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Vehicle & Technical => Series Land Rovers => Topic started by: ian_s on March 18, 2006, 20:16:02

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: ian_s on March 18, 2006, 20:16:02

i have finally aquired a 200tdi engine, from a defender 110, and I know some people here have done this conversion. so i have a few questions

1: will the standard series3 radiator do? mine is in good condition, and was re cored not long ago.

2: will it go straight on my engine mounts?

3: i beleive it bolts straight to the series3 gearbox, but what clutch does it use?

4: what the *&$% am i gonna do for an exhaust?


Any other advice is also welcomed
cheers
Ian

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: bezzabsa on March 18, 2006, 20:21:19

exhaust id say a 90 Tdi one SHOULD fit.. radiator...  go for a 90 one again as these seem larger

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: muddy_90 on March 18, 2006, 20:30:03

try http://www.ttrovers.com/ the bloke there put a 200tdi in his series 2a

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on March 18, 2006, 22:35:10

try waking up stanton boy - he's done it and is a mine of information

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: ian_s on March 19, 2006, 21:04:50

i think its gonna be a case of try and fit it, then see what happens

should be fun, anyways

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: Dr Neil on March 20, 2006, 20:17:03

the engine will bolt straight onto the series bell housing after you have removed one o the studs on the engine. the engine mounts off the series bolt straight onto the tdi. The un starts when it comes to the radiator and exhaust.I will give Stanton boy a wake up call and get him to PM you the details as i work with him every day!!

hope this helps Neil :)

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: bezzabsa on March 20, 2006, 20:45:09

WOW its that easy to fit a 200 into a series  :shock:
was expecting a hell of a lot more than that..so really main stumbling points are exhaust and rad.. well exhaust is a simple (ish ) fix, and i presume a 90 td rad would do the job, may have to 90 the front end tho'

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: Dr Neil on March 20, 2006, 20:56:06

Stanton boy kept the origional series front,he fitted the disco rad and intercooler. other than that it was just sorting out the electrics and plumbing!!
When we did his we took the standard diesel engine out and fitted the 200tdi lump in in one night, it was the other bits that took the time!! If i remember correctly he used the series pressure plate and the disco friction plate, though i could be wrong :)

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: ian_s on March 20, 2006, 22:20:45

thanks neil, i remember talking to Chris about this a while ago when i bought a diff off him. his is slightly different cos it were a disco engine, whereas i have a defender one. but the theory is the same.

someone might be getting me parts of the exhaust off a 90 200tdi, which i can cut and shut to make it fit.
the worst part is the gearbox, as mine went titsup today. at least it happened before i put it all back together with the new engine

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: cstokes on March 21, 2006, 18:59:45

Defender engine is an easier to fit than a disco engine, because of the exhaust, but that is all.  All of the other fittings, intercooler, radiator, gearbox mountings and engine mountings are the exact same procedure for both the disco and the defender engine.

I have a word document that i have compiled, if you want a copy pm me your email address and i will send it to you.

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: extreme90 on March 25, 2006, 22:27:59

mite be missing something here, but you need a tdi rad, for the intercooler,
i would have thought that it would be easyier for you to convert it to a  defender front, more room for the rad then
that is what i did when i fitted a 200tdi into a friends series, which incidently some one on this forum owns now, just havent seen it around yet  :(  
just to help out...its a big green land rover  :P

with a 200tdi in..not many around so should narrow it down a bit  :P

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: cstokes on March 25, 2006, 23:04:15

The reason that i wanted to keep the series front is that i actually prefer it to the defender front, but for no other reason.  Like you say it would fit easier if you convert to a defendr front, but this has other implications, like by series has a winch onn the front which is set nicely between the front wings. If i had converted to a defender front then i would have to mount the winch further forward and that would ruin the excellent approch angle offered by a series landrover.

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: extreme90 on March 25, 2006, 23:18:51

yes good point, errm headache time then lol, but its a land rover, theres a way around anything

Title: 200tdi into a series3
Post by: ian_s on March 27, 2006, 10:42:06

there is plenty of room for the 200tdi radiator in with the standard series front end
if you look at a tdi 90 the cowling for the fan is about a foot deep.
i'm with StantonBoy on the frontend, i much prefer the look of the series3 compared to a 90.
I have been told that i might be able to keep the standard series 3 rad, but i would have to find an intercooler to fit in a different place, or i can fit the 110 rad and cooler unit.

the engine change is on hold for now as some parts are broken on it