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Vehicle & Technical => Military => Topic started by: stratie on August 22, 2008, 09:47:19

Title: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on August 22, 2008, 09:47:19
My lightweight came with alot of paper from the army, it says on one sheet of paper work, that it had some body work done, and the whole truck was given a coat of matt black paint.
Any one know why the army would paint it all matt black?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on August 22, 2008, 10:16:01
Found some more paper work, and it was once painted up in camo, then painted up in sand.
I can understand camo and sand, but why matt black?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Discopoo on August 22, 2008, 11:53:40
Might be radar reflective paint ? Stealth lightweight ?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on August 22, 2008, 12:02:39
 :lol:
Talking of stealth, we had two B-2 Spirit Stealth Bombers buzzing about over our house last sunday.
$2 billion dollers worth of matt black flat thing's flying around while i sat in the garden with a can of stella  :D

A B-52 and two B-1's just went over my house going into land, they are that low i could get me little air gun out and bag me a bomber.
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: suggs on August 22, 2008, 14:16:05
ask Pux, he'll probley know..
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Pete on August 22, 2008, 20:59:59
 Mat Black.
 Base coat for cammo.
 Pete
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Range Rover Blues on August 22, 2008, 23:15:45
Maybe so the DPM could be sloshed over it, either olive or sand, whichever was most appropriate.
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on August 23, 2008, 00:23:46
That makes sense, cheers guy's  :jealous:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: hobbit on August 24, 2008, 18:24:25
Dont forget not all vehicles were used tactical, this may have been used on camp as a duty vehicle

Thats why you still find deep bronze green in use too
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: tack43 on September 10, 2008, 15:51:25
Are you sure the whole vehicle was painted black? Sometimes a "green" vehicle would go into ABRO to get the "black" bits sprayed on. Vehicles when new were supplied in green only and had the black put on in service. Sometimes this could take several years (or never) to get done!
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 12, 2008, 09:19:44
Are you sure the whole vehicle was painted black? Sometimes a "green" vehicle would go into ABRO to get the "black" bits sprayed on. Vehicles when new were supplied in green only and had the black put on in service. Sometimes this could take several years (or never) to get done!
Hope this helps.
Yep, it was 100% black all over.
It look's like this now......dont laugh, it was my first ever camo paint job  :lol: 
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Disco Matt on September 12, 2008, 10:59:43
Looks good to me - freehand with a brush or did you mask and spray it?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 12, 2008, 13:47:59
Big brush and two pots of paint.
Bish bosh bish bosh and on it went  :D
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Disco Matt on September 12, 2008, 15:17:06
Seems to work just as well on a full size vehicle as it did when I last built a plastic kit!  :lol:

I suspect that actually trying to mask and spray camo paint would look worse than a careful brush job, getting a smooth curve is a lot easier freehand. Plus as others have said it's how the Army did it.
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 14, 2008, 08:27:33
I put alot of work into it, i reckon i must of spent all of 20 minutes painting the camo job  :lol:
I was going to do it in white,black,grey camo. But i didn't know where to start?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Onan The Barbarian on September 14, 2008, 08:35:45
Must've done a good job, Mate... I can't see a thing! :lol:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 14, 2008, 15:17:21
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: sMUDge on September 14, 2008, 15:43:08
When we paint a vehicle (not that we do anymore) we start of with green, then add the black.  If a duty vehicle were to be one colour, it would normally be matt green  :huh:

Not sure how you ended up with a total "black" one  :-k

A brush is always best, but make sure the paint has started to solidify in the can and the brush only has 37 bristles (or less) for an authentic finish  ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 14, 2008, 22:29:23
make sure the paint has started to solidify in the can and the brush only has 37 bristles (or less) for an authentic finish  ;)  :lol:
Now you tell me  :lol:
What job do you do smudge?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: sMUDge on September 15, 2008, 18:37:52
Army mate, driver by trade, though I rarely drive nowadays unless on "Tour"  :doh:

I've painted a few Land Rovers in my time though  ;)   :lol:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 19, 2008, 08:43:30
When we paint a vehicle (not that we do anymore)
Why dont you paint them anymore?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: pux on September 19, 2008, 10:49:38
Most get painted now when they come back from op's so they get sent off to a company called ABRO or some camps have spray bay's that do it for you. There is also a new style paint which let's you paint over everything then you just peel off the stuff you don't want covered and then when you want it off all together just jet wash it :shock:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: sMUDge on September 19, 2008, 14:18:28
What pux said  :lol:

Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 19, 2008, 20:19:40
I want some of that peel off paint stuff :D
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: sMUDge on September 19, 2008, 20:39:32
I wouldn't get too excited, it's not that good & VERY expensive  :roll:

Personally a Pte & Brush are better & more cost effective  :clap:

Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: pux on September 19, 2008, 21:25:29
As smudge said it wiil peel of if you drive over 5mph :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: Mareng on September 23, 2008, 21:40:11
Perhaps the Pte that was given a brush to paint it couldn't be bothered with the trek to the stores to get the green paint and found a pot of black in the workshop.....






Never did anything of the sort boss...honest... =; :^o
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on September 23, 2008, 21:54:20
 :lol: :lol: you never know.
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: tack43 on September 30, 2008, 21:56:13
Perhaps the Pte that was given a brush to paint it couldn't be bothered with the trek to the stores to get the green paint and found a pot of black in the workshop.....






Never did anything of the sort boss...honest... =; :^o

Possable but that wouldn't explain the paperwork (AB562) only official stuff goes in there. And the Pte (or Dvr in those days) would have had a "beasting" and repainted properly it in his own time!
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on October 01, 2008, 12:25:01
Been going thru the paperwork again, and the truck spent some time in NI and thats where it got it's coat of black paint.
 
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: hobbit on October 01, 2008, 12:39:30
Been going thru the paperwork again, and the truck spent some time in NI and thats where it got it's coat of black paint.
 

Got any round patches in it?  :)
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on October 01, 2008, 14:17:15
 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: tack43 on October 01, 2008, 16:56:45
Maybe it was a flame retardent paint although later snatch's and APV's were all green. Did it also have a VKP (vehicle protection kit)? If not itmay have been a camp runaround (or was it at a TA Unit?)
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on October 02, 2008, 10:54:01
Did it also have a VKP (vehicle protection kit)? If not itmay have been a camp runaround (or was it at a TA Unit?)
Dont know mate? It's got  some pot rivits (or what ever you call them?) on the drivers door and sill.
It allso has the very rare seatbelt rack jobbie (see pic) and i only know of one other fella who has that fitted in his truck. His truck was allso in NI for a while. It had the same pot rivits in the drivers door and sill.
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on October 11, 2008, 16:19:56
I dont know if this is true of not, but this fella who gets in my local came over and asked about the LWT (i was outside the pub on my phone lent against the truck) Any way, we get chatiing, and it turns out he was in the army and used to run around in LWT's ect.
So i asked him if he new any thing about paint jobs? And he said yeah, what do you want to know?

So i tell him that this truck was once painted all black, and then asked him if he knew any other landies in the army that were painted all black.

He said, and i quote....The Landrovers that were painted black were for the SAS. He then asked if i had put the hood on? I said no, why? He then went on to tell me that the 88" trucks that the SAS used all had truck cabs on them.

Well frick a duck. When i picked up the truck, it allso came with a spare truck cab.
The plot thickens.

Oh and he allso said that the black paint was some sort of infra red reflective paint.
What ever thats ?

Now he could of been on a megga wind up. I dont know?
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: pux on October 12, 2008, 12:46:14
startie all military paint is IRR (infra red reflective) I have never heard that one about SAS lwt's but then they are a law unto there selfs so would not surprise me at all. I personally think somewhere along its life a civvi as painted it all black ;) either way mate you have a nice looking truck ;)
Title: Re: Another lightweight question....Colour.
Post by: stratie on October 12, 2008, 18:29:46
It says inside the cab......Marge McNab waz ere.

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