a TD5 Defender one as, although it would pull with the Disco box, it failed to go up hills and I was using one gear less at slower speeds (3rd at 30mph instead of 4th) as the engine laboured too much. And, before anyone asks, I got an Allard's intercooler and tweeked injector pump! :wink:
I went with a +3" lift to clear the inner arches on full articulation and also fitted wheel spacers so I still had the normal turning circle. You can get special offset wheels to do the same thing but you need something to keep the turning circle.
Not to mention the caster corrected radius arms, double cardan from propshaft, cranked training arms, propshaft spacers lowered bumpstops and Rangie Spares arch kit. :wink:
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I've just fitted 285.75 16's on Bronco's 7x16 zero offset modulars, and as yet i haven't tried to see what it's like when articulating, i have 2"lift, arches cut out etc..... i had to lose some lock, which i wasn't best pleased about....
Wheels is the biggest dilema, unless you're happy to run spacers.... i wasn't! do not believe Bronco's when they tell you they are getting 8x16 modulars with -5mm offset.... i'd been waiting since october when i gave up and prdered the 7's 2 weeks ago.......!!
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Drift.... I saw these (http://www.edisposals.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Disposals-Public-Site/en_US/-/GBP/ViewProductDetail-Start;pgid=MieqQ4wkQg8000ArvQ_8K1sp0000CX4adVkK?ProductUUID=b3HAqBIPRGYAAAEQujpz1HxV&CatalogCategoryID=0lbAqBELg4cAAAD_PKVpc4d5&JumpTo=OfferList) and thought of you! :lol:
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I put 33x12.50x15 BFG muds on mine .. with:
D44 OME lift 2.5", chopped arches and xtra width flares, Offset mods + 30mm wheel spacers, Equippe rear cranked arms.
No prob's everyday drive, until I crashed it last week :oops:
Do find the gearing annoying on long drives, the 50mph - 85mph is a long haul. No prob's hitting 50 though :D
I did have to adjust the steering stop a bit as well on one side as i run a standard panhard which shifts my axle out a little.
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right NY4x4, thats spot on! that looks fat, but not over the top! excelent response guys, i think im guna work towards that size. only consern is the gearing, but i gues im guna have to wait and see :lol: nice one
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Got 33's on mine & yes it does affect the gearing a bit but I live with it, when I can get around to it I will change the transfer box :roll:
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I have 285/75/16's on mine with a 2" lift. and rangie spares arches.
they are about 34" tall and about 11" wide. Articulates nicely, but gearing is definately too high. If you change the transfer box your high ratio gearing will be reduced low stays the same which is not too much of problem unless you go in for rock crawling etc. on 33's wont be as bad but its certainly drivable. suck it and see. you can get the wheels on wsihout cutting the arches on a 2" lift but they will rub on uneven ground. Depending on what ofset wheels you get you will need spacers (get decent ones).
One thing i can absolutly guarentee whatever siae tyres you get in a few lonths they wont be big enough! My advice go as big as you dare!!!
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I would recommend Straightforward supplies for wheels, plenty of offset = plenty of steering lock :wink:
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cheers! glad to hear it isnt going to be as bad as i thought. i asked about 35inch tyres and that requires more work. im definatly getting a 2 inch lift. if my truck's gearing dosnt get along with the tyres, should i go after the defender 300tdi transfer box? and will that be a straight swap without modifying brackets and stuff?
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You want a 1.4:1 ratio transfer box or you can keep the 1.2:1 transfer box and change both axle diffs for 4.1:1, this has the added advantage of altering both high & low ratio where as changing the transfer box only alters the high range (low range is the same on all LT230's).
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I think about 33's on mine however it is a 5 door.
Is it realy possible?
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Yes it's possible, it just mean a little more work when cutting the arches at the rear as you have to cut into the rear doors.
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I am doing this to mine. I have 10x15 rims with massive offset (they stick out 4" !!!!!Good though as they dont rub on radius arms and I have factory lock or better. Getting the ROCCIA arches as tehy are wider and made well .
33"s will affect gearing so DO bear this in mind . You are welcome to pop down and we could chuck mine on yours at least for you to drive for 10 mins. I have a section of dual carriageway near so you could try 5th ???
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You could always do a body lift to save cutting into the bodywork :idea:
Bullfrog,
Can you p[lease tell me where you got the rims from as I am thinking about getting some with a better offset mine are 10x15 8 spokes but really would like them to stick out further & get a better lock :wink:
Thanks John.
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I am doing this to mine. I have 10x15 rims with massive offset (they stick out 4" !!!!!Good though as they dont rub on radius arms and I have factory lock or better. Getting the ROCCIA arches as tehy are wider and made well .
33"s will affect gearing so DO bear this in mind . You are welcome to pop down and we could chuck mine on yours at least for you to drive for 10 mins. I have a section of dual carriageway near so you could try 5th ???
hello mate we have 10x15 rim on our rangie, there awesome and also just ordered some roccia flares should be here on early next week :D
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u192/littledan_19/New%20Bobtail/Picture052.jpg)
this is why u need big arches!
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u192/littledan_19/New%20Bobtail/Picture019.jpg)
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looking top notch!!! 8)
my truck needs a bit of work at the mo. hopefully get all this done fairly soonish. cant wait.
:shock: :shock: LITTLE DAN! what rims are those and where could i grab em from?!?!??!?!?!? :D
that looks nuts! exactly what im after. :D :D
cheers
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Dear NY4x4 What size wheel have you got on to support those tyres ??
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Dear NY4x4 What size wheel have you got on to support those tyres ??
The ones at the bottom of this http://www.straightforwardsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Pit_Bull_Tires.html page. - 10 x 15's
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i dont know mate we got them second hand from a mate so i dont know where he got them from sorry!
dan
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wow! yep well i'll grab me those rims there from straight forward. nice one! :D :D :D :D :D 8)
oh do you know how much they stick out without arches? im planing to get arches, but dont want to get massive ones. going to get the average plastic ones, and if i have to, make up a rubber flap to come out some more.
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I'm guessing you need some sort of adapter to get a 33" spare on the back. Who sells them?
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someone on here has one from D44, i gues its going to be a bit pricey. :( . if im lucky, im going to save for a full external rollcage. i've seen one with a bar section infront of the the rear door, and the tyre bracket was on that. looked really smart. ... but i gues thats going to have to wait :( hehe 8)
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The ones at the bottom of this http://www.straightforwardsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Pit_Bull_Tires.html page. - 10 x 15's
NY4x4 are you running you 33x12.50 BFG's on these wheels without spacers ?
Is the type you have the standard set of 15x10's or are there options ?
Cheers
TPK
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ours stick out about 3/4 inches, we just brough some roccia arches from a guy on here called mike (chuggaman) look him up and PM him he dose nice big wide arches which should just cover the wheels :D plus the look the sex too
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I have flares already fitted .. running black 15x8 black mods .. But i need to run with 30mm spacers to keep my steering lock any good ..
You have trouble with turning circle and steeering lock not using spacers ?
Are you running 12.50's ?
Thanks
TPK
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we aint runnin spacers at all, and our tyres dont rub on full lock which is good,
but then before we had the rangie the guy who built it had slighly smaller tyres on and they didnt rub either so he obv has already moved teh bolts for the steerin :)
dan
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has anyone been pulled over because of the wheels sticking out a bit? whats the penalties? and how much can you get away with?
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Could be 3 points and upto £1000 fine. They even have powers to sieze vehicle !!!
You can get basic roccia ones for about £150. I am getting the new style ones as I like the look of them .
My wheels were from paddocks £228 delivered then I added valve bars before a repaint and tyres.
They are the ones on the bullfrog 90 on my website. You can see the offset clearly and how much arch I had to add to cover them (100mm)
I would have prefered modulars but they did not have them in stock at the time. I have emaild LA supertrucks re 10x16 but tehy are rather dear. They can get upto 14x16 for super swamper tyres !! Mind you they are £140 a rim !! :shock:
Also if you move the original spare wheel carrier up one set of holes and make a cut out for the wiper it works with upto 35" tyre :idea:
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Snake
got a spare carrier from devon 4x4 about 2 years ago for £60, a few of the lads around here have cut the studs off and rewelded them higher up.
Gav
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The ones at the bottom of this http://www.straightforwardsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Pit_Bull_Tires.html page. - 10 x 15's
NY4x4 are you running you 33x12.50 BFG's on these wheels without spacers ?
Is the type you have the standard set of 15x10's or are there options ?
Cheers
TPK
That's right, just the standard 10 x 15 rims - no spacers, and I would say the steering lock is as good as factory fitted :D
also...... spare 33 x 12.50 BFG fits on back door with no mods ( although it does JUST touch the bumper. :shock:)
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The ones at the bottom of this http://www.straightforwardsupplies.co.uk/acatalog/Pit_Bull_Tires.html page. - 10 x 15's
NY4x4 are you running you 33x12.50 BFG's on these wheels without spacers ?
Is the type you have the standard set of 15x10's or are there options ?
Cheers
TPK
That's right, just the standard 10 x 15 rims - no spacers, and I would say the steering lock is as good as factory fitted :D
also...... spare 33 x 12.50 BFG fits on back door with no mods ( although it does JUST touch the bumper. :shock:)
NY4X4 best thing to do is turn the spear wheel carrier upside down it gives u 2" more clearance!!!
and yeah u can get pulled over with the wheels sticking out,
our roccia flares are on there way cant wiat to fit them!
dan
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oh NY4X4, what flares have you got? trying to decide what size to go for
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oh NY4X4, what flares have you got? trying to decide what size to go for
I have the ones from Devon 4x4, these were the only ones available at the time!
I think this wheel/tyre/Arch/Lift combination look about right, but that is only my opinion... :D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/DSCF9292.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/pt3.jpg)
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I think this wheel/tyre/Arch/Lift combination look about right, but that is only my opinion... :D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/DSCF9292.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-10/870278/pt3.jpg)
yeah definatly! looks the nuts! im definatly working towards it. :D :D :wink:
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sorry, bringing this up again
so will 33s fit on a disco with a 2 inch suspension lift and cut arches?
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in my expierience , YES!
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fewww. ok well thats cleared it up. looks like it will have to be done 8)
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Heres my disco on 33/12.50/15 Kumho KL71 mud terrains
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/3c36b46f1ebd2aa6116343483218a29b.JPG)
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/d49151222feff682b469c57a0829c5bf.JPG)
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/2addd533b63dccb9e5b850a4d084fe26.jpg)
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looks great CWK! gota knockle down now and get this sorted :D :D 8)
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looks great CWK! gota knockle down now and get this sorted :D :D 8)
Thanks!
I have now added the wheel spacers and the tyres are now inline with the outer edge of the arches AND I have some steering lock back!
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/a5b508d8789a6882094da3099640d34b.jpg)(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/b94693bf15f978949b774ec7daca0da7.jpg)
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yay! bring this up again! :D :D :D
any knowlege on33x13.50R15 ?
looking at the mickey thompson range. would this fit ok? would it rub the radius arms? would it stick out a lot?
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i have 285/75 x 16 cooper discoverers on mine with a 2 1/2 " lift at front and with spacers 4 1/2" at the back, on 16 x 8 modulars, also fitted roocia arches, what do you think
pegleg66
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What wheel arches are you all using? I'm looking for some for my RRC 8)
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Roccia arches, think i ended up getting them from fleabay.
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chuggaman on here has something to do with them
cheers for the pic! :D
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Can 33's be fitted to a disco 1 if i have the arches cut out but without getting it lifted?
Don't want to use spacers either
Also which rims are best for 33x12.5.....8" or 19" wide
Cheers
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right! thats me decided!
i loved the tread on the recip aggressive tyre but they didnt make them in 33inch. and they are also a remould, which i want to steer away from.
looking at micky thompsons, they are great, and also a little bit wider at 13.50, but a bit expensive. just found exactly what im after!!!! :D :D :D
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/beatmasterdave/MAXMUD_d.jpg)
33X13.50x15!!!! very happy!
also, similar lines as what Ian101 is asking...
will these fit on 15X8 rims, or will it be better on 15X10? i think im going to go for the wider ones, any advantages?
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If they're 13.5 inches wide then don't even think about 15X8s they're way to thin.
Also check the offset that you'll need to maintain a reasonable turning circle.
Wide is good for floatation if you're on boggy ground that's deep, but some ground requires a tyre that will bite through the mud on top to get to the harder ground underneath. A wide tyre won't do this because of it's flotation.
Just make sure you get the right tyre for the type of ground you're going to be on most of the time. :wink:
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its mainly on road now. going for wider tyres isnt a smart move really, but im going for the look really. fuel consumption will go up, and wear and tear on a lot of kit. when offroad i dont do the challenging things anyway. i'll give these a go and see what happens. :D :D :D :D
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dave, sounds to me like your gonna waiste a lot of money for stuff that your not gonna need, dont let your heart rule your head, a 13.5 wide tyre is way over the top for a disco, unless your plannig a route round iceland on the glasiers
just my thoughts, :?
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does anyone have any experience with maxxis tyres? any good? they are a pretty big name, but havnt heard much about. i know their mountain bike and quad bike tyres are really good.
also, would the standard 300tdi high range lug these 33X13.50's about ok? would the Tbox stand up to it for a little while? and whats the best defender box to plop in there? cheers :D