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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: mentalmoshio sophs V8i on September 27, 2007, 17:50:02
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seen these massive tyres and at 125 quid a piece im sure thinkin about it but i going to need
a other 4 inches of lift at least
brake pipes
relocated shocks to stop belly out on archs
rear exhuast system in the way of wheel movement.
wheel arch flares
axle ratio
steering problems
any body done this before.............
like to know any other problem areas
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I suspect those tyres are they are Super Swamper Boggers made by Interco, which is what the anacondas were based on. I have their 34" LTBs waiting for substantial outer wheel arch mods to a RRC which is already suspension and body lifted a good 3"
Kiss good by to your half shafts.
Personally I would start a fresh for a set of 38" tyres, using something like Toyota axles and you might as well make the front end 1 or 3 or 4 link whilst your at it 8) Build it all with a lot of lift and reroute the brake lines along suspension links so you don't risk stretching and provides a degree of protection.
Hay, whilst your at it pickup/tray back it and have exhaust stakes behind the cab so clearance round the axle/tyres is not an issue.
Go one you know you want to :(shades):
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check the american landie on 38 in the extreme one gallery. its that type im thinkin of. besides i use it every day so on road handlin will have to me a main issue to.saw a range rover on 33 for road with a 10 lift and 40 inch mud tyres.
THE TYREs ARE NEW FROM SILVERLINE 4X4 AND NOT AMERICAN ONES BUT THEY DO LOOK GOOD BUT WAY TO WIDE PAST 12.5 WIDE
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seen these massive tyres and at 125 quid a piece im sure thinkin about it but i going to need
a other 4 inches of lift at least
brake pipes
relocated shocks to stop belly out on archs
rear exhuast system in the way of wheel movement.
wheel arch flares
axle ratio
steering problems
any body done this before.............
like to know any other problem areas
that is going to hurt your pocket a lot......you will have some serious issues to contend with offroad.and onroad i doubt you will ever be able to have a comfortable ride let alone a safe ride.....i ran a six inch lift on the rear with 36s and the car stood over 7 foot high...you will have to sort out driveline angles for props ect as there is nothing you can buy off the shelf for that.also your transmission,half shafts,diffs,axle mounting points will all need to be changed and seriously strengthened!!!!
going above 35 inch tyres i believe the car becomes a buggy (in american terms) and not a car.
mike
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plan for the road is to
lower the anti roll bars by 6inches with a customade drop kit. never took them off it gives a form of hydric control without the ace system on later models
extended bumpstop with lower mount custom made
30 degree propshafts 300 quid
cranked rear trailing arm 150 quid
6 degree qt radius arm with castor corrected bushes 300 quid
4;7 diff a local guy does them for 35 quid
24 spline half shalfs. 50 quid each
so it should ratain normal road holding except for the increase in the centre of gravity
or might cut spring hangers of and lower them by 2 inches and reweld them also drop the shock mounts by 4 inches
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not trying to p...on your chips but i see a few problems or issues.the stuf you are looking to buy ie
extended bumpstop with lower mount custom made
30 degree propshafts 300 quid
cranked rear trailing arm 150 quid
6 degree qt radius arm with castor corrected bushes 300 quid
are not going to sort out those problems.....
4.7 is not going to correct the gearing to normal and an increase in lift is going to affect cog whatever you do....which will in turn affect road manners and seriously affect offroad fun....
standard 24 spline half shafts will break with the torque of your engine...
if you are seriously planning that size of tyre then expext to increase your credit card limit and make sure you can weld.........
like i said it is just some friendly advise and not a dig at you but this will cost a fortune and i repeat there is nothing you can buy off the shelf that will accomodate your needs....you are in hybrid builders territory and not a lot of people will give their answers freely...
mike
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Are THESE (http://www.devon4x4.com/shop.php?mode=productview&product=287/url) the beauties?
(http://www.devon4x4.com/user/superswamper_Bogger.jpg)
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basically there a cross with macho and micky thompson claw
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if u go to rds-eng.co.uk that guy gives all the problems and solves them or try discoweb.net for 38 craze landie
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or try discoweb.net for 38 craze landie
Their are some nice landys on that site, come to think of it its a good job I'm single as I dread to think what a miss's would say if caught looking at a site like that.
Ohh =P~
(http://www.discoweb.net/rrbenziskind/IM000038.jpg)
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Agree...........looks cool but dont think you wouldget much articulation off road.
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wow! well, im after a lift and fat ol' tyres. are you sure about 38s?
ive been in dream land too and looking at 33's, check my thread out
http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=40339
even thats a lot of work. ok, i'd love it to be kinda good offroad, but it would look awsome! 38's are nuts. try http://www.rdseng.co.uk/Products1.htm see what they say, as they do it day in day out. goodluck, and if you go for it, chuck your pics up on here!!! :D :D :D
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Dave, even 33's can be a pain... i recently put 285 75's on mine, and broke two diffs within a month, i now swap over to my old wheels with 235 85's for off roading, and only put the big ones on for road use, it's a right flippin pain....!!
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Steve,
As Chugga says, "not trying to p*** on your chips" but just pointing out some areas that may need a little more thought as we don't want you wasting your money on something that's not going to work. :wink:
What are the 4.7 diffs from? If they're Series diffs then they won't take the loading. They will need to be alot stronger than standard, maybe a 4 pin that's been pegged (http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/category_14.html) and £35 for a diff says they're used Series, 10 spline diffs. :wink:
The 30 degree propshafts may also cause you problems as, although they go to 30 degrees, they will vibrate like hell on the road if you ask them to opperate at that angle all the time. You should be looking at the likes of a double cardon jointed propshaft if you want any sort of reliability from the U/Js and a lack of vibrations.
I may have read this wrong but, why do you need 6 degree caster corrected radus arms with caster corrected bushes fitted? What height of suspension lift are you putting on? I see you have a +2" on there now and I've also seen your thread about a 3" body lift but the 6 degree corrected radius arms with normal bushes should do upto a +4" lift.
To keep the ARB's at the right level then you only have to drop the chassis mounts by the same amount as you've raised the suspension, although you may find that this will reduce the departure angle at the rear. I removed mine and got springs rated so that ARBs weren't required.
Something else to think about is what your insurance will have to say!!
You must inform your insurance company about every modification to the vehicle because they could well turn round and refuse a claim leaving you liable for everything and open to a charge of driving without insurance!
At the very least they may want you to get an engineers report on the modifications before they will insure you, at worst they won't insure you. Some refuse to insure modified vehicles completely. :roll:
Unfortuately there's not a cheap way to do what you're looking at. Some of the engineering will require some thought to get it work as it has to be strong & safe enough to put on the road.
My best advice is to have the idea of where you want to be with the vehicle and then do it bit-by-bit until you get there. :wink:
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4;11 diffs was the other one or portal axle to raise the diff out the way by 5 inchs than normal
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THIS ONE HAS A 3 INCH BODY LIFT
5 INCH LIFT SPRINGS
2 AXLE SPACER
HENCE U NEED 9 DEGS OF CASTOR CORRECTION FOR 6 INCHES OF LIFT ON THE SPRINGS
HE RUNS ON 38/14.5/16
ENGINE IS 5L V8 TUNED RUNNING ON A 4.6L AIR SYSTEM
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HE WE GO
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Rather than get carried away lifting the suspension until it stops catching, take a grinder and welder to the wheel archs inside and out. You will probably lose the rear doors on a 4dr but 38" tyres arn't exactly practical either.
Lifting the suspension that much puts a excess strain on other suspension components. For instance the rear trailing rams which when run at such a steep angle will try and turn under the car if driven forwards into an obsticle or the there tyres revers into an obstickle. It won't matter whether they are cranked or not as the pivots will still be in the same place.
The same goes for the front radius arm, panhard rod, A frame etc. as well as parts of the chassis like the anti rollbar mounts.
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cant stand discos what have been chopped all over the place just to make wheel fit beside gives room for bigger ones. saw many discos on a 6 inch lift running on 35/12.5/16 the 3 inch body lift will make 38 look a mini monster truck. as for axle movement bits u can grind the rear trailer mount to gain more poivet and control it with a check stape and bumpstop hight . its ground clearence im after the lpg tank sit 3 inchs below cills which effects ramp break over angel with the added increase of apporch and departure angle
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Another thing to think about is that as you go up in suspension height then, unless you lengthen the radus & trailing arms, then you'll reduce the wheelbase as the axles rotate around the fixing points for the arms. This also has the effect of leaving the nose of the diff up in the air and the speing seats on the axles will be out of position.
Putting caster corrected bushes on a 6" lift will mean changing bushes quite often because of their construction. They're walls are thinner on one side and the strain they will be under will cause frequent failure. Correctly made radius arms may do the trick but you'll be better off with either custom made swivel housings and lenghtened radius arms or cutting all the mountings off the axle, rotating the axle to the correct position and welding the mountings back on again.
You'll also have to do something to lower & lengthen the rear A frame balljoint so that the top of the rear axle is in the correct position.
To be honest, if you want extra ground clearance then get shot of the LPG tanks and put one in side. It'll be far cheaper, and a lot less work, than all the engineering you're looking at to make the suspension fit around the problem caused by the tanks. :wink:
Oh, and here's mine on a +3" lift, cut arches and 33x12.5x15's.
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/landrovers/disco14.jpg)
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/landrovers/001.jpg)
Sometimes extra height can be a disadvantage like for getting under overhanging tree trunks:
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/landrovers/Bel01.jpg)
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nice but you have 16 inchs of clearence fom the ground to tree slider if i had the same wheels and lift as you i would have 13.5 inches clearence. the lpg tank are not moving there is nowhere else believe me
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why do you want 38 inch tyres :roll: :roll:
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nice but you have 16 inchs of clearence fom the ground to tree slider if i had the same wheels and lift as you i would have 13.5 inches clearence. the lpg tank are not moving there is nowhere else believe me
Surely the 1st thing thats gonna ground is the diffs and all the bodylift in the world won't change that. Unless your planning some extreme pay and play driving Your not gonna find anything on a greenlane that'll need 38" wheels.
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nice but you have 16 inchs of clearence fom the ground to tree slider if i had the same wheels and lift as you i would have 13.5 inches clearence. the lpg tank are not moving there is nowhere else believe me
Surely the 1st thing thats gonna ground is the diffs and all the bodylift in the world won't change that. Unless your planning some extreme pay and play driving Your not gonna find anything on a greenlane that'll need 38" wheels.
exactly :roll:
i just think its pointless unless your planning on going ladoga next year :roll:
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never intend on going greenlane its got no appeal. got a motto i do intend take my truck home in one piece hence the extreme stuff is out for people how have not worries what will happen to it.
the best offroad fun is rtv or a fun day believe me its, like what motocross biker would use
diffs can belly out but never had that problem just fit diff gaurds and knobby tyres . its my ramp breakover angle which is my discos downside
most of would agree a disco on 35inch simex is a best yes . well 38inch will correct my ground clearence by 1 and a half and the lift does the rest to be the same as one on 35s
here a question. a mate rekon a standard disco is better offroad than one on 38inch or 750r16 . he does have one buy the way
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can anybody who has a disco or range rover with 35s or bigger on plz leave me everything u had to do to it that way i will know for sure what really involed thank you
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seen these massive tyres and at 125 quid a piece im sure thinkin about it but i going to need
a other 4 inches of lift at least
brake pipes
relocated shocks to stop belly out on archs
rear exhuast system in the way of wheel movement.
wheel arch flares
axle ratio
steering problems
any body done this before.............
like to know any other problem areas
who sells tyres that size for that price??
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a fellow challenge friend of mine runs his disco on 35" simex, not bobbed or nothing, and his will go anywhere my 90 does
you simply dont need massive tyres
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they will be available from silverline 4x4 there not online yet but they are in lroi this month its in the middle pages
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here is a shot of 36x12.5 for perspective.its next to my washing machine.
mike
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a disco on 35's is abit of a nightmare on side slopes being so top heavy, what it will be like on 38's :roll:
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be even worst with a roof rack on all the time . side slop are the last thing i go on the most . axle locker help with that anyway that and controlled spring travel . wouldnt like to know what a 70 rangie is like on 38s
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Some times you can't help but be on a side slope, I've had it before on a failed hill climb where the range rover ended up slid round :(scared): and other times where the lane just banks and there is no option but to be on an angle or reverse back the way you came.
Widening the vehicles track is important to maintain stability (and turning circle) with bigger tyres. Another reason for fitting different axles is that some have a much wider track as standard than LR axles, plus you can overcome all the strength issues.
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are right your talking about the Mudzila and Creepy crawlers, been looking at them myself in the 35's for my 90..
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thats the ones mudv
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Can't get my head around why anyone would want to put 38's on a discovery.
It will certainly ruin any sort of road performance the vehicle might have had and as for off road use the articulation would be extremely limited. To counter that and give any sort of usability in cross axle situations both diffs would need lockers as well.
Not a practical solution at all fitting 38's. Even 35's will cause similar problems as mentioned if many other parts of the running gear and transmission are not properly sorted. Most who fit these big wheels will have you believe it all works fine . . . but some of us know the truth . . . . we've already been there . . . .
All I can say is that it is really only for the looks and personally I think it would look out of proportion and a bit silly.
A well sorted truck like Budgies on sensible running gear should out perform a truck on 38's any day of the week. As for the gas tanks . . . that's just an excuse, there's loads of alternatives . . . . and I know plenty who run them under the chassis without any problems whatsoever. By your own admission you said the extreme stuff was out because you want to drive the truck home . . . . so whats the problem?
Here's mine on 33/12.5's and a sensible lift . . . . this truck articulates very nicely, has the necessary suspension/transmission mods and performs impeccably on the road.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd294/ramsden903/Articulation-01-10-07/a4bb0790.jpg)
All down to a bit of fore-thought and porperly sorting the bits needed to make it all hang together.
The Disco is NOT the vehicle to be undertaking the mods you will need to do make it all work, I'd have a serious think about it and talk to those who have been there and done it . . . . as was suggested earlier, you are in hybrid territory and well sorted ones do not come cheap :wink:
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4.7 diffs...... :lol:
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Can't get my head around why anyone would want to put 38's on a discovery.
It will certainly ruin any sort of road performance the vehicle might have had and as for off road use the articulation would be extremely limited. To counter that and give any sort of usability in cross axle situations both diffs would need lockers as well.
Not a practical solution at all fitting 38's. Even 35's will cause similar problems as mentioned if many other parts of the running gear and transmission are not properly sorted. Most who fit these big wheels will have you believe it all works fine . . . but some of us know the truth . . . . we've already been there . . . .
All I can say is that it is really only for the looks and personally I think it would look out of proportion and a bit silly.
A well sorted truck like Budgies on sensible running gear should out perform a truck on 38's any day of the week. As for the gas tanks . . . that's just an excuse, there's loads of alternatives . . . . and I know plenty who run them under the chassis without any problems whatsoever. By your own admission you said the extreme stuff was out because you want to drive the truck home . . . . so whats the problem?
Here's mine on 33/12.5's and a sensible lift . . . . this truck articulates very nicely, has the necessary suspension/transmission mods and performs impeccably on the road.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd294/ramsden903/Articulation-01-10-07/a4bb0790.jpg)
All down to a bit of fore-thought and porperly sorting the bits needed to make it all hang together.
The Disco is NOT the vehicle to be undertaking the mods you will need to do make it all work, I'd have a serious think about it and talk to those who have been there and done it . . . . as was suggested earlier, you are in hybrid territory and well sorted ones do not come cheap :wink:
must say i have way more travel than you and mine has 35's. you are right it isnt easy to achieve but can be done. I have just spent a week in Kirton helping set up the Euro challenge and drove there and home at between 60 and 70 with no issues(other then horrendous fuel economy!!).
AS for hybrids costing a fortune only if you are stupid enough to buy someone elses bodge!! ive seen some right crates.
If i wanted a hybrid i wouldnt pay someone for their 'practice' build!!
At the euro challenge one of the guys was using his freshly bought truck,it was very nice but for 17k or so it should be...i could build better for a lot less.
If he wants to fit 38's why shouldnt he? its his truck and im all for people stretching what has been done b4. but fo rspeed trials it will be pig slow on stock gearing!! as rolla says 4.7 diffs would be best but would blow up very easy best to go for 4.75 from Cam as they do the ring and pinion :wink:
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Hi Bulli.
Yeah mate I know your truck, one of the best sorted around, respect mate . . . .
and I'm not saying 35's don't work in a Disco . . . I know they do . . . . will probably end up in mine as well when the 33's wear out :wink:
BTW . . . I'm seriously looking at 3-link for the future . . . . that should get things flexing a bit more.
Oh . . . and in that pic the suspension is not on the limits :lol:
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i guessed lol
3 link is the future, just dont expect to be James Hunt on the back lanes lol
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Sorted fella . . . . . . . . :wink:
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i wouldnt fit 33 /12.5/16 fit 285/75/16 there be better believe me.
i going 35/10.5/16 and 6inch lift minium . for the sake of big wheel converison you r better of going for it than holding back.
my mate used to have 265 on but now has 36s and 5 inch lift.
and never looked back.
as for 3 link at 1500 quid noway it simply wouldnt need it . trailer maybe but for the road the handling would be none control able.
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i wouldnt fit 33 /12.5/16 fit 285/75/16 there be better believe me.
i going 35/10.5/16 and 6inch lift minium . for the sake of big wheel converison you r better of going for it than holding back.
my mate used to have 265 on but now has 36s and 5 inch lift.
and never looked back.
as for 3 link at 1500 quid noway it simply wouldnt need it . trailer maybe but for the road the handling would be none control able.
you think, what so 70 perfectly smooth no pulling from steering isnt controlable??? how fast you think your 3.5 will go with 35's??
on stock gearing it probably wont pull 70....i know i have the same engine with freeflow exhaust and k+n/ safari snorkel.
why 16's and why narrow?
get some 15 inch rims and sort the offset...ps 35's fit with a 2inch lift!! 6 inch why???...yours will roll worse than mine lol!!
mine has a properly sorted 4 inch lift to give me the upward travel i need and i still need to raise my top mounts another 2 inch...
ps all tyres are not equal fit those crappy tyres and you put your life and others on the line if you do ever get to 70...!!!
where are you from?
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speed rating on 35s with 20mm of tread is normally 68mph with 14mm its 87mph.
i remember going down the motorway with 235/70/16 grizzly claw on and holding compared to macho was poor. that was doing 70mph like you said
with macho u hit the balance of grip in the mud and road holding apart from braking of course.
im always going to fit 18mm of tread tyre cause they get the job done so much easier than say bfg m/t. the main reason being the sidewall.
my truck is only used with mud tyres for a weekend hence there no need to rush.
the main reason why i wouldnt use 33/12.5/15 is
poorer turning
wheel skimmer
oversized rim causeing bearing wear quicker
on a 2lift they to fat compared to 285/75/16
which makes archs a problem for catching
more heavier and sinks in soft ground.
with 3 link is get off road but it height what stop me than grip at the wheel alot of the time. plus never one for rock clawling.
are wheel arch flares worth the money?
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Well I can say that my turning circle is about the same as your is now with my 33" tyres because I've got spacers fitted. Some others have gone 10x15 wheels with the greater offset to retain the turning circle.
With 38" tyres then your turning circle will be even more reduced than what it would be with 33's.
You'll also need some sort of wheelarch flares for the vehicle to remain legal on the road as they have to cover the tyres by law.
As for the wheel bearings, if you think 33" tyres are going to be a problem that what do think 38" is going to do, they're the same width but you'll need a larger offset and the running dia' is much greater?
In the 4 years I've had the 33's on the Disco I've had one set of bearings go, and that was the near side front which started rumbling on Saturday this week!! :wink:
As long as you keep them tight and well greased then you shouldn't have any problems.
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they would be fitted to 16x8 steel rims . its 10.5 wide im really looking for but it is early days .
with enough lift on the body 12.5 will be legal for the law.
12.5 for the fat look i really like
they do them upto 14.5 wide.
im running 265 and was going to fit 32/11.5/16 but couldnt find the tyres i wanted.
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they would be fitted to 16x8 steel rims . its 10.5 wide im really looking for but it is early days .
with enough lift on the body 12.5 will be legal for the law.
12.5 for the fat look i really like
they do them upto 14.5 wide.
im running 265 and was going to fit 32/11.5/16 but couldnt find the tyres i wanted.
right so there you go contradicting yourself???lol so you dont want wide tyres because they weigh more and so sink?? have you EVER driven with wide tyres? Have you ever been offroad?
Anyway go on fella maybe 10 inch lift and 40's is what you need. Just remember that your engine will struggle to make 40 on the road and break the diffs/halfshafts/cvs every time you sneeze.....
Tyre speed rating is nothing to do with tread depth...where did you get that idea??
The Performance Symbol indicates the maximum speed at which the tyre can carry it's maximum load.
The performance symbol of tyres are as follows:
Q : 99 mph,
R : 106 mph
S : 112 mph
T : 118 mph
H : 131 mph
VR : > 131 mph
V : 149 mph
ZR : > 149 mph.
W : 168 mph
Y : 186 mph
mine are rated as Q which is legal as the spec for my 3.5 says it will do 98 mph lol...but i think you will find most MTS are illegal for road use.
oh and its rock CRAWLING.
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Colway Greenway Anaconda 16 Inch diameter
With self cleaning capabilties and extra large grooves between the tread, this tyre performs when the going gets tough.
265/75/K/16
£63.27
Quantity:
With self cleaning capabilties and extra large grooves between the tread, this tyre performs when the going gets tough.
Designed in Durham alongside the Colway range, Greenway tyres satisfy the requirements of 4 x 4 competition racing or simply extreme 4 x 4 off road. Specifically designed to cope with such activity, the tyres are able to cope with extreme amounts of mud, meaning nothing can stand in the way of you and your off road adventure! Greenway tyres are a must for anybody seriously considering 4 x 4 competitions.
this type of tyre i meant had a speed rating of 68mph
Colway Greenway Macho 16 Inch diameter
Capable in extreme, hostile conditions, excellent self-cleaning capabilities and a scalloped shoulder system.
265/75/M/16
£55.51
Quantity:
Capable of operating in extreme, hostile conditions, with excellent self-cleaning capabilities and a scalloped shoulder system.
this one has a speed rating of 87 mph.
wide tyres are better for floatation i.e on sand. narrow tyres are better for deep mud.
10.5 is ideal and used for most comp. discos.but they are not available yet in plus 35s . to what i have found.
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so if i wrote a load of advertising blurp that would make it right?
most articles in magazines use extracts from the manufacturer and are in some way biased...sorry guys in the trade(you know who you are).
so they are illegal on your truck then....great! hope you dont have an accident and find yourself without insurnace.
So build it, go on im waiting.... :roll:
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right then . what illegal bully?
everything will be road legal its got to be . whats all the fuss about ?
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do u remember reading the ice landic range rover on 38/14.5/16 orange g4 lookalike 1 in lre aug 2006 think that was 3.5 v8i producing 125 bhp if i remember right.
come to think of it there was a tdi disco with 38/15.5/16 , i have to add mite that one was done wrong in my eye. think it all had to with the rear axle being moved back 6 inch wheel base of a 106 inch mmm. hows that going to help with ramp break over?. as for using it being so wide mmmm .could do with a lot of room to offroad in.
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right then . what illegal bully?
everything will be road legal its got to be . whats all the fuss about ?
if you put tyres on your car which are rated for a lower speed than the manufacturer says its capable of it is illegal.
That means that your insurance could be invalid in the event of a crash...not fun.
the 3.5v8i makes 185bhp according to parkers....
you still have trouble. I have 4.1 ratio diffs in mine with tiny 35's and it doesnt want to pull on the motorway.... so 38's is quite an increase in rolling radius.
The icelandic one may have had changed ratios in the diff....its either that or transfer case...but that only alters high box ratios. 4.1 only corrects to stock gearing with 31's....
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Steve
Just a thought, if I'm reading this right the big tyres will only be used off road, and you will therefore presumably revert to a more normal sized tyre for normal driving?
Is that right?
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with enough lift on the body 12.5 will be legal for the law.
Not if they stick out beyond the width of the body they won't.
You can have the vehicle as high as you want but the tyres still have to remain inside the width of the body.
That's why I, and others, have gone for the wheelarch flares. They allow the fitting of wider tyres or a wider track but they still cover the tyres and remain within the law.
You may well find that you'll get a larger choise of tyre size if you also look at the 15" instead of trying to stick with 16's. :wink:
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get portals!
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has this thread title changed? :?
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Keri,
this thread has more turns and twists than the thames!lol
yes but the originator moved off subject ages ago....i didnt help lol
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ahhhh
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the 3.5l v8 produced different bhp over the year i ll try to get this right
1970 range rover 130 bhp
mid 1970 range rover 125- 127 bhp
stage one v8 series 3 had 91 bhp
last 2 door range rover had 135 bhp
11o and 90 pre 87 had 114 bhp
11o and 90 after 87 had had 135bhp
early disco had 145 bhp.
with injection you get
165 bhp on all range rovers with 3.5 l v8i
disco with a cat had 153 bhp
disco pre cat had 165 bhp.
as for the sd1 35oo p5b rover cars and the rest i dont know
arch will have to cover the tyre 4 sure .
right lets stay on 37s plus tyres before i lose the plot. thank you
tell u what i ll start a new post for best articu.......lation
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[Edited] buy a 90
2 inch lift
fit 37's
break axles
fit portals
go to pub :roll:
Job done :!:
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also
crack on with a thread for flexin
bet mine has more than you
RTI of 1170 IIRC
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[Edited] buy a 90
2 inch lift
fit 37's
break axles
fit portals
go to pub :roll:
Job done :!:
well said that man!
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had swb before . not big enough for me know. 130 maybe
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Steve, you did'nt answer my question!! :wink:
Will it be on ickle road tyres during the week? Just might look a bit odd, that's all...
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yeah prob 750r16 or 900r16 depends on lift and general handling. bigger road tyres for day to day use thats been on the card for a while just never got them yet
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is it me or has everyone thought 35s abit the same now everbody would fit. just going on looking at the poll.
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MY 35'S ARE EVERDAY TYRES ON MY 110, AND DRIVES JUST FINE ON THE ROAD, IT HAS A NEW 3.9 V8 AND PULLED IT EASILY UPTO 80MPH YESTERDAY, WOULD HAVE GONE MORE BUT SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING IN!
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Guardian, i take it your 110 has a 110 gearbox?? lol + dont forget your speedo is way on the [throw it] with those size tyres..
disco tfr boxes are much higher...which is why its a common mod for discos with bug tyres.
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my 90 is on stock gearing with 35's and goes fine, sits at 70 all day 8) 8)
you need a 200 bulli :twisted: :twisted:
[Edited] do you want 38's for its kin nonsense for general offroading
fit 35's and stop being such a pillock :roll:
you wont break axles gubbings as easy,
you wont spend more time on your side that all 4
you wont have to faff around with gearing just fit a 90 transfer box
wont have to take a load out of the arches
wont need stupid offset wheels
its just silly full stop on cadbury axles :!:
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^^ What the (TheBlueySilverThing) said!!! ^^
Going that large is just going to be smashtastic on all your bits of transmission- although landrover transmissions are relatively speaking 'strong' they weren't designed for that kind of punishment.
Even if you go with 33s or 35s it'll still be capable, and driveable (relatively speaking)
As far as I can tell you only need wheels as big as your suggesting if your going to be driving up a glacier, swamp running, if you drive some kind of earthmoving equipment or for those who want to pose!!!!
There was a vehicle for sale (possibly a 110) in a mag a few months ago where someone had put mega wheels on it, and it had just become unusable- surely thats all that will happen with the wheels you suggest too?!
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[Edited] do you want 38's for its kin nonsense for general offroading
fit 35's and stop being such a pillock
Which is what I was trying to say in the first place . . . some posts ago . . . . [Edited]
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i'm with the three amigos ^^^^^^
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Got 35"s on mine and it goes better than when I had 32" remoulds. I wouldn't want to go any bigger myself as I already need to do some more trimming under the arches.
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my 90 is on stock gearing with 35's and goes fine, sits at 70 all day 8) 8)
you need a 200 bulli :twisted: :twisted:
mine will mate but the economy makes you cry. My point was that the 110 qnd 90 are lower geared than the disco anyway.
mine cruised back from Kirton after a week in the mud laiden will a weeks gear and rooftent!....proof of the pudding and all that....and diesels sound crap! lol
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i used to run on 33s and a 3 inch lift until i bought a set of 36s
i did the following (amongst other mods)
6 inch spring lift on the rear
5 inch spring lift on the front
:idea: i suggest you go buy 38s or larger and show us all how you do it :idea:
mike
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[Edited] do you want 38's for its kin nonsense for general offroading
fit 35's and stop being such a pillock
Which is what I was trying to say in the first place . . . some posts ago . . . . [Edited]
i also said the same a whilst back, and it didnt seem to sink in with him :roll: :roll:
its complete and utter rubbish fitting them size tyres, unless you plan on entering the ladoga challenge which i highly doubt,
i think exactly the same as someone else said, you dont need them unless you want to pose
bulli......a v8 is no good for filling chav cars full of soot and smoke :tongue:
just a richness smell, as its only running on 6 or 7 :tongue:
coat, door......running :lol:
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dan, you have said coat door running twice now.,.. before you know it not only will you have an angry scottsman (mikee) and a sheffieldman (bully) but the rest of MC too!! lol
R
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:lol:
got a person from the south coast to go yet :tongue:
there only jokes
join the banter rob :P
no one has a sense of humor on here no more, the sight really has gone down hill :cry:
me and mike just like to liven the forums up once in a while :P
as with bulli, it was a perfect oppanunity, but he'll get his own back next time he sees me, he'll fill my scroutineering card full of crosses :lol: :lol:
dan 8)
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i think a lot of people are saying that those size tyres arnt really the way forward FOR A REASON! just take into consideration what they are saying, they may have been (or been close) there before, and know the limitations of the truck. obviously amercians love beefing stuff up, which is great. but there's a lota work gone into all that kit, like sub frame thingy-majigs and all that.
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as far as i know im not doing the scruitineering at Tong...im hoping not anyway lol
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I have to say im a little puzzled over this thread guys, and the whole jacking up thing.
I had a Disco 300tdi with BFG Muds, diff guards, tank guard and steering guard. I found that that went through every green lane i needed and was very capable both on and off road.
My mates had 265R16's which are slightly larger (31"???) and they would have probably have been good on my truck however what about roll over angles, alot of local lanes would have me a bit worried let alone with the truck over half a foot higher...
How do you keep articulation when you go to 38's and stuff? Are 38's really that much better, i mean i used mine ALL the time, vertuallyu every couple of days and scraping the floor never worried me. Especially if i took waffle boards.
Or is it just a look thing?
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I have to say im a little puzzled over this thread guys, and the whole jacking up thing.
I had a Disco 300tdi with BFG Muds, diff guards, tank guard and steering guard. I found that that went through every green lane i needed and was very capable both on and off road.
My mates had 265R16's which are slightly larger (31"???) and they would have probably have been good on my truck however what about roll over angles, alot of local lanes would have me a bit worried let alone with the truck over half a foot higher...
How do you keep articulation when you go to 38's and stuff? Are 38's really that much better, i mean i used mine ALL the time, vertuallyu every couple of days and scraping the floor never worried me. Especially if i took waffle boards.
Or is it just a look thing?
TBH i dont think he knows. 38's are pretty damn big. rolls are more likely the higher you go but he seems to have discovered a new form of offroading similar to MXing...who knows.
so far his truck is stockish so i guess hes either got the bug bad and wants to go extreme everywhere or he gathering info for some unknown reason lol
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musta spoken to scrapiron bulli :lol: :lol:
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yer ha s got 110 gearbox etc, BUT, my disco has a disco box and runs fine on 35's, admittedly the fuel pump is tweaked but thats it, i think it must vary from vehicle to vehicle somehow, as our other 200tdi is 100% standard but runs 33's and has very little effect,other than smashed a cv joint, but it had done 120k before it smashed.
Plus ours are 95% road used its just advertising vehicles really sodont get much offroadstick, but i still think there a lot of smelly stuff about.
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here is 38s in action and the tyre what started all this
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did you not see the pound signs behind them ? for the 4pin diffs, h/d cv's, h/d shafts ??
you really are being daft with tyre size for land rovers cadbury axles :roll: :roll: :roll:
so your going to spend 700 ish quid on tyres
then another 2k on beefing the axles up, just so you dont break somthing going up a kerb, let alone offroad :roll:
get a grip will you, you dont need them size of tyres for the uk
[Edited] people have only just started 37 inch tyres for challenges :shock: , and they need portal axles to run them and they stillbreak portals :roll:
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like i said steve, people arent saying its a bad idea for a reason
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The mud club massive are not usually wrong mate so if i were you i would read,ponder,then think,this is utter madness save your money and buy a tractor!!! my veiw is that to put huge tires and lift her as much as that you better start thinking about your advert on ebay for spares or repair :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and besides that,and i think im speaking for the majority here,what skill if any would you require to drive it?the answer is none,only the ability plant your right foot and maybe steer!!A fella that turns up in a standardish truck and out performs the heavly modded gets more respect from me than mr throw as much cash at it as you can.there has to be a huge amount of ability to out perform the modded trucks and i should know my disco is standard and has to compete with jacked up 90s and 110s oh and a rangie with thousands spent on it!!!!some of these i have driven and belive me it almost ruined my passion for lanning because nothing was a challenge any more!everytime you go out and get stuck or make a silly decsion you learn from it ,you wont because you wont get stuck!!!!can you see my point of veiw?dont get me wrong here i love landys with sensible mods but is this a sensible idea?could leave you nuts deep in mud and not being able to get pulled out because no one can get anywhere near you :oops: :oops: :oops: red faced you!!!still mate if you are going to go ahead good luck to you :lol: ill be watching ebay,could do with a bargin :D :D :D
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good job a mate owns a landy breakers then aint it
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got oversized wheels now. lets see what happens
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good job a mate owns a landy breakers then aint it
free parts. i'l be around in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
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free parts. i'l be around in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:[/quote]
aint that good still dear enough but not over priced
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steveo4v8i
Time to stick my oar in here :roll:
I have a stock discovery that runs on 235 70 16 greenway machos in the mud, and same size colway ATs for the road, so realistically speaking I know nothing about lifts, 38 inch tyres etc BUT
I have travelled quite extensively and attended/marshalled many off road events both in the UK and America to name a few.
The Americans ENGINEER huge lifts to their vehicles and accomodate tyres to suit the terrain that they are going to drive. The roads can accomodate them as they are VERY different to our roads.
You just need to look at the sort of stuff some of the boys on here do, they have gone through trial and error to get to where they are now, but if I was you I'd also look to people like Devon 4x4 for what they do to their machines. You will then see what is feasible for our road systems.
You say that the big mud stuff will only be used for weekend play? You still need to drive on the roads to get there!!
As for speed ratings, you need to be careful, its no good buying a 68MPH speed rated tyre and say "I won't go over 68MPH" thats not how it works. It is what your vehicle could do according to manufactures figures when new in standard form. So if Landrover say a Discovery can do 80MPH then your tyres MUST be speed rated for that or you are breaking the law.
Realistically you will probably never get pulled by the blue lights, but if you have an accident then your insurer will refuse to pay as you are using a product not fit for the purpose you are putting it too.
You have lots of ideas, but not all are suited to the UK shores! Iceland or America then yes, but not the UK.
EDIT.... as an aside, can you please concentrate on your typing as it is VERY hard to understand. you miss spell and mis use words in every posting. Take the time to do it right, and you may then be able to concentrate on the modifications on your vehicle without making a total hash of it as you do in some of your posts!
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i think crazymac hit the nail pretty much on the head.
i just thought so you might reread some of the posts i would do as you have and list my mods....maybe then you might listen??
safari gard 3 link
4 inch lift using scorpion springs
bottom dislocation front and rear
bfg mt 35, 12.5 x 15
arch cutaways and cut rear quater(not camel...more like t rex)
4.1 ashcroft ring and pinion with 24 spline halfshaft conversion
arb lockers front and rear
arb compressor
equippe rear trailing arms
qt diff guards
steering guard with relocater steering damper.
scorpion rear upper shock mounts.
gone 2 far front external shock mounts.
procomp mx7 adjustable shocks 13 inch travel.
7ft long front brake lines
safety devices internal roll cage
safety devices roofrack
cobra bucket seats with 4 point harnesses and disco front seats mounted in the rear.
qt bonnet light pod.
Warn 9.5 xp winch. (the xp stands for extreme performance)
kelvar sailing line
2 deep cycle batteries, exide and optima. wired together to give maximum winch time.
safari snorkle.
k+n filter
ive got bored...to get to that point i have gone through 3 sets of shocks 2 sets of springs 3 sets of tyres, loads of body modifications and several thousand pounds.
so listen to the advice and if you want to do it do it once.
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if a conversion costs say 3000 grand . how much has bulli spend with this lot
safari gard 3 link
4 inch lift using scorpion springs
bottom dislocation front and rear
bfg mt 35, 12.5 x 15
arch cutaways and cut rear quater(not camel...more like t rex)
4.1 ashcroft ring and pinion with 24 spline halfshaft conversion
arb lockers front and rear
arb compressor
equippe rear trailing arms
qt diff guards
steering guard with relocater steering damper.
scorpion rear upper shock mounts.
gone 2 far front external shock mounts.
procomp mx7 adjustable shocks 13 inch travel.
7ft long front brake lines
safety devices internal roll cage
safety devices roofrack
cobra bucket seats with 4 point harnesses and disco front seats mounted in the rear.
qt bonnet light pod.
Warn 9.5 xp winch. (the xp stands for extreme performance)
kelvar sailing line
2 deep cycle batteries, exide and optima. wired together to give maximum winch time.
safari snorkle.
k+n filter
ive got bored...to get to that point i have gone through 3 sets of shocks 2 sets of springs 3 sets of tyres, loads of body modifications and several thousand pounds.
its boys and there toys at the end of the day.
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if a conversion costs say 3000 grand . how much has bulli spend with this lot
safari gard 3 link £600
4 inch lift using scorpion springs £150
bottom dislocation front and rear £100
bfg mt 35, 12.5 x 15 £620
arch cutaways and cut rear quater(not camel...more like t rex) £free
4.1 ashcroft ring and pinion with 24 spline halfshaft conversion £1000
arb lockers front and rear £included in above
arb compressor £included in above
equippe rear trailing arms £100
qt diff guards £80
steering guard with relocater steering damper. £90
scorpion rear upper shock mounts. £80
gone 2 far front external shock mounts. £90
procomp mx7 adjustable shocks 13 inch travel. £280
7ft long front brake lines £free
safety devices internal roll cage £100(f in bargain,lol)
safety devices roofrack £400
cobra bucket seats with 4 point harnesses and disco front seats mounted in the rear. £90 including harnesses
qt bonnet light pod. £80
Warn 9.5 xp winch. (the xp stands for extreme performance) £600
kelvar sailing line £70
2 deep cycle batteries, exide and optima. wired together to give maximum winch time. £260
safari snorkle. £150
k+n filter £40
ive got bored...to get to that point i have gone through 3 sets of shocks 2 sets of springs 3 sets of tyres, loads of body modifications and several thousand pounds.
its boys and there toys at the end of the day.
so 4810....not bad reallyespecially as ive had it for 4 years it cost £2000 and it has never failed its mot. oh and it will go places you cant :wink:
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You know what guys, i have a Suzuki now and they are not as good off road as land rovers period! But i have to say the one good thing is that you dont get some of the "Landy Crap", i.e. Biggest tyres, Biggest Lift, high lift hanging off the back etc etc etc.
I USED my landy heavy all throughout greenlanes and pay and plays etc.
I have to say that i am impressed with bullys set up, when i see it with a 4 or 5 ft jack i think wow.
So please, someone show me a picture, a diagram, a scinario or anything where you need tyres, lifts etc any more than bullys set up! THE MAN HAS 5 FT OF FLEX!!!! Bully, i do take my hat off to you sir!
So come on someone, 40", 38" etc, it is [!Expletive Deleted!] [bollards]. I think the only thing you will get from 40" etc is VERY poor handling, a seriouslly comprimised roll over angle and huge stress to drive train etc.
Someone tell me what is impressive about tyres over 35"?
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got oversized wheels now. lets see what happens
when is it all happening then? chuck some pics and feedback up on here as you do it please. :lol: 8) what size tyres did you get in the end?
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so cmon
what tyres have you got
and being big headed about your freind owning a breakers yard.....please i couldnt give a toss
take it from me, i broke 1 half shaft and i got fed up of just changing that ! and i broke that at idle rpm just pulling away in mud on 35 inch simex, so good luck with stupid tyres if you've ignored us lot who have been there and done that
why post up for advise from us lot who have spent thousands of manhours on our land rovers to make them unstopable/unbreakable
only for you to go and ignore us :roll:
was it just to get attention ?
sorry but i really dont get you here its rediculous
dan
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With those humungous wheels & tyres I hope steveo doesn't try to drive any Kent lanes, cos he WILL get stuck under our loverly low branches. Still it will be fun pulling him out.
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Dan,
Like you, I've had enough of him asking for advice then when someone suggests something he changes the goal posts. There's no point in asking for advice if you've got it fixed in your head what you're going to do, no matter what other people try to suggest.
It's just a waste of everyones time and effort and I for one feel I've wasted enough time on him.
Good luck with what ever you do Steveo, sorry to say you'll get no more info from me.
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steveio
if you are genuine about this
try some of the threads from this forums archive.....
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/
but for gods sake dont post there !!!
or you will be flamed!! and not in a polite british way !!
mike
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i think the guys on pirate would make it painful lol
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sounds like an invite . top conversion on there to. c u soon lads
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remember when 35/12.5/16 were first mention i remember talking to simon buck from devon 4x4 at the time about it but now there fairly widly use . also with over half of the money to spend now i just need every little thing that might be a problem . i can see a few areas myself but it like a disease for bigger wheels not happy until done that thats all. being young does give u as much inside strains on comp trucks thats the main stopping block in project movement.like u all say it could end in a ebay giveaway hence alot of research first and truck testing in stages not all in one go so to speak . remember the saying cut once but measure twice before.
what would really help as well is where and hold much u got bits u need from.
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Dan,
Like you, I've had enough of him asking for advice then when someone suggests something he changes the goal posts. There's no point in asking for advice if you've got it fixed in your head what you're going to do, no matter what other people try to suggest.
It's just a waste of everyones time and effort and I for one feel I've wasted enough time on him.
Good luck with what ever you do Steveo, sorry to say you'll get no more info from me.
ditto budgie
dan out :wink:
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Dan, i hoped you had reingnited this post!!!
Steveo where are the pictures of your truck??
i thought you would have the big tyres on by now!!!!
come on ya wuss lol
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nope, fed up with talking to a brick wall bulli
not only this thread but others aswel
so i suddenly cant be botherd
ill carry on getting my calcs right for my trayback :roll:
dan
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nope, fed up with talking to a brick wall bulli
not only this thread but others aswel
so i suddenly cant be botherd
ill carry on getting my calcs right for my trayback :roll:
dan
funny that i was going to post a pic of a brick wall the other day, on this thread .
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As far as big tyres goes:
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/rollazuki/tvdoooitvv4.gif)
Rolla :wink:
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tyres on there well there not 37 yet . a mate what to see how good 265s where so we have swaped for abit. i ll need to sell them to put the money towards the new ones also all the spark system is being rebuilt for maxium effect at the monent. photos soon. few other things on there first to . i ll keep u posted
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cant be bothered with this thread. i'll await the pics...if they come. :lol:
if you're guna show off, then show off and write about it. dont ask about it if you're guna go 1 better anyway...if it is 1 better at all ???? hope it goes well for ya! :wink: 8)
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tyres on there well there not 37 yet . a mate what to see how good 265s where so we have swaped for abit. i ll need to sell them to put the money towards the new ones also all the spark system is being rebuilt for maxium effect at the monent. photos soon. few other things on there first to . i ll keep u posted
265's?
There tiny :lol: :lol: :lol:
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tyres on there well there not 37 yet . a mate what to see how good 265s where so we have swaped for abit. i ll need to sell them to put the money towards the new ones also all the spark system is being rebuilt for maxium effect at the monent. photos soon. few other things on there first to . i ll keep u posted
265's?
There tiny :lol: :lol: :lol:
now ur saying 265s r too small why do u think im going bigger in stages
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As far as big tyres goes:
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/rollazuki/tvdoooitvv4.gif)
Rolla :wink:
at least somebody has an idea to for the future
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http://www.lrm.co.uk/archive/modified%20vehicles/orangesquash.htm
just read this first before anybody else says anything plz.
and yes the archs r abit of a mess still sum thing to work on but read the money part carefully.
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OK I've lost where this is going now! We've got 2 threads going and both titles keep changing, and echoing some earlier comments some of your posts are a bit tricky to decipher Steveo! Less txt spk pls and a quick re-read before hitting "submit"!!!!
I'm fairly new on here myself and I have found everyone to be incredibly helpful, sure, you'll get some differences in opinions and sometimes a little factor can make a big difference...for example 2 people fit 2 identical lift kits and tyres to a vehicle but the fact that they are using different wheels with different offsets means someone experiences one set of challenges, the other person a different set.
Can we just roll the clock back to the beginning again! What exactly are you trying to achieve, is it off-road performance in one specific area, are you just trying to build something that has it's focus on looks, or are you after a useable everyday vehicle?
What's the deal with the 265s? Are you lending them to someone to try, or are you borrowing them to try? Are they the same 265s listed in your modifications signature?
I read the article on the orange disco, sure as hell turns heads, however if it's bending suspension components and has a "quick release" diff to drain out all the bits of mashed metal, it's going to be pretty hopeless off road when broken compared to a standard Disco with side steps and road tyres that is still driving! But will sure as hell turn some heads up the high street that the standard Disco never will!
However whether all those broken halfshafts, trashed diffs and bent radius arms fit in with your "always drive the truck home" motto is probably up for debate!
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dont get me wrong 265 on a disco great but just want that extra bit of clearence here and there. plus they aint aggressive as the one i had before.
had 265 for 2 years now and not going use them down to the ilegal time . i always sell them before. they help when u sell them then so u only have to put half the money to put towards better wellies.
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is this what you're trying to do?
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/beatmasterdave/discocagesnorkel.jpg)
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is that how you drive? :lol: :lol:
yeah, im not impressed with the yellow one i shoved up here either. 8)
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is this what you're trying to do?
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j139/beatmasterdave/discocagesnorkel.jpg)
looks the about right but i ll have fixed long travel springs instead and a bit less metal work around the body. r the tyres 36s they look it
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So what size tyres are going on this Discovery then?
37" or 265's?
Thats quite a difference
39" tyres are the future, I've seen it
(http://www.devon4x4.com/galleryimages/713850d6a4d14298534f04ae63760d86.JPG)
I got to have alittle drive too, what a laugh!
The hardest part was getting in :lol:
(http://www.devon4x4.com/galleryimages/d110635c6671b15efafae2173fc72fd1.JPG)
Yee haa!!
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900r16 but only had it around the yard havent changed any of the running gear. electronic system is hold me back at the moment keep u posted
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just a few photo of one done already.
heres the spec list
FEATURED IN TOTAL OFF ROAD MAG OCT 06)
1987 3.5 V8
Classic Professionally Bobtailed Rangerover
with every extra & 2 Winches
WITH MOT!!
Right here goes all the bits:-
RECENT SUPER SWAMPERS TLS BOGGER 37 X 13 X 15
Raised Air Intake
All Breathers Raised
Twin Shockers all round (Pro Comps)
4" Pro Comp Suspension Lift
3" Body Lift
Cranked Radius Arms - Front & Rear
Rear Dislocation Cones
Harden Shafts
Up-rated CV's
Custom Built Low Ratio Transfer Box
Extended Brake Hoses
Front Milemarker Hydralic Winch
Rear Milemarker electric winch
Custom Built Front & Rear Bumpers with additional recovery points
Full Poly-Bush Kit
Rally Spec Internal Fuel Tank
2 x 4 Point Harnesses to front
1 x 3 Point Harness to rear
Kenlowe Electric Fan
Up-rated Discs & Calipers
Up-rated Braking System
Diff Guards
Double Jointed Prop-Shaft
Wheel Spacers
Heavy Duty Shock Absorber Turretts
Wide angle yokes with double carden joints
Chequer plate flooring
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looks great.... wheres urs?
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Any one of us could find pics and post them here!! what has that got to do with the price of bread???
YOU are talking the big talk about what YOU are doing to your machine, then you post pics of someone elses machine?? [Edited]?
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round of applause to some 1 who can copy & paste :lol::lol::lol:
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round of applause to some 1 who can copy & paste :lol::lol::lol:
just showing what it could looklike ideas plz not digs ull need a spade to get u out....
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round of applause to some 1 who can copy & paste :lol::lol::lol:
just showing what it could looklike ideas plz not digs ull need a spade to get u out....
Na mate,
I manage quite fine with what i have & i know how to drive it & it goes more places than some specced up trucks,
If you stopped talking BS i might actually belive some o the things you are saying but at the moment im with the others.....................
Slightly bored :lol: :lol: :lol:
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round of applause to some 1 who can copy & paste :lol::lol::lol:
just showing what it could looklike ideas plz not digs ull need a spade to get u out....
_Personally, I hope you don't fit ANYTHING ELSE to your motor...
There will be no room for any replies to your threads...your signature bit is just ssoooooooooooooooooooo
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Here,s a pic of mine, with good ol' mom & pops about to get into my Stretched and lifted Disco.
(http://www.baileyfamilypage.com/images/uploads/img_1462_snow_bus.jpg)
ha ha
wizard
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@Wizard, I think your front and rear axle needs to be spaced out more !!!
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ROAR :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nasty overhang on your Disco Wizard :wink:
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stevio
FRIENDLY ADVICE
your being laughed at !!
your posts are like some crazy new spam.everyone is bitching at you but you persist in a way that will not help you.
eventualy a moderator will get fed-up and lock or delete the thread.
get sensible mate.
there are a lot of people here who probably wont even reply to your threads (even if they can help) .
There is an abundance of knowledge here and some experienced people i promise you.
some ideas for you......
putting massive tyres under a disco is not impossible......
with the right spring and body lift they will fit......
cut the outer bodyshell and fit some kind of arches will help it articulate a bit...
a 36 inch tyre is exactly the same size as a disco inner arch....
a 38 inch tyre fully inflated weighs nearly the same as 2 standard wheels and will not fit into the inner arch which will result in loss of articulation...
because of the weight and size of the tyres you will break cv joints..halfshafts..diffs..propshafts and probably rip axle mounting points off...
now you may be able to get a cheap set of tyres and get it lifted cheaply but it will break things straight away....
breaking things will cost you money to replace them.....then you decide to either replace them with stock items or aftermarket items...this is where the money comes in....you cannot put massive tyres on the disco and stay within a cheap budget unless you intend to leave it on the drive as a decoration....
how much do you have to spend ???????
mike
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afink he was deprived of a monster truck toy when he was younger
so now he just wants to forfill his dream of a monster truck
no
no
you just like big shiney wheels
go get a saxo and fit some 19 inch ally's wont have any problems then
no bust cv's from just turning into your drive
no snapped half shafts when pulling up onto the kerb
and youll actualy be able to get your other half in with out carrying step ladders
stop with this stupid fantasy :roll:
everyone is bored of it, or just go bore someone else on another forum, cos believe me, we are being very pollite about this, so be thankfull for the mud club rules
go onto pirate and post there, they will rip your head off
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I love this thread!!
I've not laughed so much since my Grandad's wooden leg got woodworm!!
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I love this thread!!
I've not laughed so much since my Grandad's wooden leg got woodworm!!
=D> =D> =D> omg thats made my day
it cracked me up lmao hahaha
omg
got to end the day on a high
chuckling off to bed
dan
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thats bobtail cost £15000+ to build and is on ebay for £4000, go buy it. it will save you a fortune :wink:
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why
looks rubbish IMO
afink id rather a bright pink suzuki than had that range rover
its but ugly
steve ( greeni ) post up a pic of kevs chevvy with its boggers on please :roll:
show them a proper monster truck
cos thats all he wants to do, play monster trucks
mines bigger and better than yours :roll:
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thats bobtail cost £15000+ to build and is on ebay for £4000, go buy it. it will save you a fortune :wink:
nice but aint big enough inside for my everyday use
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Can i say something :lol: :lol: :lol: Naa <edit> (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=42831) it :lol: :lol: Ive <edit> (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=42831) my pants :lol: :lol: :lol: Have'nt read a thread like this in a longtime :lol:
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this thread gets funnier and funnier, I thought you had a monster Disco but then I looked at your pictures and saw it was fairly run of the mill. Don't says its less standard than my Disco cause I don't care :lol:
what exhaust have you got then as some shots in your gallery show 4 exhausts at the rear with so much over hang they'd catch when you off roaded, but its ok at they passed the MOT :lol: and then you have that picture thats been attached above?
I've gotta to be honest - if your sig was shorter then this thread would have been obly 4 pages long :lol: :lol:
you gotta be sensible and call it a day and admit defeat 8)
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Jeez guys, Ive been off the site for the weekend, marshalling for the Scorp challenge, and I come back expecting to see some flexed up pics with the 37's on....
Where are they? Cmon, youve had enough time..... :lol:
Rolla
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what exhaust have you got then as some shots in your gallery show 4 exhausts at the rear with so much over hang they'd catch when you off roaded, but its ok at they passed the MOT Laughing and then you have that picture thats been attached above?
Hang on ... the pics of the 4 exhausts .... are of my Discovery!?!?
<baffled>
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what exhaust have you got then as some shots in your gallery show 4 exhausts at the rear with so much over hang they'd catch when you off roaded, but its ok at they passed the MOT Laughing and then you have that picture thats been attached above?
Hang on ... the pics of the 4 exhausts .... are of my Discovery!?!?
<baffled>
neil yes it is yours. u gave me the idea for mine. some what to see a photo of twin monza . couldnt find the je page with them on.
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Ah :)
:lol:
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steve ( greeni ) post up a pic of kevs chevvy with its boggers on please :roll:
show them a proper monster truck
cos thats all he wants to do, play monster trucks
mines bigger and better than yours :roll:
Here you are !!! http://picasaweb.google.com/letsoffroad/KevSChevy/photo#5034799142239560626
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Watch they words, folks. :wink:
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
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Watch they words, folks. :wink:
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
Pardon ? What's that mean ???
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:lol:
It means there were a few transgressions regarding swearing further back in the thread - panic ye not!
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It means someones used naughty words or has tried to bypass the naughty word filter. :wink:
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
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hey we all do it in the dirt so its going to have a few dirty words
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Eeyore im guilty
but this man is really taking the biscuit :roll:
youve got to end this slagging match soon lads
or are you leaving it running for your own personal amusement :lol:
because this is the best comedy ive ever seen on here :roll:
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just bee wheesht
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Eeyore im guilty
Pah, no more than many! :wink:
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
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Eeyore im guilty
Pah, no more than many! :wink:
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
so i take it you like the amusement :tongue:
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{cue comedy sounds of someone trying to hide the popcorn}
Naaaaaaah
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{cue comedy sounds of someone trying to hide the popcorn}
Naaaaaaah
neil you overgrown kid
dew was more responsable than you :lol: :lol: :lol:
can a make a request ?
if we have any awards this year
can this be the most funnies thread winner by a unamious decision ?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
<chuckles>
dan :lol:
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lets get back on topic please :twisted:
i think steveo is aiming too low, why not go for 40" tyres, i'm sure the road handling wont be affected anymore than when i had 31" tyres fitted
and those weekly trips my missus does to iceland would be a sinch, or she could just goto tesco's i suppose :?:
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i think steveo is aiming too low, why not go for 40" tyres, i'm sure the road handling wont be affected anymore than when i had 31" tyres fitted
40"? Pah. Had 41"s on the 101. Maybe that was why it wouldn't do more than 50mph. Or it could have been the weight of course.
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35s club hate 37s anybody on 36s to equal this debate out
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debate :?: :?:
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Thick skinned or just, no forget it i'll sit this one out! :lol:
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while i may have been guilty of perpetuating this thread its just way, way too tedious now!!
Steve o get on with it, show us how kool your truck can be.....as Rolla said this thread is worthless without pictures.
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if you dont wanna break stuff on your every day motor but wanna play on pay n play sites keep ur disco, go out buy a £500 rangie spend £500 on toys for it (lift / MT's) etc etc , get a trailer and take it to offroad sites and have some fun
as for the 38" tyres i personally cant see the point, but fair play to you if you do it, and would be nice to see some pics of progress with your work!
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900r16 aint the answer its on 1 and half inches higher with a 2 inch lift . 2 inch body lift next keep u posted aint going to be a 5 minute job.
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I'm sorry but the funniest topic I've seen this year was on another forum and was about picolax. This one is boardering on pathetic at times [-X (and that is not due the actions of any single person), plus its not just the same when dan and mike are not haveing a go at each other.
Steve its interesting that you post pictures of that bobtailed RRC on 37s, noticed the wheel archs? You are going to have to accept compromise, be it trimming the bodywork, relativerly extreme running gear modifications or just instead making do with smaller tyres than you want. Somethings will enevitably be compromised by the choices you make.
I agree james in that fun is not necisserily proportional to the size of your tyres or any other part of the anatomy for that matter. However £500 for an old RRC sound like day light robbery :shock:
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i had more fun on 235 grizzlys than ive ever had with my simex :wink:
fitted simex...comprimies was....they eat diffs....solution ARB lockers
lockers eat shafts...solution, unbreakable shafts
front locker and being dum breaks cv's solution, unbreakable cv's
1k on tyres
1k on diffs
nearly 600 on shafts
500 on cv's
3100 just to have 35 inch tyres
and thats no 37's that will rip axle mounts off, snap propshafts
eat bushes :roll:
sorry just 35s are alot more sensable
clbarclay....its about time me and mike had another ding dong....its wel over due :lol:
oooo mikkeeeee :evil: :evil:
ding dong :P
dan
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i had more fun on 235 grizzlys than ive ever had with my simex :wink:
fitted simex...comprimies was....they eat diffs....solution ARB lockers
lockers eat shafts...solution, unbreakable shafts
front locker and being dum breaks cv's solution, unbreakable cv's
1k on tyres
1k on diffs
nearly 600 on shafts
500 on cv's
3100 just to have 35 inch tyres
and thats no 37's that will rip axle mounts off, snap propshafts
eat bushes :roll:
sorry just 35s are alot more sensable
clbarclay....its about time me and mike had another ding dong....its wel over due :lol:
oooo mikkeeeee :evil: :evil:
ding dong :P
dan
Pffffft
i manage to go places that those with 35's & all that jazz manage & mine is on 33's has 1 locker & a pair of 2nd hand HD shafts
Its all down to the driver not the truck,
Toys help but there aint no point in havin all the gear but no idea
P.s i read the thread on picolax,
then checked out if i could buy some from ebay
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lmao i looked aswel :lol:
driver
pfft
it wasnt about going far, it was to get on a level pegging with others
std diffs and 31 inch grizzlys vs simex, lockers :roll:
cmon :P
altho i had much more fun back then :cry:
dan
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Thats better, though I don't think I will ever accept food or drink from mike now.
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he's just jealous cos ive got a milk float really
and he know's that itll be me dragging his heavy ass around at the muddy trukkers next year :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
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My dad's off roaders got 60" on the front & 72" on the rear ...... imagine what they'd look like on ya Disco ? :wink: :roll: :twisted: :twisted: :lol:
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/steve_ray/JohnDeere.jpg)
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rubbish and pointless be serious . beside ud just fit ancondas least it would do over 24mph
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rubbish and pointless be serious . beside ud just fit ancondas least it would do over 24mph
lmao
you obviously dont no modern tractor units then do you :roll:
they'll do 24mp with 20 tonne hanging off the back
and still go faster :roll:
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as danny said and from experince a tractor will do 30mph with a fully loaded silage trailer on the back
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and a fastrac does 45mph think another make does aswell. im an ex farmboy remember .but it aint a 4x4 is it anyway first pic below
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where is this thread going, apart from the dogs :?:
Its the same with the who's got bigger wellys thread:
http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=50354&highlight=
I just don't get it, Steve 4 valve 8 injectors - you do some weird but almost funny threads but i think they are now drawing to a close because i don't see the seriousness of them and your just seaching the internet for 4x4's with large tyres. What is the facsionasion (spelt wrong i know!) with large tyred 4x4's cause these 2 threads are very simular.
Can we lock em, please, i'll ask ever so nicely !!
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where is this thread going, apart from the dogs :?:
Its the same with the who's got bigger wellys thread:
http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=50354&highlight=
I just don't get it, Steve 4 valve 8 injectors - you do some weird but almost funny threads but i think they are now drawing to a close because i don't see the seriousness of them and your just seaching the internet for 4x4's with large tyres. What is the facsionasion (spelt wrong i know!) with large tyred 4x4's cause these 2 threads are very simular.
Can we lock em, please, i'll ask ever so nicely !!
the other thread is for the jokers in the pack.
laugh at whatever first thread read it ull see
this is the serious one
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where is this thread going, apart from the dogs :?:
Its the same with the who's got bigger wellys thread:
http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=50354&highlight=
I just don't get it, Steve 4 valve 8 injectors - you do some weird but almost funny threads but i think they are now drawing to a close because i don't see the seriousness of them and your just seaching the internet for 4x4's with large tyres. What is the facsionasion (spelt wrong i know!) with large tyred 4x4's cause these 2 threads are very simular.
Can we lock em, please, i'll ask ever so nicely !!
the other thread is for the jokers in the pack.
laugh at whatever first thread read it ull see
this is the serious one
serious...lmfao !
how can this be serious when you change the goal post's every day :roll:
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well wot do u think of the first pic then ... uve been waittin havent u.
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well wot do u think of the first pic then ... uve been waittin havent u.
not really no, i cba with it no more
felt like been speaking to a brick wall on every single comment :roll:
but i havent seen the pics, i will have a look
but i stand my my words
its pointless
35 and the line ends
any bigger and its a animal and isnt fit for the road as something will break, you will spend lots of time on your side
and it wont get yo work the following morning
dan
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and a fastrac does 45mph think another make does aswell. im an ex farmboy remember .but it aint a 4x4 is it anyway first pic below
have you not got a digital camera..........
looks like you took a picture of a picture in tor with your mobile phone !!
mike
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thats it i have had enough of this!!!!from what i can make out in your box brownie picture,i can only see suspention and axel ect not tyres and i thought thats what we were getting at or am i confused,yes i think i am this is becoming highly amusing for me especially when you get advice and tips and just ignore them and move the goal posts almost hourly :twisted: :twisted:
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what an idiot. ill just keep laughing with dan and most others here LOL
pmsl :lol:
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I'm not being funny, but I think this steveo chap is probably only about 9 years old, after reading all his posts........Go easy on him
:troll:
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:D
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The next big thing is to have road tyres! every thing else has been done. :lol:
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The next big thing is to have road tyres! every thing else has been done. :lol:
I dis-agree
I believe the next big thing will be racing slicks
The futures bright, the futures stuck
:lol:
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i think it will be lowering kits for disco,s so they drag the floor :twisted:
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The next big thing is to have road tyres! every thing else has been done. :lol:
I dis-agree
I believe the next big thing will be racing slicks
The futures bright, the futures stuck
:lol:
haha, lmfao
oh my days jake that did crack me up
you got any slicks in stock ?
simex extreme slicks id prefere ?
and also, id like them in a stupid size so i can snap everything on my land rover
55" perhaps ??
and looking at that photo, them tyres look too familiar
look like simex to me :roll:
has some one been pinching pictures again :roll: :roll:
dan
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As with the other thread, if people can't restrain themselves from personal insults on other members, it'll be locked.
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dont meen to sound rude, but this should have been locked a long time ago
the poster is a idiot :roll:
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dont meen to sound rude, but this should have been locked a long time ago
the poster is a idiot :roll:
Well I did warn you.
Whatever you think of other members, this is not the place for personal attacks. If you don't like other people's points of views, then don't read their threads.
Hence I'm locking the thread.