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Vehicle & Technical => Jeep => Topic started by: marsie on July 22, 2007, 20:10:34

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 22, 2007, 20:10:34

I am thinking of replacing my old 4.2 landcruiser with a grand cherokee.The problem is conflicting specs for tow capacities so i would appreciate if any of you guys could shed some light on it for me.I will need it to tow a 2axle trailer with a 2.2ton landrover challenge car(total about 3.1tons)but some websites say the gc has a tow limit of 2.8tons whereas others say 3.5tons :?  

oh,and i am looking at around 1999-2001ish and either 3.1d or 4.0/4.7with lpg if it makes any difference  :wink:
Ta very much
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: offroading.net on July 22, 2007, 22:46:29

i will check the book but IIRC it is sub 3tonnes

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: tim_aka_tim on July 23, 2007, 16:37:14

My 3.1TD was 3.5tons. Dunno about the petrol ones.
BTW, towing a Lardy with a Jeep is the ultimate oxymoron!

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 23, 2007, 20:39:33

Quote from: "tim_aka_tim"

BTW, towing a Lardy with a Jeep is the ultimate oxymoron!

 :lol:  :lol: I am afraid my faith in landrovers has dropped over the past few years,i think the defender is a fantastic car but the others have got too clever for their own good.If landrover stuck to basics they wouldnt go too far wrong but they are now aiming for the rockstar/footballist market and forgetting what made them so popular in the first place :roll:

If the tow limit is 3.5t i am ok,if it is below 3 then they are off the list i am afraid :? .I sold a turbo deisel cherokee(not grand) a few years ago because the limit was 2.8t so i am hopeing the grand has a higher limit
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: minimog on July 27, 2007, 17:54:25

acording to 4x4 mag the legal tow limet for the grand is 3500kgs
the others are landrover defender
diatsu fourtrak izuzu trooper
 most of the others are only rated to 2800kgs

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 29, 2007, 18:15:19

Have put a deposit on a 1999 vreg 4.0limited with LPG.Not sure i have done the right thing but only time will tell.Pick it up midweek :D
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on July 29, 2007, 19:27:00

Let us know what you think... :wink:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 29, 2007, 21:23:17

Oh dont worry i will :wink: .It will have its first real test over the bank holiday weekend when its got to tow my landrover to pitlochry and back(around 700 mile round trip?).
it needs a few jobs doing first like fit a towbar(not much good as a towcar without one :roll: )and it needs some new tyres,but i am looking for a set of different wheels cos i dont like the ones fitted.
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on July 29, 2007, 22:25:56

Thats some test.... :lol:  8)

As for tyres try for some AT's ....wont affect handling and will be better off road...

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 29, 2007, 22:55:21

hoping to find some 17" 5 spokes as fitted to the gc,then i wont have to buy new tyres for the 16"wheels it has got on now.Will go for bf goodrich ats if i can get them in an apropriate size
It will no doubt have to pull the trailer through some nasty terrain,especially on the Tay forrest challenge in august.But as i said ,it will be a good test for it.It is quite low mileage(56k)for a 1999 so hopefully should be a goodun :?
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on July 29, 2007, 23:15:39

56k on a 99 plate :wink:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: CaptainColourful on July 30, 2007, 02:07:43

Don't worry about the LPG conversion. I doubt you will notice a difference in peformance, just in the weight of your wallet.
I smile when I fill mine up, although the price can vary depending on how cheeky the garages are. In the last week I have paid between 39p & 50p per litre.
BUT
Its still at least half price  :lol:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 30, 2007, 21:30:52

I think at the mo,our local lpg place is charging 41p/per litre,bit better than 94p for unleaded :D
Picking car up tommorow so will put some pictures up to see what you think?
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Fat Gaz on July 31, 2007, 20:40:32

Any pics yet  :lol:  ??

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on July 31, 2007, 23:29:02

just got home,will take some tomorow in the daylight.1st impressions are very good however i have found a few faults already :roll:
1-alarm plips are a bit tempramental,may just require batteries?
2-o/s headlamp steamed up
3-feels a bit wooly on the front end but this may be due to worn tyres,will check pressures tomorow too
4-stainless bits to take off(a-bar and side tubes)dont like them #-o
5-k&n filter to secure a bit better
6-wants a bloody good valet :oops:
7-towbar to fit

will keep me busy this next few weeks :wink:
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on July 31, 2007, 23:54:06

I..seems an idea

5...K&N... :lol: ...

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: minimog on August 01, 2007, 08:55:54

has it got the older type fuelinjection on(has the throtle body vertical ) if so  fit a throtle body spacer on it improves the mid range responce
fitted one to mine i was a bit sceptical at first but took it out for a run and you can tell the diference (i was towing 3.5 ton of unimog/trailer at weekend did fine even towed it with a punchered tyre on the trailer)
hope you like it as much as i like mine :lol:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on August 01, 2007, 22:18:29

where do you get these throttle spacers from?

This is the car in question :shock: need to start modding a bit now i think.Does anyone do a suspension lift for 1999 gc's?
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 01, 2007, 23:33:25

OK

First thing...it looks good :wink:  :lol:

Throttle body spacer can be sourced from the US from the likes of Quadratec or 4WD Hardware, believe the best is a Hesco..so for a few more squids to avoid the hassle Mark at MDG in Portsmouth stocks them...

As for lift stuff.....see above

Oh and have a mooch on NAGCA for some more information :wink:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on August 01, 2007, 23:37:15

will look better wen i get rid of the bling :oops: .Had a look at nagca,very interesting site
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: minimog on August 01, 2007, 23:39:00

i got my spacer  from specilist leasure made by airaid
and procomp do lift kits for the zj not sure about urs just give the a bell
how high do you want to go
in the states they fit the front coils on the rear it gives a 3-4" lift then all you have to get is a set of 3-4" lift coils for the front and sort the panhard rods out and lenthen the front lower control arms  :wink:
will be doing mine (but making new control arms) in a few weeks

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on August 02, 2007, 21:41:42

only want to lift about 2" cos i dont want to spoil it as a towcar.I just think it looks a bit limp as it is,i am used to a 4.2 landcruiser with a procomp lift kit and the cherokee looks a bit low  :wink:
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on August 04, 2007, 23:20:50

got my new tyres today,decided to stick with the 16" wheels cos of the larger choice of tyre sizes.Got some 245/70/16 goodyear wrangler at/r's.Also finished de-blinging it by removing the stainless side tubes and a-bar #-o
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 05, 2007, 13:40:33

Looks good..

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: marsie on August 10, 2007, 20:29:41

Got my towbar fitted,was a pig due to the fuel tank being dropped 20mm :x but at least its on(modified a bit :wink: )
Has anyone got a contact number/website for MDG in portsmouth(for the throttle body spacer),also do you think it will benefit my car with it having a LPG conversion or wont that matter?
Paul :twisted:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Deedee on August 10, 2007, 21:42:11

MDG for TBS Noooooooooo!

www.4wd.com - http://www.4wd.com/subcategories.aspx?cid=1&jeep-sid=4
www.quadratec.com

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 10, 2007, 22:32:03

eh and the issue is????????

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Deedee on August 10, 2007, 23:35:26

Have you got a TBS?

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: isle of man on August 11, 2007, 10:16:14

Quote from: "marsie"

Has anyone got a contact number/website for MDG in portsmouth(for the throttle body spacer),also do you think it will benefit my car with it having a LPG conversion or wont that matter?
Paul :twisted:

http://www.offroadmdg.co.uk
ask mark about the compatibility.



peter henry

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 11, 2007, 11:38:53

Fitted a 60mm Hesco TBS on the TJ last weekend and whilst the electrics get used to it am already noticing a  positive change in low/mid range performance

MDG's service was good too :wink:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Deedee on August 11, 2007, 12:46:34

Mark does provide an excellent service, but you don't need someone to fit a TBS.

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 11, 2007, 13:13:33

Quote from: "Deedee"

Mark does provide an excellent service, but you don't need someone to fit a TBS.

Meant the speed of dispatch :wink:
Actually did fit it myself :lol:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: isle of man on August 11, 2007, 20:21:06

Quote from: "Bishops Finger"

Actually did fit it myself :lol:

stew................stand back..............sit down...........................have a leffe.

now,

















what have you done unassisted on the wrangler?






peter henry

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 11, 2007, 22:03:52

Quote from: "Bishops Finger"

Quote from: "Deedee"

Mark does provide an excellent service, but you don't need someone to fit a TBS.

Meant the speed of dispatch :wink:
Actually did fit it myself :lol:

I know  :roll:  :lol:  :shock:

Twas a shock especially when there were no bolts left over and the TJ still started..... 8)  :lol:  :lol:

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: isle of man on August 11, 2007, 23:40:59

i see you have been on the leffe as you have quoted your very own post!!!!









peter henry

Title: grand cherokee tow limits???
Post by: Bishops Finger on August 11, 2007, 23:48:32

D'oh nstuff.....